5 Year Dynasty Strategy

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5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby Snidely1Whiplash » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:55 am

Hey guys (first post!),

5 year dynasty startup in two weeks. SF, .5 ppr, 23 roster spots, start qb/ 2 wr/ 2 rb/ te/ 2 flex/ 1 sf/ def.

What's your auction strategy? Does the 5 year idea change your opinions whatsoever?

Thanks!

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Re: 5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby jnappy » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:42 pm

I would say it doesn't change it a lot for me. I'm not usually considering guys past 3ish years anyways. I would say this devalues QBs SLIGHTLY for me in a SF. I typically get two QBs with my first two picks then another by round 4-5, but in this I may grab one stud RB/WR first then start that strategy. That's the only thing I'd do differently though.
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Re: 5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby moishetreats » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:14 pm

There is a HUGE change: don't buy rookie QBs, WRs, or TEs at their usual prices. They usually take a couple of years (or so) to develop, but they have worth in typical dynasty leagues because they tend to hold their value for a year or two. Unless they come much cheaper, let other guys bid on them.

For RBs, you can invest as usual in the ones that you think will be legit starters out of the gate. Otherwise, pass on them, too.

One other note: in most dynasty leagues, you can usually trade a mid- to late rookie pick for a win-now veteran. I imagine that will be harder. In, say, year 3, who cares about a 2nd- or 3rd-round rookie pick? Keep the moderately-producing veteran. Thus, guys like, say, D. Murray might cost more in the last couple of years of the league than in typical dynasty leagues.
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TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

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Re: 5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby dlf_jaronf » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:09 am

Snidely1Whiplash wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:55 am Hey guys (first post!),

5 year dynasty startup in two weeks. SF, .5 ppr, 23 roster spots, start qb/ 2 wr/ 2 rb/ te/ 2 flex/ 1 sf/ def.

What's your auction strategy? Does the 5 year idea change your opinions whatsoever?

Thanks!
Welcome to the forum!

My auction strategies vary depending on league scoring, lineups and contracts (if applicable). In .5 PPR where you start at least 2 RBs, I'd give extra emphasis to securing a strong RB duo. In SF, QBs will likely fly off the board early and at a high cost. While I wouldn't want to miss out on solid QB production, I'd pump the brakes on feeding into bidding wars for the stud QBs. Be sure to figure out how much you want to pay for any given player/position before the draft, and while it's important to be flexible during the draft as the market dictates pricing, don't stray too far from your board early on.

Good luck and enjoy!

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Re: 5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby thebeast » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:12 am

Welcome to the forum. Sorry to be a jerk, but I don't think that's a dynasty league.

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Re: 5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby mratlanta » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:52 am

thebeast wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:12 am Welcome to the forum. Sorry to be a jerk, but I don't think that's a dynasty league.
I agree. A league with 5 year contracts is one thing, but a league that ends in 5 years is not dynasty.
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Re: 5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby ArrylT » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:56 pm

Why not? There are a lot of people who look at dynasty value in 3 year, 2 year & 1+ year windows, so why is this not considered a subsection of dynasty?

A sports dynasty is a team or individual that dominates their league or sport for an extended period of time. 5 years is an extended period of time, so if an owner can win multiple championships in the 5 year window - are they not a dynasty?

https://dynastyleaguefootball.com/dynas ... -football/

Says nothing about dynasty has to exist for X number of years to qualify as a dynasty league.

I am curious to know what happens at the end of 5 years - do you reboot the league and start over with the player pool or does the league simply end?
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: 5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby Snidely1Whiplash » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:25 pm

Haha. It doesn't make you a jerk, but I'm not sure what the point of your post is. Who cares what we call it?

At the end of the 5 years we will reboot with a new startup. Perhaps at that time it will become a full dynasty league.

If you were in a 5 year league with these roster sizes, what % of your budget would you be willing to spend on a top tier qb? What about rb?

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Re: 5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby sugbear65 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:16 pm

I'd likely just treat it like a redraft basically, go all in from the door and try to win the first couple years. I'd try to net as many possible studs regardless of age with your auction money as possible, and fill in the rest with $1 players that you think hold the most trade appeal.
I will say I hope you know the group you are getting into this league with fairly well. If they aren't super committed to the format, i could def see a few teams dropping out by year 4 & 5 if things aren't looking promising for them. There's no incentive to stay if you know you can't turn your team around in the set timeframe.

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Re: 5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby Snidely1Whiplash » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:43 pm

Yep, it's a group of buddies. We also used this pay structure to assist with longevity:
Year 1:$200
Year 2:$200
Year 3:$100
Year 4&5:$0

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Re: 5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby sugbear65 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:52 pm

Snidely1Whiplash wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:43 pm Yep, it's a group of buddies. We also used this pay structure to assist with longevity:
Year 1:$200
Year 2:$200
Year 3:$100
Year 4&5:$0
Nice foresight, seems like you guys got it covered. Good luck!

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Re: 5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby broncohead » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:58 pm

Like another poster mentioned I'd follow more of a redraft format. I'd probably skip guys that have shown obvious signs of decline
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QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
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Re: 5 Year Dynasty Strategy

Postby ArrylT » Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:02 pm

I personally dont do auction dynasty at this time so I cannot give budgeting advice. I'd want to ensure I had 2 top quality QBs and a 3rd with good upside. If it is auction and a 5 year window - I can see top level guys at each position commanding premiums - players like Luck/Winston, Bell/DJ, Evans/Julio - basically any players you can project having at least 3 top tier years of the next 5 - especially at the QB position. I'd probably punt TE and just go waiver / upside there considering you'd only need 1 per year - let others spend $ on this years rookie class and just pick up a Witten/Gates type each year.
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