Startup Strategy

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Re: Startup Strategy

Postby cweds » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:21 pm

Tsunami wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:10 pm I would say that is definitely worth it in a 10-12 team league.
Nice to hear some support, I just pulled the trigger. The deal ended up being my 1.04, 6.09, 10.09 for 2.06, 4.06, 6.06 and a 2018 1st. It's a 12 team league, half ppr, 4 pt pass td, starting: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 3FLEX, 1TE, 1K, 1DST. The 3 flex spots makes the deal even more valuable to me cause RB/WR depth will be even more important
Team 1 (3rd Season):
12 team 6pts all TDs/.5ppr
Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE,FLEX
24 Man Active Roster
QB: Wilson, Wentz
RB: Freeman, D. Cook, Jamal Williams, Carson, AP, Lindsay, RJ
WR: Adams, T. Hill, Thielen, M. Bryant, Golladay, Trequan Smith, Pettis, MVS, J'mon Moore, C. Williams
TE: Olsen, Gescicki, Ebron, J. Smith
2019: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th

Team 2 (2nd season):
12 team 4pt Pass TDs/.5ppr
Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE,3FLEX
25 Man Active Roster/3 IR spots
QB: Mariota, Roethlisberger, Trubisky
RB: DJ, Guice, Penny, Royce Freeman, Conner, Carson, Kelly, Dixon, Morris
WR: Allen, JJSS, Landry, Robinson, Watkins, Godwin, Callaway, Allison, Doctson, J. Moore, MVS
TE: Kelce, Njoku

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Re: Startup Strategy

Postby Vcize » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:20 am

It's fair according to startup pick value.

Personally I would have passed. Using ADP and just assuming the 6th round picks are a wash that's Zeke and Treadwell for Dez, Tyreek, and 2018 1st. Seems light for Zeke.
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RB: Barkley, Mixon, Jav Williams, Pierce, Drake
WR: Jefferson, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Hopkins, Peoples-Jones
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Re: Startup Strategy

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:28 am

Any strategy will work if you pick the right players.

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Re: Startup Strategy

Postby KenAndTonic » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:28 am

I personally don't like to make too many trades in a startup until at least a few rounds in and I can begin to see how teams are strategies are shaping up (a big reason why I prefer slow drafts). the best strategy with trades, however, is to only offer up fair ones and don't be afraid to slightly overpay if there is someone you really like that you notice is dropping. Assuming this is a league that will stick together for a while, developing that reputation as being a fair owner will help in the long-run. No body wants to trade with the guy that is constantly offering up garbage, even if/when a fair one does come across.
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QB - Joe Burrow, Jared Goff, Drew Lock
RB - Melvin Gordon, James White, JK Dobbins, Nyheim Hines
WR - AJ Brown, Dionae Johnson, AJ Green, Curtis Samuel, Brandin Cooks, Michael Pittman
TE - Austin Hooper, OJ Howard

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QB - Desean Watson, Carson Wentz, Drew Lock
RB - Melvin Gordon, JK Dobbins, JD McKissic, Tarik Cohen
WR - DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Tyler Lockett, Sammy Watkins, Brandin Cooks, Emmanuel Sanders
TE - Junno Smith, Evan Engram

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Re: Startup Strategy

Postby dlf_jules » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:11 pm

Dynasty24 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:21 pm I just pulled the trigger. The deal ended up being my 1.04, 6.09, 10.09 for 2.06, 4.06, 6.06 and a 2018 1st. It's a 12 team league, half ppr, 4 pt pass td, starting: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 3FLEX, 1TE, 1K, 1DST. The 3 flex spots makes the deal even more valuable to me cause RB/WR depth will be even more important
I like the move, and I would keep trading back to acquire more 1sts. You should be able to turn 2.06 and 4.06 into another three 2018 1sts, at least. Four 1sts for Zeke is an outstanding haul.
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Re: Startup Strategy

Postby cweds » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:47 pm

dlf_jules wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:11 pm
Dynasty24 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:21 pm I just pulled the trigger. The deal ended up being my 1.04, 6.09, 10.09 for 2.06, 4.06, 6.06 and a 2018 1st. It's a 12 team league, half ppr, 4 pt pass td, starting: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 3FLEX, 1TE, 1K, 1DST. The 3 flex spots makes the deal even more valuable to me cause RB/WR depth will be even more important
I like the move, and I would keep trading back to acquire more 1sts. You should be able to turn 2.06 and 4.06 into another three 2018 1sts, at least. Four 1sts for Zeke is an outstanding haul.
How many picks would you move down from 2.06 to equal a 2018 first roughly?
Team 1 (3rd Season):
12 team 6pts all TDs/.5ppr
Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE,FLEX
24 Man Active Roster
QB: Wilson, Wentz
RB: Freeman, D. Cook, Jamal Williams, Carson, AP, Lindsay, RJ
WR: Adams, T. Hill, Thielen, M. Bryant, Golladay, Trequan Smith, Pettis, MVS, J'mon Moore, C. Williams
TE: Olsen, Gescicki, Ebron, J. Smith
2019: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th

Team 2 (2nd season):
12 team 4pt Pass TDs/.5ppr
Start QB,2RB,2WR,TE,3FLEX
25 Man Active Roster/3 IR spots
QB: Mariota, Roethlisberger, Trubisky
RB: DJ, Guice, Penny, Royce Freeman, Conner, Carson, Kelly, Dixon, Morris
WR: Allen, JJSS, Landry, Robinson, Watkins, Godwin, Callaway, Allison, Doctson, J. Moore, MVS
TE: Kelce, Njoku

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Re: Startup Strategy

Postby Factory of Sadness » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:16 pm

I'm increasingly open-minded going into a start-up as to how I will play it. In a perfect world I trade down for picks and hoover up young talent, especially at WR. Increasingly though, that's what everyone is trying to do. If I think a league is under-valuing RBs, I'll go there. If it's older players left out there, I'll take those. Basically I'm looking for an edge.
One reason I love SuperFlex so much is that all of the drafts are unpredictable to a degree. There will be a QB run or two and if you judge it wrong, you're screwed. Value is always in flux through the first few rounds and people panic. Regular leagues tend to be more predictable.
The biggest thing I do differently now than when I started is to take my guys. If I have to pay to get a guy I love and the price is bearable, I'll do it. If I've missed my tier and other people are valuing the pick because their guy is there, I'll trade down.

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Re: Startup Strategy

Postby colonnaj94 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:40 pm

Just browsing through this is pretty helpful! I have a start up that starts tomorrow. Most of my previous drafts were auctions, which made things a bit different. I have completed 2 start up drafts in the past few years, and my first one went horribly wrong.. I had to trade out of terrifying mess that I created, and 1 year later, I have a team ready to compete (team 1 in signature) I went need over BPA in that draft. I realize now that was a Big mistake. This time I'm going to learn from my mistake, draft BPA, trade for need later. Good info!
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