Stop calling Sammy Watkins a stud

[TaquitoPeddler]

I just pray Sammy recovers from his concussion quickly.

[onetwothree]

Glad to see Sammy do well this week. Seems like he ended up in a good situation in a newly minted, high-power offense.

It's still the Niners and Colts. Let's see how he does over the next month.

[cweds]

Are we still thinking he's in a good situation? It's hard to produce when you're only seeing 4 targets per game. Does it even make sense for the Rams to tag him after this season if this is how they're planning to use him?

[Jfever]

Religious chatter in a football forum.... Yuck. Keep it out of this forum and keep your beliefs to yourselves please. Somethings are simply better left unsaid. Those of you going off on your own personal beliefs that are not supported by evidence - well, some things you cant unsay.

Flat earth.... give me a break. It is sad that in 2017 that is a thing that we even waste our times discussing. It speaks volumes about the people that support it or buy into it. Says a lot about how powerful childhood indoctrination can be. Same can be said about other beliefs that get propagated despite the lack of evidence in today's world. I'll leave it at that.

Sammy Watkins, for as talented as he is, is not an elite fantasy asset. I don't think his lack of consistency has anything to do with him being a flat-earther, but.... one never knows what is going through his head now that that cat is out of the bag. I do think it has much to do with the LA offense and J.Goff's growing pains. IN the long run, I do think Sammy can be a nice WR2 with upside in fantasy. For the time being however, I think he'll have some ups and downs that his owners will have to endure. NFL athletes do not have to be "smart" to be successful. Most of them are not that intelligent because - most of them never had to be.

[Servo]

So here's the thing with Sammy/Goff and LA:

Garcon - 1,000 yards
DJax - 1,000 yards
Crowder - 800 yards
Reed - 600-700 yards
Davis - 500-600 yards
Thompson - 300-400 yards

Clearly, McVay spreads the ball, and above was based on Cousins throwing for nearly 5,000 yards last year. We've already seen this in LA with Woods, Watkins, Kupp, Higbee, Gurley being the lead receiver on a given week.

All in all, Watkins owners want him showered with targets and Sammy to me is clearly talented but it's just not the offense that calls for that kind of play calling...at least for right now.

[Slackalacker]

So here's the thing with Sammy/Goff and LA:

Garcon - 1,000 yards
DJax - 1,000 yards
Crowder - 800 yards
Reed - 600-700 yards
Davis - 500-600 yards
Thompson - 300-400 yards

Clearly, McVay spreads the ball, and above was based on Cousins throwing for nearly 5,000 yards last year. We've already seen this in LA with Woods, Watkins, Kupp, Higbee, Gurley being the lead receiver on a given week.

All in all, Watkins owners want him showered with targets and Sammy to me is clearly talented but it's just not the offense that calls for that kind of play calling...at least for right now.

Agreed. Garçon/Jackson were just the dudes that happened to get open the most. If Sammy wants more targets he has to get open and outside of two weeks ago he just hasn't done that.

[rubber_duck]

During the first half of the game yesterday I saw Watkins break open deep down the right sideline. Goff aired the ball out to him. It fell incomplete just out of Sammy's reach. It would have gone for a long TD and changed the game. The network didn't show any replay, however I was pretty sure Watkins gave up on the play and slowed down.

Did anyone else the same thing?

I assume if it did happen that way, then Watkins is hearing about it from the coaches today.

[lukkynumber13]

During the first half of the game yesterday I saw Watkins break open deep down the right sideline. Goff aired the ball out to him. It fell incomplete just out of Sammy's reach. It would have gone for a long TD and changed the game. The network didn't show any replay, however I was pretty sure Watkins gave up on the play and slowed down.

Did anyone else the same thing?

I assume if it did happen that way, then Watkins is hearing about it from the coaches today.

I was sick as a dog yesterday and didn't watch any games, but was listening to it on the radio (all the kids tilt their head, "what's that??") and heard the announcers say he gave up on his route.

[slaughterrt]

Before the start of the season, I traded Watkins straight up for Wentz in a 16 team superflex. No regrets.

[joeya2001]

no regerts

[Jfever]

Superflex, You got Wentz for Watkins? Wow. You killed that trade slaughterrt. I'm a fan of C.Wentz. NDSU is a neighbor. Wentz is a good kid.

Superflex value;

Wentz >>>>>>> Watkins.

[slaughterrt]

Superflex, You got Wentz for Watkins? Wow. You killed that trade slaughterrt. I'm a fan of C.Wentz. NDSU is a neighbor. Wentz is a good kid.

Superflex value;

Wentz >>>>>>> Watkins.

Yeah this was preseason before Wentz blew up (and I think before Sammy traded). I had only Bortles and Bridgewater at QB and I’m a big fan of Wentz. Acquired him wherever I could. Never cared for Watkins but got him in a trade last year (as I’m rebuilding). Figured I gotta build around a solid QB and Bortles was not the guy.

I got some flack for the trade, but in a 16 team superflex, sometimes you gotta overpay for that young QB (even though I didn’t really see this as an overpay).

[Cowboysfan33]

I own Watkins in two leagues but I benched him in both this weekend, one league started Aaron Jones over him(just wanted someone with sure touches) and in the other league started Rishard Matthews over him, he didn't do much but it's better than a zero. It's just hard for me to start him being that he's not very involved in the offense, I've considered trying to trade him but right now isn't a good time so I will just ride it out for awhile and see what happens.

[Cameron Giles]

So here's the thing with Sammy/Goff and LA:

Garcon - 1,000 yards
DJax - 1,000 yards
Crowder - 800 yards
Reed - 600-700 yards
Davis - 500-600 yards
Thompson - 300-400 yards

Clearly, McVay spreads the ball, and above was based on Cousins throwing for nearly 5,000 yards last year. We've already seen this in LA with Woods, Watkins, Kupp, Higbee, Gurley being the lead receiver on a given week.

All in all, Watkins owners want him showered with targets and Sammy to me is clearly talented but it's just not the offense that calls for that kind of play calling...at least for right now.

Agreed.

However, it's still clear that Goff either is not comfortable throwing to Watkins a lot and/or just isn't looking his way. McVay's offense will always be about throwing to the open man, but the past two weeks they have gone out of their way to get Tavon involved in the offense. They definitely can make more of an effort to get Watkins going if they're scheming touches for a limited gadget player.

[ArrylT]

During the first half of the game yesterday I saw Watkins break open deep down the right sideline. Goff aired the ball out to him. It fell incomplete just out of Sammy's reach. It would have gone for a long TD and changed the game. The network didn't show any replay, however I was pretty sure Watkins gave up on the play and slowed down.

Did anyone else the same thing?

I assume if it did happen that way, then Watkins is hearing about it from the coaches today.

I hate to admit it but it looked that way to me too - but hard to know for certain.

Interestingly enough there was a piece on Watkins on one of the shows this weekend about how he regrets how he acted in Buffalo and is ready to be more of a team player. Then that play happened. I think many players can be guilty of taking plays off - its just optically that looked bad to me.

And I am a Watkins fan & owner.