Buy Low on Hyde?
Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
I sold Hyde and my 2018 3rd for a 2018 1st (likely early). This was a few months ago before his value started rapidly declining but I still think its close to fair value.
Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
Nice. Shipping him for an early 1st. I like the sound of that!
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Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
I wasn't expecting an accept from my opening offer.ZPalmtree wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:21 amNo offense but trying to get both of those players for one 1st seems a bit light.HawkeyeState wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:02 pm I offered a 18 1st for Hyde and Marty B and was told to basically kick rocks.
12 team league.
In 3 years of the league my pick has been a top 5 1st each year.
So either this owner is very high on Hyde or he's just having a bad day
But as has been said on here, some may value Hyde as a mid to late 1st round pick or even an early 2nd round pick value now.
And with the track record of owning a top 5 1st each of the 3 years I've been in the league, that would carry an assumed early to mid 1st value if you ask me.
Marty B is 30 years old and never once topped 1,000 yards receiving.
Like I said, wasn't expecting an accept, was expecting an opening dialogue to work on a deal.
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Newton, Rivers
LF, Chubb, Michel, Kerryon, Hyde, AJones, Royce F, Crowell
Adams, Cooper, Alshon, Watkins, ARob, Fuller, Doctson, Funchess, Gallup, Pettis, Valdez-Scant
Gronk, HHenry, Engram
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Bell, JConner, MMack, Shady, CThompson, D'Onta Foreman, C Edmonds, B Scarborough
Julio, Nuk, Fuller, Cooks, ARob, Watkins, Cooper, SShepard, CDavis, DJ Chark
Kelce, Olsen, Andrews
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Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
This is sorta irrelevant. Hes a TE, a lot of them don't hit 1000 yards but that in no way means they are a bad TE. And for what its worth, Greg Olsen didn't have a 1,000 yard season until he was 30. Marty B is still a good TE2 with TE1 upside imoHawkeyeState wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:19 amI wasn't expecting an accept from my opening offer.ZPalmtree wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:21 amNo offense but trying to get both of those players for one 1st seems a bit light.HawkeyeState wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:02 pm I offered a 18 1st for Hyde and Marty B and was told to basically kick rocks.
12 team league.
In 3 years of the league my pick has been a top 5 1st each year.
So either this owner is very high on Hyde or he's just having a bad day
But as has been said on here, some may value Hyde as a mid to late 1st round pick or even an early 2nd round pick value now.
And with the track record of owning a top 5 1st each of the 3 years I've been in the league, that would carry an assumed early to mid 1st value if you ask me.
Marty B is 30 years old and never once topped 1,000 yards receiving.
Like I said, wasn't expecting an accept, was expecting an opening dialogue to work on a deal.
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Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
Almost literally the only talent the 49ers put on the field last year. His production was outstanding for how bad the team around him played. If he sticks around he sticks around i expect an increase in points from last year due to shanny, and if he moves i expect an increase due to better circumstance.Tsunami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:20 pmI was offered Hyde and Coleman for Melvin Gordon and I turned it down.
I think someone above said he was "phenomenal" but I never saw that. He was young and a starter, which is where his value came from, but I think he was always overrated. I haven't seen him show much in the way of talent. I don't know that Joe Williams is a realistic option but I do believe the part of the rumor that says Hyde isn't a great fit for the new system. So to me what you are calling a "buy low" opportunity is where his value should have been in the first place. I do own him in a league or two and I will probably hold.
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Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
Hyde's name creeps up at the top of a lot of performance metrics, so he's doing something right. He's just on a horrific team/offense/organization really, and has had some injury issues. Otherwise he's a fine RB. Still betting on a career year with Shanahan and contract season.
Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
HawkeyeState wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:19 amI wasn't expecting an accept from my opening offer.ZPalmtree wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:21 amI thought you meant Martavis BryantHawkeyeState wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:02 pm I offered a 18 1st for Hyde and Marty B and was told to basically kick rocks.
12 team league.
In 3 years of the league my pick has been a top 5 1st each year.
So either this owner is very high on Hyde or he's just having a bad day
No offense but trying to get both of those players for one 1st seems a bit light.
But as has been said on here, some may value Hyde as a mid to late 1st round pick or even an early 2nd round pick value now.
And with the track record of owning a top 5 1st each of the 3 years I've been in the league, that would carry an assumed early to mid 1st value if you ask me.
Marty B is 30 years old and never once topped 1,000 yards receiving.
Like I said, wasn't expecting an accept, was expecting an opening dialogue to work on a deal.
Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
People were clamoring for DGB to get released and traded, now look where we are.
All I'm trying to point out is, if Hyde is that good...why would SF throw him in the trash? Yes, different coaches have different playbooks that require certain skill sets but if Hyde is as good as people think or say, then how can he not cut it? Just seems odd.
If him being released ultimately happens of course.
All I'm trying to point out is, if Hyde is that good...why would SF throw him in the trash? Yes, different coaches have different playbooks that require certain skill sets but if Hyde is as good as people think or say, then how can he not cut it? Just seems odd.
If him being released ultimately happens of course.
Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
Seems like someone worth taking a chance on at the right price... never been below 4ypc just for comparison:
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OLINE RANK 29
Melvin Gordon who's selling high right now was:
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OLINE RANK 31
I found this article fairly compelling on Hyde, even if he does get cut
Last Season
carries 217 Yds 988 avg 4.6 TDs 9
OLINE RANK 29
Melvin Gordon who's selling high right now was:
carries 254 Yds 997 avg 3.9 TDs 12
OLINE RANK 31
I found this article fairly compelling on Hyde, even if he does get cut
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Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
I might buy Hyde but I am betting most owners are going to wait it out and I have sold hyde anywhere I take over an orphan with him.
I think he is a good RB but hasn't really ever been able to get rolling in SF with injuries and crappy game scripts with the 9ers being so woeful on offense
I think he is a good RB but hasn't really ever been able to get rolling in SF with injuries and crappy game scripts with the 9ers being so woeful on offense
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Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
I got offered a 2nd round pick for him today in a 12 team superflex.
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Was verbally offered a 2018 3rd in a 1QB IdP
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Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
I put an offer in for him today. Gore/Mack for Hyde. Owner is reluctant and will most likely like offer expire out.
Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
That seems a little low for Hyde, if you added a 2nd round pick to that, I'd probably take it.jdomer2403 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:54 pm I put an offer in for him today. Gore/Mack for Hyde. Owner is reluctant and will most likely like offer expire out.
Re: Buy Low on Hyde?
I am definitely buying at the right price. He puts up great numbers when he's on the field. If he can put together at least a 14-15 game season, I think he is easily a low-end RB1 in a Shanahan offense. As far as the news about him getting cut, I think it's just a bunch of fluff. He is the best player on that offense right now, they'd be stupid to cut him. Only feasible answer for them cutting him would be if they are trying to lose this year to grab a QB next year. Which does not really make sense because they signed Garcon to help them this year. If anything happens, I think it'd be a trade for him.
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