Josh Gordon Thread: Reinstatement (Deja Vu)
Re: Josh Gordon
It is crazy that he is so young. I will admit that I am still fairly concerned about longevity due to his off-field issues, but his talent is to big to ignore. If he does get his stuff together, those of us who scooped him up could be reaping the benefits for, literally, a decade or more to come though. Time will tell...
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An article is out explaining that his "automatic one year suspension" may likely be a myth.wingnutty wrote:It is crazy that he is so young. I will admit that I am still fairly concerned about longevity due to his off-field issues, but his talent is to big to ignore. If he does get his stuff together, those of us who scooped him up could be reaping the benefits for, literally, a decade or more to come though. Time will tell...
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2013/10/29 ... n-long-ban
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Re: Josh Gordon
sct wrote:An article is out explaining that his "automatic one year suspension" may likely be a myth.wingnutty wrote:It is crazy that he is so young. I will admit that I am still fairly concerned about longevity due to his off-field issues, but his talent is to big to ignore. If he does get his stuff together, those of us who scooped him up could be reaping the benefits for, literally, a decade or more to come though. Time will tell...
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2013/10/29 ... n-long-ban
This is very interesting. Thank you for posting. I wonder why none of the national sports media have picked up on this and at least looked into it further. I have always wondered why the NFL did reduce his suspension from 4 to 2 games. As the author stated, that is not easy to do. So Gordon may have been placed into Stage 2 upon entering the league based on his past behavior without ever testing positive on an NFL test. Then this past off-season he tested positive for codeine which resulted in the supension to begin this season. In other words, it is very possible Gordon has never tested positive for marijuana by the NFL and if he stays clean for 24 months from the date of the positive test for codeine, he would be removed from Stage 2. Once a player enters stage 3, it is permanent as I understand the guidelines of the program so the difference to Gordon(and fantasy owners) would be signifigant.
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Re: Josh Gordon
I picked him up for a dollar in FA money after our startup draft last year. Him and Julius Thomas have been my best FA pickups for a dollar
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Re: Josh Gordon
Are we all in consensus that he is worth a lot more than 1.01 next year? Even with his character issues?
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Definitely.balaberda wrote:Are we all in consensus that he is worth a lot more than 1.01 next year? Even with his character issues?
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Re: Josh Gordon
Absolutely. You can't predict off field stuff and injury. You also can't predict if that 1.01 pick or any other pick for that matter will produce a productive player (see T-Rich, j/k sort of). Based on his production and the fact he's roughly going to be in the same tier age wise as this years class makes him absolutely more valuable then any pick in the draft.balaberda wrote:Are we all in consensus that he is worth a lot more than 1.01 next year? Even with his character issues?
Would you trade Julio or AJG for the 1.1? What else do you need to see? Produces with avg QB (3 different QBs actually) play so I think its a fair assumption if the QB gets upgraded it helps. Monster target numbers, 6'4 200 plus pounds. Great in PPR and non PPR.
I think there is some sort of stigma attached with him being a "supplemental" pick. He was a high 2nd rd pick.
I said before I think he has everything on his side to be a cornerstone dynasty player to own and build your WR core with.
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Re: Josh Gordon
Got Gordon and two firsts (both pretty late in '13 and '14) for Mike Wallace and Daryl Richardson. Tough to say who won that deal.
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Re: Josh Gordon
Hmmm, I'd say you won that deal. Wallace is what I (and many others) thought he was - a one trick pony who is quite inconsistent and D.Richardson is currently a player with out a defined role. Gordon even with his perceived risk - is worth more than both those two alone. You basically got two free 1st round picks.
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Re: Josh Gordon
Really hoping Ken M updates his WR rankings for this site.
He has Gordon as 24th and Blackmon at 6th. Clearly these haven't been updated in a while. Once he does Gordon will be 7th right behind Marshall and maybe ahead of him.
Crazy!
He has Gordon as 24th and Blackmon at 6th. Clearly these haven't been updated in a while. Once he does Gordon will be 7th right behind Marshall and maybe ahead of him.
Crazy!
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Re: Josh Gordon
I grabbed Gordon in both redraft leagues I'm in this year, but I couldn't pry him from his owner in my dynasty league. I was throwing everything I could think of at him. Never getting him now ...
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Re: Josh Gordon
Until he get suspended again................
Re: Josh Gordon
Mhmmmm. Personally, if I had Josh Gordon, and I could sell him for top 5 WR value (which after reading this thread, and seeing early top 10 lists, MANY value him as such right now) I would milk this cow for all its worth. I understand that this is not the popular opinion at the moment, but this is exactly what I would do. Gordon is playing out of his mind right now, his value will never be higher than it is now. I am not at all the 'I told you so' type, I just view this the way I would view a stock. Gordon is a highly valuable, albeit highly volatile asset. You could very easily sell him and recieve a very nice prospect & multiple 1st round picks, or many other variations of valuable commodities. After seeing the unthinkable happen with Blackmon, I wouldn't be willing to play roulette with my team. I advise all of you to cash in your chips right now. Even if he never gets suspended, you are still going to get a huge return. Gordon will not be in my personal top 10 WR rankings, there is just wayyy too much risk for me here.nation31 wrote:Until he get suspended again................
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Re: Josh Gordon
If you are bent on selling, which I'm not, I would wait until the NFL draft to do it. When the Browns draft their QB of the future, both Gordon and Cameron's value is going to shoot even higher with the fact everyone is ALREADY imagining how good they would be with a legit QB.
Re: Josh Gordon
I 100% agree with Henry here. I dont think his value could go any higher than it is now? If trade deadlines arent reached yet and I owned Gordon--I would be trying to shop him hard--I would be trying to go after Julio---thinking that a Julio owner (if in contention) might be desperate enough to pull the trigger straight up for Gordon.
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