Sammy Watkins to Rams

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby A-train » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:25 pm

I got offered Blount and Moncrief for Watkins but I'm not a fan of either of those players.
Team 1: 20 team standard dynasty league.
QB: Marcus Mariota, Carson Wentz
RB: Ezekiel Elliot, Charles Sims, D'onta Foreman, Paul Perkins, Donnell Pumphrey, Chris Carson
WR: Sammy Watkins, Josh Doctson, Laquon Treadwell, Kevin White, John Brown, Marqise Lee, Taywan Taylor
TE: Eric Ebron, Cameron Brate
D/ST: Patriots

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby PingPwng » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:38 pm

A-train wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:25 pm
I got offered Blount and Moncrief for Watkins but I'm not a fan of either of those players.
Terrible offer in the first place.
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QB:C. Newton/J. Goff
RB:T. Gurley/L. Bell/J. Howard/J. Mixon/D. Foreman/E. McGuire/A. Morris
WR:M. Evans/D. Parker/T. Hill/D. Moncrief/T. Gabriel/E. Decker/J. Maclin/A. Robinson (IR)/O. Beckham (IR)
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby maxhyde » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:20 pm

Valhalla wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:54 am
If I could get Pryor and a 1st for Sammy I'd be all over that
If I could get Sammy for Pryor and a 1st I would overpay to go get Pryor to make it happen.

I am not saying he is certain to have success but just not as terrible a spot as everyone is making out. I hope Watkins owners are freaking out in leagues I don't own him so I can own him in more.
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Hackenberg
RB: David Johnson, Bernard, Blount, DMC, Ellington, Logan(IR), MLynch** JWilliams (2.14), McNichols(2.15), Tolbert
WR: DT, Jeffery,Cooper, MFloyd, Josh Gordon, Peake, Brice Butler, Switzer, KCole, Chester Rogers, Tommylee Lewis
TE: Rudolph, Hollister

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby Valhalla » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:34 pm

maxhyde wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:20 pm
Valhalla wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:54 am
If I could get Pryor and a 1st for Sammy I'd be all over that
If I could get Sammy for Pryor and a 1st I would overpay to go get Pryor to make it happen.

I am not saying he is certain to have success but just not as terrible a spot as everyone is making out. I hope Watkins owners are freaking out in leagues I don't own him so I can own him in more.
It's not that I dislike Sammy a ton. I just think Pryor is about equal, so the first makes the decision easy for me. I'm probably higher than the consensus on Pryor though.

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby JJDubya » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:39 am

Short term, I can't see Sammy doing much better that what Britt did last year. I'm happy with mid-low end WR2 numbers this season. I do agree with sentiment above that McVey and the Rams organization should be a step up than the fiasco in Buffalo. At least they have a plan and direction. Agree that Snead's existence as GM should be questioned but Sammy is a big win for the franchise, and if Goff can improve, Sammy's outlook there long term could be much better than the harsh environment in Buffalo.

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby Jpalladino91 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:04 pm

Thinking about taking the following deal for Sammy, but not sure if its an overpay given his current situation. This is a .5 ppr league (team 3 in sig).

Give: Doctson or M. Williams + 2018 1st (should be top 4)
Get: Sammy + Boyd
12 Team PPR 5-1
I Love Black Gurleys
QB: Brees Bradford, Bridgewater,Tannehiill
RB: Gurley, Miller, Crowell, Foreman, West, Blount, Hill, Quizz, Ivory
WR: MThomas, AJG, DT, Parker, Arob, Golladay, Lee
TE: Gronk, Njoku , D Allen, ASJ,
DEF:Broncos

12 Team .5 PPR
President Mixon.
QB - Wilson, Ryan
RB - Howard, Mixon, Ingram, AP, Allen, Ameer, McGuire, Dixon, Booker
WR - Julio, Cooks, Parker, J Brown, M Williams, Doctson, Ross, Doctson, Fowler, White,
TE - Ertz, OJ Howard, James
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2018 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby ericanadian » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:10 pm

Jpalladino91 wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:04 pm
Thinking about taking the following deal for Sammy, but not sure if its an overpay given his current situation. This is a .5 ppr league (team 3 in sig).

Give: Doctson or M. Williams + 2018 1st (should be top 4)
Get: Sammy + Boyd
Makes sense in a rebuild. I probably prefer Williams to Doctson, simply because he'll provide you a longer window to move him at value.
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QB - Stafford, Trubisky, Garoppolo
RB - Montgomery, Henry, Bernard, Foreman, Booker, Prosise, Darkwa
WR - Julio, D. Bryant, Watkins, Lee, Gordon, Kupp
TE - Kelce, DeValve
LB - Kuechly, Shazier
DL - Ansah, Suh, Hunter
DB - Joseph, Neal, Peppers
K - Just a stupid kicker

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby maxhyde » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:30 pm

Jpalladino91 wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:04 pm
Thinking about taking the following deal for Sammy, but not sure if its an overpay given his current situation. This is a .5 ppr league (team 3 in sig).

Give: Doctson or M. Williams + 2018 1st (should be top 4)
Get: Sammy + Boyd
I would do this and send Doctson+1st. If I had to send Williams I might balk a little.

