Any hope for Maxx Williams?

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Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby adammc44 » Sat May 20, 2017 1:24 pm

Picked him up once I was out of playoff contention last year and dropped my defense. Also grabbed AJ Derby. I just traded Gronk and got Ertz back as part of that who I'm not that crazy about especially in non-ppr. Williams was pretty decently considered coming out and is only 23. Pitta is got to be on his last hip.

Saw a littler blurb about Derby, but nothing on Maxx. I will be curious to see if he generates some buzz in otas and camp because they didn't add anyone at receiver and Flacco has shown he loves to target the te if pitta gets hurt/falls off the age cliff.
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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat May 20, 2017 1:37 pm

I bought him with a future 4th. I'll gladly take a crack at a guy who was taken at 1.10 in my league's rookie draft just 2 years ago.

He's shown more than Treadwell, K. White, & Tyler Higbee
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
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BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby skip » Sat May 20, 2017 1:50 pm

It seems there is a lot of recent trends to not only chase TEs but chase them after multiple years in the league. If they haven't shown promise in the first couple years, it is doubtful they will. There are surely better options out there.
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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby ericanadian » Sat May 20, 2017 2:13 pm

skip wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 1:50 pm It seems there is a lot of recent trends to not only chase TEs but chase them after multiple years in the league. If they haven't shown promise in the first couple years, it is doubtful they will. There are surely better options out there.
I think Orange Julius, and the fact that TE is so lacking in elite options, are the reasons for that.
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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby Space Cowboy » Sat May 20, 2017 2:18 pm

Personally, no. Wasn't big on him coming out and he's face planted. I'm passing.

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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby Friction » Sat May 20, 2017 2:37 pm

Got to watch a ton of him in college as I attend a fair share of Gopher games. I thought he would carve out a decent role in the pros and i thought Baltimore was a good spot for him. Not sure why he has not been able to pass up the likes of Pitta and Crockett Gilmore, but i would only grab if it was like a fourth or so.
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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat May 20, 2017 2:48 pm

I fail to understand how Maxx Williams has "face planted" so far. He had a pretty solid rookie year, and then was injured last year.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby Concept Coop » Sat May 20, 2017 2:56 pm

skip wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 1:50 pm It seems there is a lot of recent trends to not only chase TEs but chase them after multiple years in the league. If they haven't shown promise in the first couple years, it is doubtful they will. There are surely better options out there.
I strongly disagree with this, at the TE spot. With Maxx in particular--he's played in 14 games and is only 23 YO. If you don't like his talent, of course he's given you no reason to change your mind. If you did at one point, however, it's a silly time to throw the towel in.

I like the kid and am targeting him in my deeper leagues.

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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby Concept Coop » Sat May 20, 2017 2:57 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 2:48 pm I fail to understand how Maxx Williams has "face planted" so far. He had a pretty solid rookie year, and then was injured last year.
Exactly.

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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby Space Cowboy » Sat May 20, 2017 3:12 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 2:48 pm I fail to understand how Maxx Williams has "face planted" so far. He had a pretty solid rookie year, and then was injured last year.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/ ... x-williams

Not a single good game despite next to no presence at TE and little to nothing at WR.

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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby Concept Coop » Sat May 20, 2017 3:23 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 3:12 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 2:48 pm I fail to understand how Maxx Williams has "face planted" so far. He had a pretty solid rookie year, and then was injured last year.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/ ... x-williams

Not a single good game despite next to no presence at TE and little to nothing at WR.
He was a 21 YO rookie TE who started 7 games, many with backup QBs. I mean, you're not wrong, but I don't put much stock in that, personally.

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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat May 20, 2017 3:23 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 3:12 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Sat May 20, 2017 2:48 pm I fail to understand how Maxx Williams has "face planted" so far. He had a pretty solid rookie year, and then was injured last year.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/ ... x-williams

Not a single good game despite next to no presence at TE and little to nothing at WR.
What kind of a bar do you use to judge rookie TEs?
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
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KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
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MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby Krang » Sat May 20, 2017 3:38 pm

He'd have to be pretty cheap/free for me to go after him, but if I've got a spare roster spot I'd be fine letting him sit for a bit longer to see what happens. It's pretty common knowledge that TEs have a long transition period into the pros and he essentially lost his 2nd year, so I'm cutting him some slack. Dude made a few pretty sick catches at MN, which doesn't make him a stud in the NFL, but it's enough to make him an end-of-bench flier for now imo.

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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat May 20, 2017 4:24 pm

Personally, I'd rather have Williams than any TE from this class after the top 3.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
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KELCE, Schultz
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Re: Any hope for Maxx Williams?

Postby Farley » Sun May 21, 2017 7:57 am

It's funny that there are many owners who refuse to even draft a tight end because of the long transition they face at the position in the NFL.
But when a tight end doesn't show much in his rookie year, many of these same owners wash their hands of him and label him a bust. Can't have it both ways. Either you need to be patient or you don't.


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