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JFever wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:48 pm Maclin is severely undervalued by many. I recently offered him straight up for M.Lynch and was declined. Lynch was his clear cut #4 or 5 rb. He could have used a boost at his #3 wr. Maclin was behind my Julio,AJG,B.Cooks,Jordy starting line up. He just needs a couple good to decent games to remind the fantasy community that he can put up wr 2-3 type #'s

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:35 am ...he manages to evade defenders just the same. I enjoy watching him run.

Valhalla wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:05 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:35 am ...he manages to evade defenders just the same. I enjoy watching him run.

Maybe it's partially the defenders evading him

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:28 am

Valhalla wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:05 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:35 am ...he manages to evade defenders just the same. I enjoy watching him run.

Maybe it's partially the defenders evading him

That'd be a bold strategy

Valhalla wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:03 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:28 am

Valhalla wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:05 am

Maybe it's partially the defenders evading him

That'd be a bold strategy

I heard it said of Peterson once (defenders scramble to get out of his way) and I just had to laugh. I wish I could find that quote but searching for it to no avail.

Balzac wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:47 am

JFever wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:48 pm Maclin is severely undervalued by many. I recently offered him straight up for M.Lynch and was declined. Lynch was his clear cut #4 or 5 rb. He could have used a boost at his #3 wr. Maclin was behind my Julio,AJG,B.Cooks,Jordy starting line up. He just needs a couple good to decent games to remind the fantasy community that he can put up wr 2-3 type #'s

I like when people try to use a trade they were rejected on to try and justify how underrated their guy is. Maclin is a good football player but his value is in the tank because of situation. Foreman>Maclin should be how they are valued. If Maclin was still on Philly with DeSaun next to him then ya he would be elite, but he has been passed around and Baltimore isnt a place for WRs to "emerge".

JFever wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:17 am

Balzac wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:47 am

JFever wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:48 pm Maclin is severely undervalued by many. I recently offered him straight up for M.Lynch and was declined. Lynch was his clear cut #4 or 5 rb. He could have used a boost at his #3 wr. Maclin was behind my Julio,AJG,B.Cooks,Jordy starting line up. He just needs a couple good to decent games to remind the fantasy community that he can put up wr 2-3 type #'s

I like when people try to use a trade they were rejected on to try and justify how underrated their guy is. Maclin is a good football player but his value is in the tank because of situation. Foreman>Maclin should be how they are valued. If Maclin was still on Philly with DeSaun next to him then ya he would be elite, but he has been passed around and Baltimore isnt a place for WRs to "emerge".

I like when people ignore the point of a post and quote it then spin it. I'm very aware of Maclin's role and.... his situation as the #1 target on the passing side of the Baltimore offense isn't a "bad" situation for what Maclin would be to most of our line ups. He is a GREAT wr 4, a decent wr3, and an absolute luxury as a bench / depth guy. THE point wasn't Maclin at all. Rather, the point was rb value and specifically from my post, M.Lynch's value. If you honestly think that Marshawn Lynch's dynasty value is the same as or greater than Maclin's, I'd say you have a screw loose. I never mentioned Foreman.

mclilj wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:36 am

JFever wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:17 am

Balzac wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:47 am

I like when people try to use a trade they were rejected on to try and justify how underrated their guy is. Maclin is a good football player but his value is in the tank because of situation. Foreman>Maclin should be how they are valued. If Maclin was still on Philly with DeSaun next to him then ya he would be elite, but he has been passed around and Baltimore isnt a place for WRs to "emerge".

I like when people ignore the point of a post and quote it then spin it. I'm very aware of Maclin's role and.... his situation as the #1 target on the passing side of the Baltimore offense isn't a "bad" situation for what Maclin would be to most of our line ups. He is a GREAT wr 4, a decent wr3, and an absolute luxury as a bench / depth guy. THE point wasn't Maclin at all. Rather, the point was rb value and specifically from my post, M.Lynch's value. If you honestly think that Marshawn Lynch's dynasty value is the same as or greater than Maclin's, I'd say you have a screw loose. I never mentioned Foreman.

Neither player is particularly desirable in dynasty but for this season at least Marshawn is a viable starter at RB so give me him. I imagine most people would agree. I think you're beating a dead horse, their difference in value is incredibly nominal. I'd roster Marshawn not Maclin though.