Anyway I think it is a decent deal
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Hackenberg
RB: David Johnson, Bernard, Blount, DMC, Ellington, Logan(IR), MLynch** JWilliams (2.14), McNichols(2.15), Tolbert
WR: DT, Jeffery,Cooper, MFloyd, Josh Gordon, Peake, Brice Butler, Switzer, KCole, Chester Rogers, Tommylee Lewis
TE: Rudolph, Hollister

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby jabomb » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:41 pm

Just traded for Sammy in a best ball dynasty (incl return yardage)

Gave: Tyler Lockett, 2018 Late 1st, 2018 Late 2nd
Got: Sammy
12 team PPR (Rushing Premium - .15/yd) - 1QB 2-4RB 2-4WR 1-3TE

Winston, Rivers
Gordon, Fournette, Mixon, McCaffrey, Crowell, Gillislee, Burkhead, Richard, Barner, Drake
K Allen, M Thomas (NO), M. Bryant, Doctson, Boyd, Marq Lee, Jaron Brown, Patterson,
Kelce, Cook, Higbee
Picks 2018 1st, 4th

12 team PPR - 1QB 2-4RB 2-4WR 1-3TE

Rodgers, Flacco, Garoppolo
Gordon, Crowell, Ware, CJ Anderson, Dixon, Gio Bernard
Cooper, Hilton, Diggs, Matthews, Snead, John Brown, Woods, Chad Williams
Kelce, Hooper, CJF
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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby maxhyde » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:16 am

jabomb wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:41 pm
Just traded for Sammy in a best ball dynasty (incl return yardage)

Gave: Tyler Lockett, 2018 Late 1st, 2018 Late 2nd
Got: Sammy
Close. I really like Lockett in return leagues but would really depend on how returns are scored
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Hackenberg
RB: David Johnson, Bernard, Blount, DMC, Ellington, Logan(IR), MLynch** JWilliams (2.14), McNichols(2.15), Tolbert
WR: DT, Jeffery,Cooper, MFloyd, Josh Gordon, Peake, Brice Butler, Switzer, KCole, Chester Rogers, Tommylee Lewis
TE: Rudolph, Hollister

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby rubber_duck » Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:24 am

jabomb wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:41 pm
Just traded for Sammy in a best ball dynasty (incl return yardage)

Gave: Tyler Lockett, 2018 Late 1st, 2018 Late 2nd
Got: Sammy
Sammy in a best ball league is a shrewd play. Lockett + 1st + 2nd is a little pricey, but I like the move.

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby Jason3123 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:54 am

jabomb wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:41 pm
Just traded for Sammy in a best ball dynasty (incl return yardage)

Gave: Tyler Lockett, 2018 Late 1st, 2018 Late 2nd
Got: Sammy
Landslide win in my opinion. Not even a premium pick? Stealing. Lockett is such an ancillary player.
10 Team Superflex / 23 Man Salary / 7 Taxi / PPR / 5pt RB 100 yd Bonus
QB - Andrew Luck, Andy Dalton, Philip Rivers, Sam Bradford
RB - Todd Gurley, Carlos Hyde, Lamar Miller, Ty Montgomery, Javorius Allen, Kenneth Dixon (TS), C.J. Prosise (TS), D'Onta Foreman (TS)
WR - Amari Cooper, Mike Evans, Brandin Cooks, Jordan Matthews, Keenan Allen, Jeremy Maclin
TE - Tyler Eifert, Vance McDonald, Charles Clay, Adam Shaheen
2018: 1st (top 3), 1st, 4th, 2019: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 4th

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby gausec » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:41 pm

As a Watkins owner, I like the change longterm. However, I don't see this as much of a downgrade for Sammy for this year. Here are the reasons I like the move:
  • He moves to an offensive minded coach
    He plays inside a dome, no more crappy weather.
    He will play with Goff who is supposed to be a Franchise QB to early to tell if he bust
12 team, 1PPR: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Flex
QB: Palmer, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, Hyde, D. Johnson, Burkehead, Barber, Clement, Langford, West
WR: Hilton, Kelvin, Byrant, Cobb, Coleman, Cruz, Fuller, M. Goodwin, C. Henderson, Hurns, Louis, Meredith, Wheaton
TE: Eifert, Gates, McDonald, Kittle, Rivera, DeValve

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby Kurt G.O.A.T. » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:42 pm

gausec wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:41 pm
As a Watkins owner, I like the change longterm. However, I don't see this as much of a downgrade for Sammy for this year. Here are the reasons I like the move:
  • He moves to an offensive minded coach
    He plays inside a dome, no more crappy weather.
    He will play with Goff who is supposed to be a Franchise QB to early to tell if he bust
you're 3 years too early on the dome. won't be ready until 2020.

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Re: Sammy Watkins to Rams

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:10 pm

I think Watkins' value doesn't really change. Sean McVay's offensive mind is definitely a pro, but the con is that there are still a lot of questions about Jared Goff. Whatever your opinion of Tyrod Taylor, he keeps plays alive with his mobility and has a good deep ball.
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees
RB: LeSean McCoy, Doug Martin, Alex Collins, Wayne Gallman, Malcolm Brown, Spencer Ware [IR]
WR: Mike Evans, Julio Jones, Jordy Nelson, Tyreek Hill, Emmanuel Sanders, Cooper Kupp
TE: Travis Kelce, Jack Doyle, Jonnu Smith | K: Stephen Gostkowski, Harrison Butker | DST: KC, BUF
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