I always find it interesting to see where people rank the second year guys in relation to rookies? where do you guys see Perkins?
I got an offer for Perkins for my 2.09. Is Perkins really that much better than McNichols, Gallman, joe williams, Connor?
These are the guys still available in my league and my 2.09 pick is coming up -
Perkins versus rookies
Perkins versus rookies
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Re: Perkins versus rookies
As prospects, I like McNichols more than Perkins. However, any one of those RB's would be more valuable than the rest if an NFL coach named them the starter after the draft. I would take Perkins over 2.09, because it's a low investment for high opportunity. Even if Perkins sucks, you shouldn't care that you didn't get a late 2nd for him.
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My thought also was that Perkins in value is worth more than the 2.09
And my team lacks any depth at RB in that league. Thanks.
And my team lacks any depth at RB in that league. Thanks.
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Re: Perkins versus rookies
Dont like Perkins but he's worth more
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Re: Perkins versus rookies
At least Perkins is starting. The others need something to happen to have a chance at starting. Perkins pretty easily here.
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Re: Perkins versus rookies
No.smallxl wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2017 4:04 am I always find it interesting to see where people rank the second year guys in relation to rookies? where do you guys see Perkins?
I got an offer for Perkins for my 2.09. Is Perkins really that much better than McNichols, Gallman, joe williams, Connor?
These are the guys still available in my league and my 2.09 pick is coming up -
People fall in love with situations. Happens every year.
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One could also make the reverse argument and say "people fall in love with a name (or a rookie)". Look at the number of obvious trades giving up a top pick for an elite player that get posted on here and the pick owner is hesitant.Space Cowboy wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2017 9:03 am People fall in love with situations. Happens every year.
I'm not a Perkins fan but he was moved in my league for 2.03.
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Perkins' opportunity is what you HOPE for with the guys you mentioned.
He is most definitely worth more than any of them, unless you are convinced that one of them is a far superior talent. I do not believe that is the case here.
Keep Perkins.
He is most definitely worth more than any of them, unless you are convinced that one of them is a far superior talent. I do not believe that is the case here.
Keep Perkins.
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Re: Perkins versus rookies
Situation isn't everything, but when we're talking about a bunch of guys that are pretty much dart throws anyway a guy that will at least get a chance to start and prove it on the field is a pretty big head start.
There isn't a good hit rate on 4th/5th round RBs, even ones that get an opportunity to start. But I bet if we pulled out just that group of guys that went into a season as the lead back their hit rate would be quite a bit higher than the overall total of all 4th/5th round RBs. At least we already know that Perkins isn't going to follow the same path of Tyler Ervin and those guys that never really even get a chance.
There isn't a good hit rate on 4th/5th round RBs, even ones that get an opportunity to start. But I bet if we pulled out just that group of guys that went into a season as the lead back their hit rate would be quite a bit higher than the overall total of all 4th/5th round RBs. At least we already know that Perkins isn't going to follow the same path of Tyler Ervin and those guys that never really even get a chance.
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Re: Perkins versus rookies
Gallman has the exact opportunity Perkins has except Perkins has a year of NFL experience...makes him the favorite but by no means a lock. The GMen brought in Draughn that could end being a bigger role player than some may imagine and Vereen is healthy...overall Giants backfield is a mess but someone will get carries/rec there
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Re: Perkins versus rookies
Perkins is better than Gallman, Williams, and Conner.
Perkins and McNichols are close. McNichols may end up being the best of them all. He is a solid all-around back.
If I'm offered Perkins for 2.09, I'm taking it. None of the available rookie RBs are so much better that I want them over the combination of Perkins' skill set and established role.
Perkins and McNichols are close. McNichols may end up being the best of them all. He is a solid all-around back.
If I'm offered Perkins for 2.09, I'm taking it. None of the available rookie RBs are so much better that I want them over the combination of Perkins' skill set and established role.
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He's starting in certain packages. Shane Vereen will get a ton of work from certain formations and will almost certainly be the 3rd down back. Gallman's strengths line up perfectly with what the Giants want to do. Yes, Perkins is the starter today but I don't think that is a strong grip we're talking about. Best case scenario for Perkins in my mind is that he gets the larger percentage of the carries in a three headed committee.onetwothree wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2017 6:40 am At least Perkins is starting. The others need something to happen to have a chance at starting. Perkins pretty easily here.
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