BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

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BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby WIZARD BEATZ » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:16 am

Wanted to bounce an idea off the boards here - In my league's rookie/FA draft I am the 1.07 pick with players so far off the board being, LF, CD, CMC, JM, DC, 1.06 on clock still. The question is given my team listed in sig I am pretty stacked at every position with no immediate positions to fill. Do I grab BEASTMODE at 1.07, instead of cracking the second tier of RB (Hunt, Perine, Kamara, Foreman) and forgoing Howard/Njoku. I have youth on my side ant top 10 talent in my top3 RBs, and I have Reed as my TE1, backed up by Miller and Clay for the time being. I would lean towards a rookie TE in rd3 (Kittles/Smith). My logic is I can get 2 productive seasons out of Marshawn Lynch, to help my team to win now, as my team is already set for win later given depth and age.

No one seems to be big on Lynch at all but I know he will not slide to me at 2.07 pick. An option is to try to trade back a few picks and get some more draft capitol or another decent player, if I can and still snag Lynch anyway.

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10 Teams - 29 Active - 2 IR - 0.5pt PPR, 6pt Pass TDs, 1pt per 25 Return Yards - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1K, 1DST
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford, B. Bortles, J. Goff
RB: M. Gordon, J. Howard, J. Ajayi, A. Abdullah, B. Powell, T. West, J. McKinnon
WR: O. Beckham, T. Hilton, M. Thomas, T. Hill, A. Robinson, W. Snead, M. Williams, M. Mitchell, R. Anderson, K. White, J. Gordon
TE: J. Reed, Z. Miller, C. Clay, V. Davis
D/ST: Miami
K: N. Novak
Picks 1.07, 2.07, 3.07 (3 Round Draft)

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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby skip » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:18 am

This question has been asked and answered many times on here already. I wouldn't waste any pick in the first two rounds on him.
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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby Goddard » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:23 am

For one, you don't need Lynch. Two, I wouldn't spend more than a 3rd if he was in my draft.

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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby IR1 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:29 am

I'd wait another round or two before going for Lynch, I'd go rb or howard
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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby maxhyde » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:36 am

Ross over Lynch for me
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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby _yeti » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:40 am

:thumbdown:

Um, Mike Williams?! Howard? No TE depth and you are thinking of taking Lynch over Howard :wall:

No way I take Lynch until at least the 3rd round
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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby Tsunami » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:41 am

I would pick Lynch over most of the guys left, except that O.J. Howard is a generational talent that would be hard to pass up, and Ross is the fastest person in the history of the NFL (though I don't know if that will translate to fantasy stats). And you also need a QB.

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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby WIZARD BEATZ » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:45 am

Ross over Lynch for me
Thanks for the comments back do far. Would you really take Ross as at 1.07 given my WRs? I just know he will never start for my team. Howard or RB seems more feasible to hit the field more often. My league does have unique 1pt for every 25ret yards, and I snagged Tyreek the Freak off waivers last season and he finished WR7 on the season in pts, behind OBJ (WR4) TY(WR5) and ahead of Michael Thomas(WR8). If Ross becomes a return specialist, I can see him being well worth the add since Tyreek will see harder coverage this season, and no kickoff duties.
10 Teams - 29 Active - 2 IR - 0.5pt PPR, 6pt Pass TDs, 1pt per 25 Return Yards - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, 1K, 1DST
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford, B. Bortles, J. Goff
RB: M. Gordon, J. Howard, J. Ajayi, A. Abdullah, B. Powell, T. West, J. McKinnon
WR: O. Beckham, T. Hilton, M. Thomas, T. Hill, A. Robinson, W. Snead, M. Williams, M. Mitchell, R. Anderson, K. White, J. Gordon
TE: J. Reed, Z. Miller, C. Clay, V. Davis
D/ST: Miami
K: N. Novak
Picks 1.07, 2.07, 3.07 (3 Round Draft)

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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby WIZARD BEATZ » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:49 am

:thumbdown:

Um, Mike Williams?! Howard? No TE depth and you are thinking of taking Lynch over Howard :wall:

No way I take Lynch until at least the 3rd round
Mike Williams may go at 1.06 who has yet to post a pick, I am 1.07 so I left him out of discussion. TEs are super deep in this draft for a candidate to develop, and I have Reed, who albeit is injured alot, but I got by just fine last season by using spot starts of Miller and Vernon Davis.

