DGB is so bad.....
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... that he couldn't run a paper route properly.
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Still own a couple of shares myself - nothing worth dropping him for atm.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
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so bad he could not learn the playbook if it was written in crayon. I packaged him up last year with the 1.10 in this years draft the 1.5 in last years and Giovanni Bernard for Amari Cooper.
The original deal was for David Johnson and he had to add something but he did not think Johnson was worth it.
He expressed remorse last week.
The original deal was for David Johnson and he had to add something but he did not think Johnson was worth it.
He expressed remorse last week.
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DGB is so bad that he'll take another season or two to become a WR1, which is apparently longer than anyone wants to wait.
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Free agent rbs can be successes waiting to happen. I can't recall a single wr since cris carter that has been a #1 that was ever a free agent AFTER getting pushed into roles to succeed. DGB was drafted decently high, pushed to succeed, subsequently dumped and sits unsigned. I'm all for patience with young WRs, but his case is a little different than waiting on a Tyler Lockett or something.
Could there actually be strong interest from teams and he's holding out for more $? I suppose it's possible. Could he ever develop into a #1 wr? Sure, it's possible. There are so many other better bets though, imo. Including just investing in future picks to target some other wr that comes along.
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Granted I'm not super high on the guy right now and am pretty split on whether he'd ever pan out or not, but I think being pushed to succeed was part of the problem.Valhalla wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:10 amFree agent rbs can be successes waiting to happen. I can't recall a single wr since cris carter that has been a #1 that was ever a free agent AFTER getting pushed into roles to succeed. DGB was drafted decently high, pushed to succeed, subsequently dumped and sits unsigned. I'm all for patience with young WRs, but his case is a little different than waiting on a Tyler Lockett or something.
Could there actually be strong interest from teams and he's holding out for more $? I suppose it's possible. Could he ever develop into a #1 wr? Sure, it's possible. There are so many other better bets though, imo. Including just investing in future picks to target some other wr that comes along.
He started 5 games as a rookie and several of those were after Mariota got hurt so he had to deal with Zach Mettenberger under center (not to mention no rushing threat) after not having played football in almost a year and a half (yes I know it was completely his fault and that's definitely a knock on him) and he was already very raw before that happened. While his catch % of 47.8 and catch total of 32 isn't great for a 2nd round rookie he still managed to put up 549 yards and 4 TDs and one 2-Pt conversion on the season which is 96.9 points in a .5 PPR league. That's more points (in 5 starts mind you) than Robby Anderson (8 starts) or Robert Woods (10 starts) last year and Mettenberger is barely an upgrade over the nonsense Anderson had throwing to him, if at all (and certainly worse than Tyrod) and both those players are not only on NFL rosters but at least in Anderson's case are looking to be heavily targeted this year and both of them have been talked about as fantasy pieces.
Then, he inexplicably gets traded mid-August for a depth OL to a team that runs a very different offensive scheme and has only 7 starts with yet another rookie QB and his numbers drop to 392 yards and 2 TDs, second most of any WR on the Eagles.
I'm not gonna sit here and stump for DGB or claim he's gonna be great, or even good, for fantasy and yeah the Titans definitely reached for him in the draft, but he's been forced into a starting position on two separate teams and barely given a chance to learn a scheme for more than a season, let alone build rapport with a QB, and even though he's raw as a receiver he's still incredibly athletic. If he can end up with a good QB with a good receivers coach I think he could still be a productive NFL player.
PS: DGB has a career 1st Down/reception rate of 80.8% on 68 catches, the only receiver last year with at least 40 receptions who had a higher first down rate was Mike Evans, it means nothing for fantasy but it's valuable to NFL teams, you'd think someone would want a guy like that on their team, even as just a depth piece/project guy
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This thread makes me sad.....
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DGB has issues; he was stopped in hometown (Springfield, MO) a few years back when he was still in college. Vehicle had a AK & couple pounds of pot in trunk; he got off because he said it wasn't his. Probably wasn't but the point is, he has some character stuff out there that continues to follow him. High school he had to live with his coach (family issue) to stay out of trouble and show up to class.
Locals there have said he would never make it unless he got rid of his "posse", evidently they are still with him.