JFever wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:17 am

Balzac wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:47 am

JFever wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:48 pm Maclin is severely undervalued by many. I recently offered him straight up for M.Lynch and was declined. Lynch was his clear cut #4 or 5 rb. He could have used a boost at his #3 wr. Maclin was behind my Julio,AJG,B.Cooks,Jordy starting line up. He just needs a couple good to decent games to remind the fantasy community that he can put up wr 2-3 type #'s

I like when people try to use a trade they were rejected on to try and justify how underrated their guy is. Maclin is a good football player but his value is in the tank because of situation. Foreman>Maclin should be how they are valued. If Maclin was still on Philly with DeSaun next to him then ya he would be elite, but he has been passed around and Baltimore isnt a place for WRs to "emerge".

I like when people ignore the point of a post and quote it then spin it. I'm very aware of Maclin's role and.... his situation as the #1 target on the passing side of the Baltimore offense isn't a "bad" situation for what Maclin would be to most of our line ups. He is a GREAT wr 4, a decent wr3, and an absolute luxury as a bench / depth guy. THE point wasn't Maclin at all. Rather, the point was rb value and specifically from my post, M.Lynch's value. If you honestly think that Marshawn Lynch's dynasty value is the same as or greater than Maclin's, I'd say you have a screw loose. I never mentioned Foreman.

JFever wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:08 pm To each their own if you'd like to roster M.Lynch over J.Maclin. We are however, just so we are clear, discussing DYNASTY football, not a redraft league. The ADP and current rankings would completely contradict what you posted about player value. Seems to me like you may want to look things up from time to time. That information is accessible if you do a little clicking around.

As far as either player (Lynch or Maclin) being desirable. That is all relative and contingent on where your team is, at and how your roster is constructed, how big is your league, scoring, roster size, etc. I'll be clear and to the point. With Maclin, even his heaviest critics would likely agree, that he plays in the NFL for 2-3 more seasons or so as it is realistic. He'll never give you true wr1 production. He will however likely give you decent wr 3-4 and at times wr2 type games over the span of his remaining few years in the league. His situation in Baltimore is an improvement over his situation in KC so.... not sure why one would say his value is low because of his situation. He is clearly the #1 red-zone passing option. He is 29 years old so maybe we see his production slide a smidge to the wr3 -wr4ish type levels in the next couple - few years he plays. None the less, he has a role, he will score fantasy points, and, more importantly, he likely is in the league one or even two calendar years from today. Who is confident that Marshawn Lynch plays in the NFL at a fantasy productive rate in 2018 or 2019. NOT frickin me, that's for sure.

So far through 2 full games, Maclin has outscored Lynch. Both of these two players seem to be a bit TD dependent so far. I'd expect at the end of the 2017 season, Maclin outscores lynch though, particularly in ppr leagues. I'd also feel safe in assuming that in 2018, Maclin outscores Lynch in a landslide. I could care less about personal feelings and personal valuations of players. We all have players we like and don't like for that matter. But, lets try to base those evaluations on fact. Facts are that Maclin is a wr. Wr tend to play longer that rb, Maclin is 29 and Lynch is 31. If we are looking at points, Maclin has out scored Lynch thus far in two games - a trend that, imo, is likely to continue. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong... But- Who else is going to catch passes from Flaaco? Oakland's team is not built around the running game, although they do have a strong O-line, rather, it is D.Carr's team as they pass to set up the run, not the other way around.

I tried to acquire Lynch with the slight over pay of an offer (value wise, age wise, ADP wise ) - purely based off of the zero available rb talent in that league & because I wanted and thought I could afford rb depth - and my potential trade partner needed or could have used startable wr help, and an improvement over his current #3 wr. Lynch would have become my 4th or 5th rb and some depth insurance, J.Maclin would have been a nice production addition and would have or should have started for my trade partner. Maclin is my #5 wr on that team. He is who he is. I'm defending him, not because I'm in love with him, nor is he a central piece to my team, rather, I'm defending him purely based on common sense. Again, I never brought up anything to do with D.Foreman, so not sure why that was commented on in the post above, but.... Man it is quite obvious that based on production for a fantasy line up alone; J.Maclin is severely undervalued on these forums. And, if that trade would have went through my potential trade partner would have beat me in week #2's match up. He politely declined with a brief explanation as to why, which I respect, and....then I thanked him for getting back to me and for his explanation, then I beat him.

JFever wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:08 pm To each their own if you'd like to roster M.Lynch over J.Maclin. We are however, just so we are clear, discussing DYNASTY football, not a redraft league.