Also I know for a fact Lynch is gone by atleast the 2.04 pick, as a buddy has told me if he's there he will take him 100%.
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QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford, B. Bortles, J. Goff
RB: M. Gordon, J. Howard, J. Ajayi, A. Abdullah, B. Powell, T. West, J. McKinnon
WR: O. Beckham, T. Hilton, M. Thomas, T. Hill, A. Robinson, W. Snead, M. Williams, M. Mitchell, R. Anderson, K. White, J. Gordon
TE: J. Reed, Z. Miller, C. Clay, V. Davis
D/ST: Miami
K: N. Novak
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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby skip » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:49 am

WIZARD BEATZ wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:45 am
Ross over Lynch for me
Thanks for the comments back do far. Would you really take Ross as at 1.07 given my WRs? I just know he will never start for my team. Howard or RB seems more feasible to hit the field more often. My league does have unique 1pt for every 25ret yards, and I snagged Tyreek the Freak off waivers last season and he finished WR7 on the season in pts, behind OBJ (WR4) TY(WR5) and ahead of Michael Thomas(WR8). If Ross becomes a return specialist, I can see him being well worth the add since Tyreek will see harder coverage this season, and no kickoff duties.
I don't like Ross at all so definitely wouldn't be my choice. Just giving you advice to keep you from wasting that pick on Lynch. I am not expecting him to make it thru any more than half of 2017 and be relatively ineffective even when he does play. There are a lot of cheaper options out there I'd rather try to obtain. Someone like Blount should have a much better year at a lower cost.
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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby WIZARD BEATZ » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:53 am

I would pick Lynch over most of the guys left, except that O.J. Howard is a generational talent that would be hard to pass up, and Ross is the fastest person in the history of the NFL (though I don't know if that will translate to fantasy stats). And you also need a QB.
Some good points in here, and worth the consideration. As for the QB comment: Stafford age 29 - 356.78pts last season - Finished QB7, Bortles age 25 - 349.6pts last season - Finished QB9. While one of the least popular QBs, Bortles is still productive, granted his workload goes down with LF now leading the show in JAX. Goff is a wait and see candidate with a new head coach and his draft pedigree, I am still inclined to sit on him this season to see if the kid has what it takes.
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QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford, B. Bortles, J. Goff
RB: M. Gordon, J. Howard, J. Ajayi, A. Abdullah, B. Powell, T. West, J. McKinnon
WR: O. Beckham, T. Hilton, M. Thomas, T. Hill, A. Robinson, W. Snead, M. Williams, M. Mitchell, R. Anderson, K. White, J. Gordon
TE: J. Reed, Z. Miller, C. Clay, V. Davis
D/ST: Miami
K: N. Novak
Picks 1.07, 2.07, 3.07 (3 Round Draft)

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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby Goddard » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:54 am

Guys like Murray and McCoy are 2 years younger and can probably be had for the 1.07 and maybe something smaller on top. Or even younger players like Lamar Miller, Crowell, and Hyde shouldn't cost you that much more than the 1.07 (maybe add your 2nd). I'd much rather have any of those players, even if it meant adding something else, than taking Lynch that early.

