Drafting Pairs or Same Team

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Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby Servo » Mon May 22, 2017 6:20 am

In one of my Superflex leagues, I accumulated a few picks over the last two years in this 2017 draft but I have somewhat of a conundrum.........are you okay with drafting pairs or loading up on one particular team?

For example:

I already have Will Fuller, but I'm confident that Watson (I need a QB) and Foreman (who is my RB crush) would be available for me to select. Not saying I'm deadset on Watson but if he's there I'd consider.

I already have Rivers and Hunter Henry, should I draft Mike Williams?

Drafting Mixon and subsequently John Ross (who I could see falling in our draft)

Drafting McCaffrey and Samuel

Drafting Njoku and Kizer

How do you all feel about this? Are you going to pass over Best Player Avail if it happens to work out this way?

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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby onetwothree » Mon May 22, 2017 6:42 am

Draft BPA. Most offenses should be able to sustain multiple options. I won't seek to pair up guys but if the board falls a certain way and they are the best guys left, sure.

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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby prinefan » Mon May 22, 2017 6:56 am

onetwothree wrote: Mon May 22, 2017 6:42 am Draft BPA. Most offenses should be able to sustain multiple options. I won't seek to pair up guys but if the board falls a certain way and they are the best guys left, sure.
This. But contingent on the multiple players. Bear in mind that if that offense has a bad day you could screw yourself out of a potential win. So with that said, I wouldn't get too many Houston players. Borderline on Cincy because of their offensive line. I'd love to have multiple Chargers. Borderline on Carolina. Kizer and Njoku would be fine with me since they'll be playing from behind a lot. Bottom line-BPA is always best.

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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby IR1 » Mon May 22, 2017 7:04 am

I'll stay BPA, but if have players on same level will fill team need- avoiding same team avoids bad weeks and bye week issues
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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby sloth8u » Mon May 22, 2017 8:06 am

there are a few threads on "the stack" it works and i'll leave it at that. if a guy were to draft watson (long term), own nuk, and fuller (whatever wr's)...he will make the playoffs/contend by default...but you need to go get nuk before drafting watson. the rbs are independant.....if i were to take a rb, it would have no bearing of team make up. peyton often times had some great fantasy rb's.

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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby dlf_jules » Mon May 22, 2017 8:32 am

sloth8u wrote: Mon May 22, 2017 8:06 am there are a few threads on "the stack" it works and i'll leave it at that.
Here's one: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=50829&p=439499#p439499
And another: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=108202
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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby skip » Mon May 22, 2017 8:53 am

I'd need to see a study on the idea of a "stack" somehow providing a better overall strategy to the game than some anecdotal notations.

It's not that it can't work... But is it an advisable strategy?
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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby maxhyde » Mon May 22, 2017 9:18 am

It doesn't bother me stacking or having multiple players from the same team. I just get players I like or that I think are good and the rest sorts itself out.
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QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby bormalis » Mon May 22, 2017 10:11 am

think its fine to have players of same team. Still have time to make moves before season and teams that have an elite offense will have multiple playable starters.

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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby BuckeyeNation » Mon May 22, 2017 10:17 am

I don't worry about it, I just draft BPA. Given how horrible the situation appears to be, here's the best example I could give; The Jets offense is terrible yet I still drafted Ardarius Stewart because I felt he was BPA , even though I already had Enunwa/Robby Anderson/Forte on my roster.
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Ben
Freeman/Cook/Hyde/Crowell/AP/Rawls/JWill(GB)/Gallman/Vereen/Smallwood/Clement
Julio/Jordy/Crowder/Enunwa/JuJu/Zay/Treadwell/JJNelson/Anderson/Switzer
Olsen/Graham/Gathers/Kittle

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Luck/Cousins
Bell/Hunt/Gillislee/Henry/Charles/Rawls/Burkhead
Brown/Jordy/Tate/Moncrief/Enunwa/Meredith/Zay/JJNelson/Anderson/Stewart
Olsen/Ebron/Henry

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'13-'15 R/U
Cam/Smith/Trubisky
Zeke/CJA/Montgomery/Ware/Charles/Booker/Burk/Smallwood/Cohen
Brown/Hilton/Diggs/Marvin/Pryor/Parker/Maclin/Meredith/JJNelson
Reed/Doyle/Miller/Gathers

-TEAM 4- Year 3
Wilson/Mariota
Ajayi/Howard/Hyde/Riddick/Vereen/Burk/Clement
OBJ/ARob/MThomas/Landry/Adams/Crowder/MJones/White/Lee/Samuel
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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby spotxc » Mon May 22, 2017 1:34 pm

How about a Keenan/Mike Will combo..Tyrell lovers will preach he's the wr1 there, but having mike will as keenan ins (if you believe in keenan) in addition to their stand alone productions isn't bad

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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon May 22, 2017 2:32 pm

I have no scientific data to support this, but the only stacks I actively target are QB/WR or QB/TE stacks (maybe QB/pass-catching RB would be okay also). My reasoning is that QB passing TD/RB rushing TDs negate each other in that while a truly great offense could support both, the two types of TDs cannibalize the total production from the stack. On the other hand, a Rodgers/Jordy stack or a Brady/Gronk stack nets you double points for any TDs scored by those two players and can therefore put you up in a big way any given week.
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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby spotxc » Mon May 22, 2017 2:45 pm

^Thats always been one theory that people preach..works pretty well sometimes

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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby James McGhee » Mon May 22, 2017 4:15 pm

Matt Ryan / Julio Jones was a good combo last year
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QB/RB/2 WR/TE/2 FLX/K/DEF

Tom Brady, Cam Newton
Mark Ingram, Kerryon Johnson, Rashaad Penny, Ronald Jones
AJ Green, Keenan Allen, Michael Thomas, Marvin Jones, Golden Tate, Keelan Cole
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Re: Drafting Pairs or Same Team

Postby sloth8u » Tue May 23, 2017 6:18 am

skip wrote: Mon May 22, 2017 8:53 am I'd need to see a study on the idea of a "stack" somehow providing a better overall strategy to the game than some anecdotal notations.

It's not that it can't work... But is it an advisable strategy?
im not a charts type of guy, but i'll try to throw something together when i have the time. who would you like to see. stafford, tate, jones/riddick? smith, kelce, maclin/hill? give me a qb and his top 2 targets and i'll do the work of camparing that stack to some "stud options" and see how that would compare on a weekly basis. rivers, williams, te? bortles, arob, lee?

the stack is common in dfs, and essentially we do play dfs every sunday. if you look in to that concept....you'll find how this "works" if you will. will this work with the worse offense's???? i dont know foresure....but i would be willing to stack any if they are competent.

its not advised in non ppr with the wr's... you simply leave the ppr out....and you can see how this would make a difference. it does make the ppr backs golden though if you were to stack them with the qb. your normal 6 pts for the rb turns into another 4-6 for the qb. the 8 pt play turns into a 15 pt play in a hurry.


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