Enunwa Value

[lukkynumber13]

I would EASILY pay as much as an early 2nd for him.

I wouldn't sell for less than the 1.10 or so

[Slevin Kelevra]

Enunwa had 869 yards last year with atrocious QB play and more competition for targets/touches. What reason would anyone have to believe he would be worse?

That fact that Brandon Marshall was the one covered by the opponents best CB & drawing double coverage.

[lukkynumber13]

Enunwa will have a line of at least 55-700-4 this year. WORST case scenario assuming health.

Best case, he gets 80-1150-10

Overall, I would set his line over/under @: 65-825-6 for a 16-game season

[Chris_R]

Enunwa had 869 yards last year with atrocious QB play and more competition for targets/touches. What reason would anyone have to believe he would be worse?

That fact that Brandon Marshall was the one covered by the opponents best CB & drawing double coverage.

Yes. Again, leaving a ton of targets and looks. It isn't like if a team has no true #1 WR their entire offense shuts down and nobody is able to produce. Do you think those 60 catches and 800 yards just evaporate? I'm not projecting him to go nuts but it's not a good bet to bank on him to have worse numbers, that probably has a very low probability of happening.

[StableOfRBs]

McCown has been over 2K yards in only 3 of his 13 seasons in the NFL (had 1 in the UFL) and has never had more than 2511 in 2004 when he played 14 games, which is like 2870 in 16 games, for Enunwa to have 1000 yards with 16 games of McCown he'd have to had like a 35% yard share which is ridiculous

2004 was Larry Fitzgerald's rookie year and on 115 targets he had 58 catches for 780 yards, 674 of which were from McCown for a 27% yard share

Enunwa: 6'2, 225, 4.44s 40
Fitz: 6'3, 225, 4.48s 40

physically their very similar but Fitz is a much better receiver than Enunwa, even as a rookie, and even HE couldn't manage the kind of % of McCown's yardage in his BEST season needed to get to 1000 yards, so my hopes for Enunwa doing it are very low, especially since McCown is going to be 38 and is even more likely to get hurt sometime this season

[FiremanEd]

I am truly surprised by some of this optimism, as I know everyone will laugh when Hackenberg steps into a game and is unable to hit the broad side of a barn. Hackenberg in no way will be able to support a fantasy relevant WR, and no one will be willing to count on him even if he can do it the odd game.

Outside of Hackenberg, whom no one wants to bank on, you have McCown who won't last the full season, and Petty is failes to inspire much confidence last year when he played even when we had garbage time involved. Last I checked, QB play matters for WRs, and while Fitz was bad, these guys have done a lot less in their careers. TDs will not be plentiful.

After next years terribleness you're then hoping on a rookie, with a not good team around him. Also somewhat hopeful to support a 1K WR, and unlikely to give hefty TD totals. He may go somewhere nicer, but it will be as a WR2 on the roster and Of unknown proficiency.

Overall, as more than a WR4 I am hesitant. I like enunwa and agree he's the Jets top option now, but it just seems very optimistic to assume them sucking means fantasy relevance due to volume and garbage time, discounting how truly terrible the pieces around him will be.

[HereForTheComments]

I am truly surprised by some of this optimism, as I know everyone will laugh when Hackenberg steps into a game and is unable to hit the broad side of a barn. Hackenberg in no way will be able to support a fantasy relevant WR, and no one will be willing to count on him even if he can do it the odd game.

outaise of Hackenberg, whom no one wants to bank on, you have McCown who won't last the full season, and Petty is failes to inspire much confidence last year when he played even when we had garbage time involved. Last I checked, QB play matters for WRs, and while Fitz was bad, these guys have done a lot less in their careers. TDs will not be plentiful.

After next years terribleness you're then hoping on a rookie, with a not good team around him. Also somewhat hopeful to support a 1K WR, and unlikely to give hefty TD totals. He may go somewhere nicer, but it will be as a WR2 on the roster and if I k own proficiency.

Overall, as more than a WR4 I am hesitant. I like enunwa and agree he's the Jets top option now, but it just seems very optimistic to assume them sucking means fantasy relevance due to volume and garbage time, discounting how truly terrible the pieces around him will be.

I don't think there is anything wrong on having optimism for a player who is projected to receive 120+ targets in a season. Are you telling me that you were confident Ryan Fitzpatrick was going to support a top 5 WR and also another 1k WR during his first year with the Jets in 2015? I have a hard time believing you if you try to claim you were.

