Matt Jones a Colt

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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:25 pm

ninotoreS wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:06 pm For the record, because I was simply curious, number of times waived before 'breaking out' statistically (that judgment is subjective, tho):

Forsett - 3 (2 if we consider his early-career work with Seattle as a breakout)
Lewis - 2
Woodhead - 1
T. West - 1 (er, do we actually count any of his seasons thus far as a legit breakout?)
Quizz - 1 (0 if his two 50 reception seasons in Atlanta count as a breakout in full-ppr)
Latavius - 0
Blount - 0
Hightower - 0 (Hightower's first two years in the league were quite productive)
I don't think West or Rodgers counts. There's no real science to it though. It's just a bunch of random RB's. A lot of things can contribute.

Jones has opportunity working for him, since Gore is near the end of his rope. But, it's not like beating out Rob Kelley was any more of a task. Aside from that, the Colts have a terrible offensive line and their QB has no timetable for his return. So, the situation isn't as awesome as it may seem.

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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby ninotoreS » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:14 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:39 pm All the rbs listed as breaking out after cut had college dominator ratings in the 70th percentile or higher. Jonathan Williams sports a 44th percentile dominator rating. Matt Jones 27th percentile.
Interesting. But not true for Forsett, is it? He was the lesser half of a timeshare with Marshawn Lynch his first two collegiate seasons. Maybe you're allowing calculation for a single season? Still wouldn't help Williams or Jones, of course.
Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:25 pm I don't think West or Rodgers counts. There's no real science to it though. It's just a bunch of random RB's. A lot of things can contribute.
Maybe it would be better to use PFF grade instead of stats. Quizz only made five starts last year and so his stat totals weren't eye-popping, but PFF graded him the 11th best half-back last season on the basis of those weeks. A breakout for him in that sense. West was the 15th best graded, so by that measurement he broke out, too.
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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby ascherb » Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:27 pm

No one is saying he's going to Canton, but he's an intruiging player because he clearly has talent and he landed in about the most ideal landing spot he realistically could.

Lol at saying "well except for all his good runs, his YPC wasn't good."
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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby Dr.Graffin » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:25 pm

Used 10% of my yearly FAAB budget to get him and no one else bid..lol.. :wall:

Still happy to have him. Great situation and I agree his fumbling problems are blown out of proportion. He'll get a shot to show what he can do this year.
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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby Never Veto1 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:02 pm

DLF3000 wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:25 am Together, Jones and Mack have a real shot to break the NFL team record for most fumbles by running backs.

If not for Luck (who is good but overrated), this organization and its incompetent leadership would easily qualify as a dumpster fire.
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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:22 pm

Never Veto wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:02 pm
DLF3000 wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:25 am Together, Jones and Mack have a real shot to break the NFL team record for most fumbles by running backs.

If not for Luck (who is good but overrated), this organization and its incompetent leadership would easily qualify as a dumpster fire.
If it wasn't for Andrew Luck the Colts would be the worst team in football.
I was gonna say we would still be better than the Jets, but sadly that's not true. We have Hilton as a difference maker and that's it. At least the Jets have 2 game-changers on their D-line. But yeah, we have some SORRY rosters.
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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby DynastyDog » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:55 am

Would it be worth picking Jones up and dropping Spencer Ware. Jones is on the WW and I am afraid Ware will not be able to come back from this injury. I was lucky enough to grab Hunt in the 3rd Round of the Rookie Draft this year. I am not sure there will be a RB debate going forward after Hunts performance last night.

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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby Sterling Archer » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:25 am

jcc6fd wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:20 am Gruden just likes to arbitrarily scapegoat players and ruin their careers.
Haha, what? Where's the tinfoil hat emoji?

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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby onetwothree » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:01 am

Sterling Archer wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:25 am
jcc6fd wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:20 am Gruden just likes to arbitrarily scapegoat players and ruin their careers.
Haha, what? Where's the tinfoil hat emoji?
Seems like it's Doctson's turn to get that treatment.

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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby jcc6fd » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:12 am

onetwothree wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:01 am
Sterling Archer wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:25 am
jcc6fd wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:20 am Gruden just likes to arbitrarily scapegoat players and ruin their careers.
Haha, what? Where's the tinfoil hat emoji?
Seems like it's Doctson's turn to get that treatment.
Exactly. You can make fun until it happens to your guy undeservingly. If Hunt had been playing for Gruden last night he would have been benched after his first carry.
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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby DLF3000 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:36 am

Well, that was fun while it lasted... I guess? Smells like he's done.
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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby REPTAR » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:12 am

Just glad he won't get in Mack's way now. Imagine Jones should resurface somewhere for a look.

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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby Rockytop85 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:36 am

The Rotoworld blurb says the Bears also tried to claim him.

Bills, maybe?
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Re: Matt Jones a Colt

Postby thebeast » Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:34 am

So how many RBs that have been outright cut twice turn into anything? There is nothing to see here. Everyone should have learned with CMike. I wouldn't waste waiver position or FAAB on fools gold.


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