The problem with Amari

[Shcritters]

Here we sit in week 2 and Amari is at 4 catches for 33 yards, going into the 4th quarter. I'm expecting fantasy greatness from him... and it isn't happening yet.

So here's my theory. My theory is that there isn't actually something wrong with him... but rather that there are just too many offensive weapons on the Raiders and they don't have to force feed him like a Julio, OBJ, or Antonio Brown.

Thoughts?

[Raymond1974]

The problem is that Derrick Carr loves Crabtree! It's so frustrating! I thought cooper would be a PPR beast!

[onetwothree]

They were playing the Jets and the game got out of hand pretty quickly. That's all.

Antonio Brown was sitting at 3 catches into the 4th. It happens.

[Cameron Giles]

Correct. The Raiders never feel obligated to force feed Cooper, and they shouldn't. Cooper will still have big games though.

[Phaded]

I have said it before and I am going to say it again.

Crabtree is the better receiver.
They complement eachother well; but Cooper has always been overvalued by the fantasy community.

Hell, I am a Raider fan and even I sold him last year. The problem is that the best case scenario has been baked into his cost.

[flyersfan1981]

I have said it before and I am going to say it again.

Crabtree is the better receiver.
They complement eachother well; but Cooper has always been overvalued by the fantasy community.

Hell, I am a Raider fan and even I sold him last year. The problem is that the best case scenario has been baked into his cost.

Can we just stop the thread here?

[Raymond1974]

I think wth more targets cooper can prove his worth. He has the talent to be a great dynasty WR imo

[flyersfan1981]

I think wth more targets cooper can prove his worth. He has the talent to be a great dynasty WR imo

But what is this based on? Why can't he be great with the targets he is already getting? You seem to basically be advocating that making him a "volume" receiver automatically validates his overinflated value.

Is it just possible that Carr trusts Crabtree more because he has earned his trust, something Cooper hasn't done yet (and didn't help himself last week or today with another bad drop)?

[Friction]

I have Coop and Crabby on the same team and i feel far more comfortable starting the latter. It usually works since i do not like starting them both unless i think it will be an absolute shoot out. I wont trade Crabs since his market value is pretty low and I habe held Coop without getting skme of the deals I see him involved in on here.

[Raymond1974]

who do you know that's "great" with getting four targets in a game? i don't care who you are you have to thrown to inorder to put up Decent numbers,especially a guy like cooper who won't ever be a Touchdown monster.

[flyersfan1981]

who do you know that's "great" with getting four targets in a game? i don't care who you are you have to thrown to inorder to put up Decent numbers,especially a guy like cooper who won't ever be a Touchdown monster.

Bull!

Cooper averaged just over 8 targets/game for his first two seasons and has 18 (9 per) thru two games. He is getting targeted...in fact he had 13 last week and managed a whopping 62 yards on catching only 5 of them.

TY, Julio, Michael Thomas, Baldwin, Davante, and Cooks all had WR1 seasons last year with under 9 targets per game (which is what Cooper has been getting his first two years, and thru two games this year).

Edit...as I am watching this game now, Julio has 4 catches for 96 yards on 5 targets.

[Raymond1974]

he scored last week and put up 17 points in MFL. With more targets he'll put up numbers.

[Phaded]

he scored last week and put up 17 points in MFL. With more targets he'll put up numbers.

If he wants more targets he should:

a) Get open more
b) Drop less
c) Do more with what he does get
d) Not get outplayed by Crabtree

Crab only had 1 more target in this game and dramatically outperformed Coop.

[flyersfan1981]

he scored last week and put up 17 points in MFL. With more targets he'll put up numbers.

You can say that about every single WR though...Eric Decker is going to show he is a Top 5 dynasty player this year, all he needs is 180 targets!

Come on...listen to Phaded! He is a great poster with tons of knowledge and he knows how to keep it real with his own squad.

[slaughterrt]

How many targets is it gonna take to make Treadwell a great WR?

But seriously, I would rather have Crabtree at his cost than Cooper at his. Hell, I would probably rather have Crabtree over Cooper at the same cost unless I was in a total rebuild or acquiring to flip them.