Point is, fantasy football is a gamble, and I would rather gamble a 2nd round pick on a guy who is projected to be very involved, than use it on a guy who doesn't have a defined role, at this time. The odds Enunwa is a top 30 WR is much greater than the odds of someone you draft in the 2nd round.

[FiremanEd]

Your reference ignore Brandon Marshall and/or Eric Decker can Enunwa. I like Enunwa, but there is a difference. There is also a difference with Fitz vs Petty/Hackenberg. If McCown stays healthy perhaps.

I'm also not saying Enunwa isn't worth a second, I'm saying the production value is optimistic. A 2nd is fine and a push to see what happens. But I'm pessimistic on the 1K 'just because volume'.

[Chris_R]

Your reference ignore Brandon Marshall and/or Eric Decker can Enunwa. I like Enunwa, but there is a difference. There is also a difference with Fitz vs Petty/Hackenberg. If McCown stays healthy perhaps.

I'm also not saying Enunwa isn't worth a second, I'm saying the production value is optimistic. A 2nd is fine and a push to see what happens. But I'm pessimistic on the 1K 'just because volume'.

It's not "just because volume". He put up 900 yards already. This isn't a guy with zero production and everyone is completely guessing. It's a far bigger stretch to assume he'll get 600 yards with all those additional targets then it is to assume he can get an extra 130 yards with more looks.

[remedy29]

McCown has been over 2K yards in only 3 of his 13 seasons in the NFL (had 1 in the UFL) and has never had more than 2511 in 2004 when he played 14 games, which is like 2870 in 16 games, for Enunwa to have 1000 yards with 16 games of McCown he'd have to had like a 35% yard share which is ridiculous

2004 was Larry Fitzgerald's rookie year and on 115 targets he had 58 catches for 780 yards, 674 of which were from McCown for a 27% yard share

Enunwa: 6'2, 225, 4.44s 40
Fitz: 6'3, 225, 4.48s 40

physically their very similar but Fitz is a much better receiver than Enunwa, even as a rookie, and even HE couldn't manage the kind of % of McCown's yardage in his BEST season needed to get to 1000 yards, so my hopes for Enunwa doing it are very low, especially since McCown is going to be 38 and is even more likely to get hurt sometime this season

I am a Jets fan, but do not think Enunwa is very talented. I see him as a big slot WR only, don't think he can get open in 2 WR sets. I'm sure he will see plenty of playing time in 3 WR sets, so that may be a moot point.

However, you can not compare Enunwa playing with McCown vs Fitzpatrick playing with McCown. 2017 NFL is nothing like 2004 NFL, they are not even remotely the same game. Today's NFL stinks in comparison.

So yes, in 2017, the year of immense garbage time fantasy points, Enunwa can put up good numbers.

[HereForTheComments]

Your reference ignore Brandon Marshall and/or Eric Decker can Enunwa. I like Enunwa, but there is a difference. There is also a difference with Fitz vs Petty/Hackenberg. If McCown stays healthy perhaps.

I'm also not saying Enunwa isn't worth a second, I'm saying the production value is optimistic. A 2nd is fine and a push to see what happens. But I'm pessimistic on the 1K 'just because volume'.

Glad half empty vs glass half full...

I think you are focusing on the 1k yards and ignoring the fact that almost everyone has stated he is worth only a 2nd round pick. If you agree buying him for a 2nd is "fine", then you basically agree with what most are saying. The question that was posed had to do with his value...

[Space Cowboy]

Look at what Hopkins did two years ago. ARob and Hurns had success too with bad QB play. Britt and Pryor went over 1,000.

Enunwa will be a high end WR3.

[spartan833]

I am with lukky here. I was asked what I would move him for and I said early second, but I like his catch radius and physical traits. Why would I move him for a gamble? I love that there is such a varied opinion on him. Makes it easier for me to acquire him and easier for others to move him.

I would EASILY pay as much as an early 2nd for him.

I wouldn't sell for less than the 1.10 or so

[TheDogPound]

He's a very intriguing prospect. The arguments among the fantasy community vary between him being riddled with targets to considering his talent.

I think I'd lean to hold, give him a few games and see how he performs. A few big games and his value rises!

[Shcritters]

Enunwa will have a line of at least 55-700-4 this year. WORST case scenario assuming health.

Best case, he gets 80-1150-10

Overall, I would set his line over/under @: 65-825-6 for a 16-game season

I'll take the over on that pretty easily.