Nathan Peterman HYPE!!!

[Ice]

The team barely made the playoffs at 9-7. They also went 5-2 in one score games and had a -57 point differential. That screams regression. Their defense was average against the pass and bad against the run. The offense was so bad that it got Dennison fired. I'm glad you like Daboll, but he's had a few runs as an OC in the NFL and the coach was fired in pretty much every stop he made. He puts together a solid rushing attack, but has never really put together a great passing game. They also used their top pick on a guy that will provide nothing for 2018.

All that said, I think McDermott is a decent coach. I think the problem is that there are now expectations and I'm not sure the Bills management is all that patient. I lived in Toronto for a while and would love to see the Bills do well, but they've sucked for a while and there's a reason for that.

And to think they had that offense with Taylor at the helm.

Teams, all teams strive to find a franchise QB. That is what the Bills did here. While I am not sure if Allen contributes this year but he could. Or he could be Rodgers, Brady, Romo, Favre, Cousins, or any number of teams that waited for their QB to develop.

Expecting or even demanding a rookie QB plays is not reality. He could be Prescott, Wentz or sit like Geoff. We will soon find out but based on your own point differential I would think making a change at QB is justified.

Daboll is certainly not a step back from the last OC. Hard to know if the Bills ownership is patient but I expect McDermont to get 3 years minimum.

Best news for the Bills is they have a stout defense and can win ugly especially when the weather turns. Barely made the playoffs is still awesome for a team that hasn't sniffed the postseason forever it seams.

[hockeyBjj]

WHY THE bleep IS THIS SUCH A TRENDING TOPIC!!!!??!!!

[Dynasty DeLorean]

WHY THE bleep IS THIS SUCH A TRENDING TOPIC!!!!??!!!

uhhh, have you seen this stud?

[ArrylT]

WHY THE bleep IS THIS SUCH A TRENDING TOPIC!!!!??!!!

And he is a SF league participant.

More seriously though - I think it is important to have discussions about the less popular / less valuable players as much as the studs. There are only so many ways you can debate / dissect Barkley / Mixon /Engram before you are repeating the same things ad nauseum but sometimes (hopefully) a different discussion about a lesser known player can impart something that could be useful - such as the differing viewpoints on the Buffalo Bills, their coaching staff, potential for success and Tyrod Taylor contained in this thread.

I'd like to hear more actual discussion on whether or not Peterman could eventually be taken seriously as an NFL QB - seems like most (and I currently agree) think its going to be McCarron leading to Allen - just the when & how are in doubt.

That and sometimes the more trivial discussions can be the most popular to partake in. Just part of human nature I suppose

[ninotoreS]

I understand why they parted from Tyrod. He's a limited player whose stats have gotten progressively worse over the past 3 years.

Exactly like how the options he had to throw to got progressively worse every year from deliberate front-office actions, culminating with that hilarious dumpster fire in '17.

And yet, Taylor still had a winning record in Buffalo, got the Bills to the playoffs for the first time in forever, and graded positively on PFF.

uhhh, have you seen this stud?

I suspect DD wants us to think he's being ironic, but that privately he's actually not.

[ericanadian]

WHY THE bleep IS THIS SUCH A TRENDING TOPIC!!!!??!!!

And he is a SF league participant.

More seriously though - I think it is important to have discussions about the less popular / less valuable players as much as the studs. There are only so many ways you can debate / dissect Barkley / Mixon /Engram before you are repeating the same things ad nauseum but sometimes (hopefully) a different discussion about a lesser known player can impart something that could be useful - such as the differing viewpoints on the Buffalo Bills, their coaching staff, potential for success and Tyrod Taylor contained in this thread.

I'd like to hear more actual discussion on whether or not Peterman could eventually be taken seriously as an NFL QB - seems like most (and I currently agree) think its going to be McCarron leading to Allen - just the when & how are in doubt.

That and sometimes the more trivial discussions can be the most popular to partake in. Just part of human nature I suppose

I don't think Peterman is five interceptions bad. He came in unprepared against a solid defensive backfield and got embarrassed, but he has some potential. I don't think McCarron is much better than Peterman and the fact that McDermott benched Tyrod for Peterman in an important game suggests to me that McDermott sees something he likes in Peterman and this could be more than just smoke. That said, I don't want any part of that passing offense at this point, so it's mostly irrelevant to me.

[_yeti]

I don't think Peterman is five interceptions bad. He came in unprepared against a solid defensive backfield and got embarrassed, but he has some potential. I don't think McCarron is much better than Peterman and the fact that McDermott benched Tyrod for Peterman in an important game suggests to me that McDermott sees something he likes in Peterman and this could be more than just smoke. That said, I don't want any part of that passing offense at this point, so it's mostly irrelevant to me.

Agreed. I remember being when Kirk Cousins first was thrust into a starting role, I had had injuries at QB in my redraft and I was a believer in him and was happy he was getting his shot. I streamed him for some important end of the year games and he was an absolute dumpster fire. It took a while for me to believe in Cousins again after that.

Relevance? Watching Peterman in the Senior Bowl he both looked decent and reminded me of Cousins. That Cousins thing has been a continued lesson to me though when people write off rookies and their struggles as if they can't be good NFL QBs. It is the anomaly when a rookie can go into an NFL game at QB and have success.

That being said, I think Peterman only has relevance in 2QB and his ceiling is 'poor man's Kirk Cousins' with no offensive options so even there he isn't worth much. His floor is guy who gets insanely rich by normal standards being a lifetime 2nd to 3rd stringer. I want that job haha

[ArrylT]

That is a good point - I guess we shall see if Buffalo or another team gives Peterman the Cousins treatment*.


* - I suppose it could also be the Brees treatment - basically letting a QB learn by baptism of fire, but benching occasionally and giving him feedback & positive reinforcement to keep their progress positive.

[Orenthal Shames]

AJ McCarron is so bad

[oregonreefers]

SF dynasty league, PPR, recently finished start-up draft. Team listed below. Winston suspension and current roster construction poses problem. I somewhat short-sightedly drafted only three QBs, and now it appears I won't have one of them for the first three (or so) games of the season. Should I try to pick up Peterman off waivers? More pointedly, how much of my FAAB budget should I allocate to the attempt? $3? More? The league is active, and I'm sure others have heard the recent Peterman "news," but I don't want to spend more than necessary as I expect to work the waiver wire hard to improve the roster.. As it stands, I'm willing to bid a few bucks and drop Brandon Marshall or Brice Butler to make room. Or should I try to trade Hurns and/or someone else for a starting QB, e.g., Manning?

QB: Winston, Bortles, Rosen
RB: Hunt, Barkley, Blount, Penny, Allen, Clement, Powell, Ballage, Edmonds, West
WR: A.J.Green, Kupp, Hurns, Richardson, D.J. Moore , R. Grant, Butler, Allison, B. Marshall, Chad Williams, Tre'Quan Smith
TE: Graham, Willson, McDonald, Goedert

TIA

[Dookmarriot]

WHY THE bleep IS THIS SUCH A TRENDING TOPIC!!!!??!!!

Would you rather another Saquon thread?

Honestly, discussions about fringe guys are much more valuable and interesting to me than going over the same ground again and again with the players everybody knows.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

You can’t stop him, you can only hope to contain him

[Life of Pablo]

Finally a good thread in here worth discussing

[ArrylT]

Did anyone else notice that Peterman and Superman have the same # of letters in their name - and that Nathan is also the name of the character from HEROES that could fly? That cannot just be a coincidence!

Maybe the reason he threw 5 INTs is because the ball contained kryptonite ...

[Dynasty DeLorean]

Petermania is sweeping the nation baby!!!