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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby WIZARD BEATZ » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:03 am

I don't like Ross at all so definitely wouldn't be my choice. Just giving you advice to keep you from wasting that pick on Lynch. I am not expecting him to make it thru any more than half of 2017 and be relatively ineffective even when he does play. There are a lot of cheaper options out there I'd rather try to obtain. Someone like Blount should have a much better year at a lower cost.
Thanks, I dig the ideas and that is what the post is up for. I still don't quite agree, as I think the time off has helped him recover his body, ala AP when he had a season off. I also lived in Oakland the better part of the last 5 years, and know that when he takes the field during home town games, that place will be electric and he will put on a show for that crowd. He has always been a player that puts in the work, and has been healthy and well conditioned for most of his career, despite high carries. Although people see him as just a power back, he's kind of unique in the way he runs and his wide stance, that he never gives defenders a square shot against him being quite elusive for his size. Also that line in Oakland is great, they have to respect the receivers and Carr, and we know Lynch has great hands. I see him staying healthy after his time off and great Oline, and outproducing a subpar RB like Lat Murray who put up great numbers, but lacked ball carrier vision and missed holes for days.
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QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford, B. Bortles, J. Goff
RB: M. Gordon, J. Howard, J. Ajayi, A. Abdullah, B. Powell, T. West, J. McKinnon
WR: O. Beckham, T. Hilton, M. Thomas, T. Hill, A. Robinson, W. Snead, M. Williams, M. Mitchell, R. Anderson, K. White, J. Gordon
TE: J. Reed, Z. Miller, C. Clay, V. Davis
D/ST: Miami
K: N. Novak
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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby WIZARD BEATZ » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:11 am

Guys like Murray and McCoy are 2 years younger and can probably be had for the 1.07 and maybe something smaller on top. Or even younger players like Lamar Miller, Crowell, and Hyde shouldn't cost you that much more than the 1.07 (maybe add your 2nd). I'd much rather have any of those players, even if it meant adding something else, than taking Lynch that early.
Funny you mention Hyde and Crow, as I drafted both of them last season in our initial dynasty start. I managed to trade both of them away at high points last year, when my late draft (or free) guys like Ajayi, Howard, and West were performing well.

I actually tried to buy back Hyde already, since he is being undervalued. I offered the 1.07 for Hyde and his 2.01, which he declined. I could of sweetened the deal a bit, but this guy is brutal to trade with and never counter offers. McCoy I had a shot at mid last year, but passed it up (had I taken it I would of won the championship as M. Gordon got hurt and my players underperformed in the playoffs). I know my buddy will not let go of McCoy as he's thin at RB right now.

I like the idea of some of the other backs you mentioned, prying them away from these owners are like pulling teeth though
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QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford, B. Bortles, J. Goff
RB: M. Gordon, J. Howard, J. Ajayi, A. Abdullah, B. Powell, T. West, J. McKinnon
WR: O. Beckham, T. Hilton, M. Thomas, T. Hill, A. Robinson, W. Snead, M. Williams, M. Mitchell, R. Anderson, K. White, J. Gordon
TE: J. Reed, Z. Miller, C. Clay, V. Davis
D/ST: Miami
K: N. Novak
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Re: BEASTMODE at 1.07?!

Postby jcc6fd » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:14 am

Goddard wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:54 am Guys like Murray and McCoy are 2 years younger and can probably be had for the 1.07 and maybe something smaller on top. Or even younger players like Lamar Miller, Crowell, and Hyde shouldn't cost you that much more than the 1.07 (maybe add your 2nd). I'd much rather have any of those players, even if it meant adding something else, than taking Lynch that early.
First of all, McCoy is worth more than all of those younger guys and you're not touching him for less than an early first. I doubt you'd get Murray for the 1.07 either.

Secondly 1.07 for Lynch isn't insane. If you doubt his ability to return at full effectiveness that's warranted, but there's a reasonable belief that he could be an RB1 this year. Even if he's older that production could make him worth more than anyone you get in the late first. I'd feel more comfortable getting him in the early second (he won't last longer) so I'd advise against taking him at 1.07. Just thought someone needed to speak out regarding the reality of Lynch's rookie draft capital. Not only will it be impossible to get him in the 3rd but that's also severely undervaluing him.
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