I wouldn't say there's a statistical benchmark that you can use effectively. What I like to see is increased useage, week to week. To me, this shows that there is a building trust between the QB and WR. If the QB is looking for the WR when the bleep hits the fan, and giving him opportunities to make plays, then I think this shows that the QB has faith in the WR.
Now I suppose this doesn't translate in the WR becoming a stud. However, I think that the relationship between the QB and the WR is an integral part of the WR becoming successful.
Rookie benchmarks for stardom/usefulness
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Re: Rookie benchmarks for stardom/usefulness
"okay benchmark"?
Terrible benchmark, because they're record breaking stats for a WR in his first few years.
You need to set the bar a lot lower.
Seems a bunch of new dynasty owners in here with not much historical experience except maybe the 2014 draft,
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I was going to respond in the same manner. Agree with this thought.Reljac wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:57 amAgree with Cameron GilesCameron Giles wrote: ↑Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:48 pm For WR's, I don't really set statistical benchmarks for rookie production. It's more about certain skills I look for/prefer. You could have a 500 yard season and still flashed enough as a rookie.
I'd say be careful with benchmarks based on WR rookie years. Need to pay more attention to how they do it. You'd miss out on some great players on yards or reception benchmarks.
Antonio Brown 16r 167yds as a rookie
Calvin Johnson 48r 758yds as a rookie
Terrell Owens 35r 520yds as a rookie
Chad 'Ocho Cinco' Johnson 28r 329yds as a rookie
Reggie Wayne 27r 345 yds
Vincent Jackson 3r 59yds
Fitzgerald 58r 780yds
Also add Jordy to that list
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I think DT, Brandon Marshall, roddy white too. Need to check that but pretty sure.
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Definitely Roddy white, he was on my mind, but I totally blanked on his name when I was typing up the list.
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Re: Rookie benchmarks for stardom/usefulness
Eh....I think it was a joke.Ryantacular wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:57 am"okay benchmark"?
Terrible benchmark, because they're record breaking stats for a WR in his first few years.
You need to set the bar a lot lower.
Seems a bunch of new dynasty owners in here with not much historical experience except maybe the 2014 draft,
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Looking for a specific number might not be the best way to approach it. Maybe look at it from the opposite end and find the bare minimum guys do in their rookie seasons (excluding injuries) before going on to be stars. Like Treadwell getting just the 1 catch is not a good sign. Need context so you might be better off looking at something like reception perception and if these guys are winning on their routes.
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Michael Clayton totaled 80 receptions for 1,193 yards and 7 touchdowns in his rookie year for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2004. Is that the kind of benchmark you were looking for? As Benjamin Disraeli once said, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics".
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You're right lol. Sorry. I stopped readin after I read that aj green benchmark part. If I would have read the rest I would have been able to tell.Neight wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:52 amEh....I think it was a joke.Ryantacular wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:57 am"okay benchmark"?
Terrible benchmark, because they're record breaking stats for a WR in his first few years.
You need to set the bar a lot lower.
Seems a bunch of new dynasty owners in here with not much historical experience except maybe the 2014 draft,
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