He was just another in a long line of what could have been.......
Locals there have said he would never make it unless he got rid of his "posse", evidently they are still with him.
He was just another in a long line of what could have been.......
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Feels like if he swallows his pride and goes to the CFL for a season or 2 to learn how to play he might have a chance. Won't be old and will still be big and fast but with more reps under his belt without the spotlight or pressure and can learn the nuances of playing WR.Valhalla wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:10 am Free agent rbs can be successes waiting to happen. I can't recall a single wr since cris carter that has been a #1 that was ever a free agent AFTER getting pushed into roles to succeed. DGB was drafted decently high, pushed to succeed, subsequently dumped and sits unsigned. I'm all for patience with young WRs, but his case is a little different than waiting on a Tyler Lockett or something.
Could there actually be strong interest from teams and he's holding out for more $? I suppose it's possible. Could he ever develop into a #1 wr? Sure, it's possible. There are so many other better bets though, imo. Including just investing in future picks to target some other wr that comes along.
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Brandon Lloyd had 7 awful to mediocre years before exploding for 77/1448/6. Can't think of anyone else though. And he only did it for one year.Valhalla wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:10 amFree agent rbs can be successes waiting to happen. I can't recall a single wr since cris carter that has been a #1 that was ever a free agent AFTER getting pushed into roles to succeed. DGB was drafted decently high, pushed to succeed, subsequently dumped and sits unsigned. I'm all for patience with young WRs, but his case is a little different than waiting on a Tyler Lockett or something.
Could there actually be strong interest from teams and he's holding out for more $? I suppose it's possible. Could he ever develop into a #1 wr? Sure, it's possible. There are so many other better bets though, imo. Including just investing in future picks to target some other wr that comes along.
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I'm out. Cut him today.
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His vertical was actually pretty poor.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:20 pmWhat's that you say? 6'4 WR with a long history of off-field problems but can jump really high? He's going to be a star.
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How was it inexplicable? Tennessee traded him because he was dogging it in OTA's and getting outplayed by inferior talent. Philadelphia cut him for the same reason. I can't remember the last time a 2nd round WR was essentially cut during OTA's in consecutive off seasons before the beginning of his 3rd year.StableOfRBs wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:15 amGranted I'm not super high on the guy right now and am pretty split on whether he'd ever pan out or not, but I think being pushed to succeed was part of the problem.Valhalla wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:10 amFree agent rbs can be successes waiting to happen. I can't recall a single wr since cris carter that has been a #1 that was ever a free agent AFTER getting pushed into roles to succeed. DGB was drafted decently high, pushed to succeed, subsequently dumped and sits unsigned. I'm all for patience with young WRs, but his case is a little different than waiting on a Tyler Lockett or something.
Could there actually be strong interest from teams and he's holding out for more $? I suppose it's possible. Could he ever develop into a #1 wr? Sure, it's possible. There are so many other better bets though, imo. Including just investing in future picks to target some other wr that comes along.
He started 5 games as a rookie and several of those were after Mariota got hurt so he had to deal with Zach Mettenberger under center (not to mention no rushing threat) after not having played football in almost a year and a half (yes I know it was completely his fault and that's definitely a knock on him) and he was already very raw before that happened. While his catch % of 47.8 and catch total of 32 isn't great for a 2nd round rookie he still managed to put up 549 yards and 4 TDs and one 2-Pt conversion on the season which is 96.9 points in a .5 PPR league. That's more points (in 5 starts mind you) than Robby Anderson (8 starts) or Robert Woods (10 starts) last year and Mettenberger is barely an upgrade over the nonsense Anderson had throwing to him, if at all (and certainly worse than Tyrod) and both those players are not only on NFL rosters but at least in Anderson's case are looking to be heavily targeted this year and both of them have been talked about as fantasy pieces.
Then, he inexplicably gets traded mid-August for a depth OL to a team that runs a very different offensive scheme and has only 7 starts with yet another rookie QB and his numbers drop to 392 yards and 2 TDs, second most of any WR on the Eagles.
DGB's problem isn't that he's been pushed to succeed too early. His issue is that he's a space cadet with terrible work ethic. Some players just don't have the drive to play in the NFL and he's looking like one of them.
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