Rico Gathers Fan Club
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Picked up one share. looking to garb another-team 4- have Hooper, would anyone drop Fleener or ASJ to make room for Rico?
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QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
Re: Rico Gathers Fan Club
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10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
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Re: Rico Gathers Fan Club
Pleasantly surprised he's still available in my 14 team league. He had been picked up and then dropped prior to the preseason games starting so I guess other owners thought he was still rostered.
Hopefully Engram/Gathers will leave me set at TE for the next 10 yrs and I can ignore the position.
Hopefully Engram/Gathers will leave me set at TE for the next 10 yrs and I can ignore the position.
Re: Rico Gathers Fan Club
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
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I'd consider dropping ASJ for Rico. They're both just low-floor, high-ceiling lottery tickets at TE. It just depends on who you believe in more.
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Agreed. I'd absolutely toss a coin between Gathers and ASJ.
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Re: Rico Gathers Fan Club
Well, as stated in my second to last post here (not including this one), for me it comes down to immediate utility vs 'investment opportunity'. There's no 'investment opportunity' in Clay, I think. With Clay you're getting a known quantity, a borderline TE1/TE2 play that people likely won't ever want to acquire from you for more than a 4th round pick or something. If a dynasty roster's already got one or two equal or better TE starters for their lineup -- which in a 12-team league shouldn't be too hard to manage -- then I can't see Clay having much value to those rosters. So in those cases, for those dynasty rosters, Gathers seems to me like a much better use of the roster space. He might be nothing. But if he does become something, I'm guessing he'll generate more sell-high hype than Clay will ever inspire.
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Totally agree. Guess I'm just on the side that it's more likely Gathers is a weekly inactive and Clay is a low end TE1, than it is Gathers becomes a TD maven. But even a couple of good games from Gathers and his perceived value will undoubtedly crush Clay's.ninotoreS wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:12 pmWell, as stated in my second to last post here (not including this one), for me it comes down to immediate utility vs 'investment opportunity'. There's no 'investment opportunity' in Clay, I think. With Clay you're getting a known quantity, a borderline TE1/TE2 play that people likely won't ever want to acquire from you for more than a 4th round pick or something. If a dynasty roster's already got one or two equal or better TE starters for their lineup -- which in a 12-team league shouldn't be too hard to manage -- then I can't see Clay having much value to those rosters. So in those cases, for those dynasty rosters, Gathers seems to me like a much better use of the roster space. He might be nothing. But if he does become something, I'm guessing he'll generate more sell-high hype than Clay will ever inspire.
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
Re: Rico Gathers Fan Club
His value arc can very well mimic what we saw of Jordan Cameron, minus the concussions.....
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Even in a Superflex, I think I'd rather own Gathers than C. Jones. Highly unlikely Jones ever gets a chance at starting, might as well take the high-upside lottery ticket with Gathers.
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QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich
Re: Rico Gathers Fan Club
FWIW Evan Silva of Rotoworld ranked Gathers as the fourth best rookie* dynasty TE behind only the big 3. Obviously Gathers isn't a rookie but he felt the need to include him in the rankings. Silva also has a lot of hot takes in here such as ranking Fournette behind McCaffrey and Mixon as well as ranking Mike Williams as the 12th rookie WR. So a lot of nonconventional rankings here for sure, but that's one more voice for the Gathers hype train.
http://rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/73793 ... ranks?pg=4
http://rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/73793 ... ranks?pg=4
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
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Whether you agree or not, it's good that Silva explains his rationale especially when it's not in line with conventional thinking.
The Gathers ranking makes sense since he's as much of a crapshoot as anyone else after the big 3 but he has a year under his belt.
The Gathers ranking makes sense since he's as much of a crapshoot as anyone else after the big 3 but he has a year under his belt.
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I'm not sure whose post I read about three weeks ago, but it prompted me to go out and immediately pick him up everywhere. So this is a shout out to the couple people who were beating the drum before anyone else. Thank you.
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Re: Rico Gathers Fan Club
these are his updated rankings, as in a day ago. a couple of months ago he had williams as the #2 wr. no mention of gathers.jcc6fd wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:52 am FWIW Evan Silva of Rotoworld ranked Gathers as the fourth best rookie* dynasty TE behind only the big 3. Obviously Gathers isn't a rookie but he felt the need to include him in the rankings. Silva also has a lot of hot takes in here such as ranking Fournette behind McCaffrey and Mixon as well as ranking Mike Williams as the 12th rookie WR. So a lot of nonconventional rankings here for sure, but that's one more voice for the Gathers hype train.
http://rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/73793 ... ranks?pg=4
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Re: Rico Gathers Fan Club
I'd actually personally drop Fleener for him, but I've been pretty vocally anti-Fleener for quite some time now.WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:45 amI'd consider dropping ASJ for Rico. They're both just low-floor, high-ceiling lottery tickets at TE. It just depends on who you believe in more.
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12 Team SF, PPR, TE Prem., DT prem., IDP Start 10, QB, 1SF, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 1 IDPflex
QB: J. Fields, B. Mayfield, G. Smith, M. Mariota, S. Darnold
RB: T. Etienne, T. Pollard, S. Barkley, J.Jacobs A. Jones, , A. Gibson, D. Harris, Z. Moss, E. Elliott
WR: G. Wilson, T. Higgins, T. McLaurin C. Kirk, D. Hopkins, K. Toney. K. Osborn, M. Hardman
TE: T.J. Hockenson, K. Pitts, H. Henry
DL: M. Parsons, Q. Williams, D. Buckner, R. Gary
LB: F. Oluokun, R. Smith, A. Anzalone. L. David
DB: B. Baker, J. Metellus, R. Grant
*5 leagues (est. 2015, '17, '18, '18, '22, 6 total 'ships)
12 Team SF, PPR, TE Prem., DT prem., IDP Start 10, QB, 1SF, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 1 IDPflex
QB: J. Fields, B. Mayfield, G. Smith, M. Mariota, S. Darnold
RB: T. Etienne, T. Pollard, S. Barkley, J.Jacobs A. Jones, , A. Gibson, D. Harris, Z. Moss, E. Elliott
WR: G. Wilson, T. Higgins, T. McLaurin C. Kirk, D. Hopkins, K. Toney. K. Osborn, M. Hardman
TE: T.J. Hockenson, K. Pitts, H. Henry
DL: M. Parsons, Q. Williams, D. Buckner, R. Gary
LB: F. Oluokun, R. Smith, A. Anzalone. L. David
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