Kenneth Dixon torn meniscus

[Shoreline Steamers]

Does anyone else find it ridiculous that players can serve a suspension while he is on IR? It almost seems like he isn't getting any real punishment. I get that he loses his game checks...but it seems like BS to be suspended for games that he wouldn't be active for regardless.

To be fair, I would think that the NFL should only count suspensions towards games where the player would be active for. Seems like a cop out to do it the way they currently do.

Hypothetically, if Zeke gets hurt and put on short term IR ( a la David Johnson), could he not rescind his appeal and serve his suspension during the time he is inactive on IR? Talk about gaming the system.

I don't mind the players seemingly gaming a system I think is inherently stacked against them as currently constructed. I see your point, but at least this is one area where the NFLPA has an advantage. There aren't many of those in the current CBA in my opinion.

This opinion isn't born from being a Dixon owner. Just generally how I feel with regard to NFL labor relations these days. Though while the injury to Dixon was disappointing, him being afoul of the PED and now Substances of Abuse policy is downright disheartening. I'm not expecting much moving forward now. Oh well...

[ericanadian]

Does anyone else find it ridiculous that players can serve a suspension while he is on IR? It almost seems like he isn't getting any real punishment. I get that he loses his game checks...but it seems like BS to be suspended for games that he wouldn't be active for regardless.

To be fair, I would think that the NFL should only count suspensions towards games where the player would be active for. Seems like a cop out to do it the way they currently do.

Hypothetically, if Zeke gets hurt and put on short term IR ( a la David Johnson), could he not rescind his appeal and serve his suspension during the time he is inactive on IR? Talk about gaming the system.

I don't really see it as a big deal. The suspension is, and should be, entirely about the game checks. It's still a job, so getting to play doesn't really strike me as a benefit to the player. Certainly a benefit to the team, but I'm not sure punishing the team for player infractions makes all that much sense either.

[onetwothree]

Add 2 more games to the suspension.

Meaningless. It's all getting served on injured reserve.

I look at it as the next suspension would be 10 games and these PED ones seem to repeat themselves.

[IBall2]

Does anyone else find it ridiculous that players can serve a suspension while he is on IR? It almost seems like he isn't getting any real punishment. I get that he loses his game checks...but it seems like BS to be suspended for games that he wouldn't be active for regardless.

To be fair, I would think that the NFL should only count suspensions towards games where the player would be active for. Seems like a cop out to do it the way they currently do.

Hypothetically, if Zeke gets hurt and put on short term IR ( a la David Johnson), could he not rescind his appeal and serve his suspension during the time he is inactive on IR? Talk about gaming the system.

It's not that ridiculous, I'm pretty sure he can't use any team facilities while suspended so this means he has to rehab on his own while injured which actually may be harder than you think. It could set back his projected return time after injury or it could cause reinjury due to trying to do to much or improper training while rehabbing without the supervision of team trainers.

[Kramer]

Does anyone else find it ridiculous that players can serve a suspension while he is on IR? It almost seems like he isn't getting any real punishment. I get that he loses his game checks...but it seems like BS to be suspended for games that he wouldn't be active for regardless.

To be fair, I would think that the NFL should only count suspensions towards games where the player would be active for. Seems like a cop out to do it the way they currently do.

Hypothetically, if Zeke gets hurt and put on short term IR ( a la David Johnson), could he not rescind his appeal and serve his suspension during the time he is inactive on IR? Talk about gaming the system.

How would you stop that though? Teams could just say he's healthy and not disclose any injuries and let him sit on the sidelines when he's too injured to play for the games that he's suspended or whatever. Even if they disclosed the injury, they could say he'll try to play through it, but not play him or whatever and can justify it by saying it wasn't in the best interest of the team to play him this week. There's no good way to enforce something like what you want, I guess.

I'm not saying I agree with how it is, just don't see how they could get around it. Really though, losing game paychecks can have a big impact on players. Dixon could not get another contract, so losing 6 games of paychecks could be pretty costly for him in the long run.

[Tsunami]

Does anyone else find it ridiculous that players can serve a suspension while he is on IR? It almost seems like he isn't getting any real punishment. I get that he loses his game checks...but it seems like BS to be suspended for games that he wouldn't be active for regardless.

To be fair, I would think that the NFL should only count suspensions towards games where the player would be active for. Seems like a cop out to do it the way they currently do.

Hypothetically, if Zeke gets hurt and put on short term IR ( a la David Johnson), could he not rescind his appeal and serve his suspension during the time he is inactive on IR? Talk about gaming the system.

You can't stop the reverse, a suspended player being injured but not being put on IR until their suspension is over. How do you police keeping an injured player on the active list? There's no practical way to do what you are saying. But anyways, were you ever suspended from school? It's not exactly the punishment they make it out to be.

[onetwothree]

Keeping an injured player on the active roster to circumvent the suspension would force the team to burn a roster spot. Tough for some teams to do that since you'll have to use some spots on specialists and backups who can't contribute anywhere else.

[Tsunami]

Keeping an injured player on the active roster to circumvent the suspension would force the team to burn a roster spot. Tough for some teams to do that since you'll have to use some spots on specialists and backups who can't contribute anywhere else.

Suspended players don't use a roster spot.

[Vcize]

Does anyone else find it ridiculous that players can serve a suspension while he is on IR? It almost seems like he isn't getting any real punishment. I get that he loses his game checks...but it seems like BS to be suspended for games that he wouldn't be active for regardless.

To be fair, I would think that the NFL should only count suspensions towards games where the player would be active for. Seems like a cop out to do it the way they currently do.

Hypothetically, if Zeke gets hurt and put on short term IR ( a la David Johnson), could he not rescind his appeal and serve his suspension during the time he is inactive on IR? Talk about gaming the system.

How would you stop that though? Teams could just say he's healthy and not disclose any injuries and let him sit on the sidelines when he's too injured to play for the games that he's suspended or whatever. Even if they disclosed the injury, they could say he'll try to play through it, but not play him or whatever and can justify it by saying it wasn't in the best interest of the team to play him this week. There's no good way to enforce something like what you want, I guess.

I'm not saying I agree with how it is, just don't see how they could get around it. Really though, losing game paychecks can have a big impact on players. Dixon could not get another contract, so losing 6 games of paychecks could be pretty costly for him in the long run.

At the very least it seems like when a player is suspended when they're already on IR (as is the case with this latest 2 game suspension) that shouldn't go into affect until after they get off IR.