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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:03 am

dm1129 wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:23 pm Is the person telling you he is not worth the price point trying to trade you for him? Gurley is an excellent receiver, Jeff Fisher was terrible. The Rams' new coach seems to be very good at using his players strengths and Gurley should benefit.
No, no one is trying to buy surprisingly enough. I've heard it on several podcasts, though I don't remember specifically all of them. I just heard it on DynastyNerds podcast for sell highs. I think they have some good information but don't really base their ideas on sound logic. But they haven't been the only ones saying it. I've seen it written and heard it other places as well. Just trying to get some feedback from guys I trust more, ie, this forum.
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby Pac_Eddy » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:26 am

Gurley is an above average receiving back. The Rams just haven't used him that way. Hopefully they'll wake up & use him to his strengths better, but you never know.

I think he's a buy-low.
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby Servo » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:14 am

I think the big adjustment LA needs to make is to keep Gurley out there as a 3-Down Back, now maybe that's an indictment of Gurley's pass protection but how predictable of a Jeff Fisher can you be when everyone knows what you're doing on 3rd Down after Gurley exits the game. If he's that dynamic of a playmaker, he needs to be out there.

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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby mullmania » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:17 am

Owner in my league is selling and is VERY hot for picks this year. If I can land him for 1.6, 2.2 that's a no brainer right?

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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby JJDubya » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:20 am

JohnZoidberg wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:14 am I think the big adjustment LA needs to make is to keep Gurley out there as a 3-Down Back, now maybe that's an indictment of Gurley's pass protection but how predictable of a Jeff Fisher can you be when everyone knows what you're doing on 3rd Down after Gurley exits the game. If he's that dynamic of a playmaker, he needs to be out there.
From what I've read and listened to my understanding is that he lacks from a pass pro perspective. If that keeps him off the field on third down, that's not good for his production this year, but I'm sure he'll improve over time with that though. The bigger concern was his efficiency as a runner this past year. He was godawful imo. People like to blame the offense and the team overall, but Crowell and Howard did more while being in similar situations on terrible teams/QB situations. He's definitely a buy-low opportunity, but I won't be paying prices (usually 1.01 if not more) that Gurley owners are asking.

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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby IR1 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:26 am

mullmania wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:17 am Owner in my league is selling and is VERY hot for picks this year. If I can land him for 1.6, 2.2 that's a no brainer right?
I'd jump at that
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby Dynastychamp111 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:21 am

I sold gurley mid season last year with another piece for Mike Evans, however Fisher didnt put Gurley in alot of 3rd downs or passing downs. It was very frustrating. New regime so things may change but they did sign dunbar who is really good out the backfield (when healthy).

But for 1.6/2.2 i would take it.
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby operwapitsai » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:26 am

If I remember correctly, Gurley had similar college receiving stats as David Johnson.
If anything can be said about Gurley's 3rd down usability, it is not a question about hands, but about his pass protection.
Anybody noting that Gurley is simply a 2 down thumper is just plain wrong.
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby ninotoreS » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:32 am

Gurley isn't such a liability on 3rd-downs that he has to be taken out of the game.

Look, if Gurley regains his form as workhorse rusher, and is merely decent in pass-protection, he'll stay in on many/most 3rd-downs, just because it telegraphs less to the opposing defense. He'll never be a threat for 70+ receptions in a season, but as with so many workhorse rushers before him that were only so-so as pass-catchers, he can still end up with 50 receptions on the year just from catching dump-offs.

Heck, Gurley had 43 receptions even last year. Throw in 250+ carries, that's an RB1 in any scoring format, PPR or otherwise.
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby mullmania » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:33 am

Looking back at Gurley's rookie year it was very top heavy to his first 4 full games

He has 88 carries for 566 yards or 6.4 YPC

After that he had 135 carries 531 yards for 3.9 YPC

My basic point is that he's been averaging under 4YPC not just last year but for the majority of his career.

He's a talent no doubt but the Rams hold him back

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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby maxhyde » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:10 am

mullmania wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:17 am Owner in my league is selling and is VERY hot for picks this year. If I can land him for 1.6, 2.2 that's a no brainer right?
Definitely

Gurley would be pretty solid PPR guy but the Rams OLine was so bad it wouldn't matter. Not sure I want him running wheel routes 30 yards downfield but the short dumpoffs might clear some of the muck he has in his way to get started
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby Jfever » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:12 am

Well said. ^ A point a lot of people blindly dismiss.

I'd still be all over the 1.6 and 2.2 for him. That is a ridiculously low cost.
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby mullmania » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:24 am

Owner now wants 1.6, 2.2 AND a 2018 1st. I'm passing on that all day.

Im win now and just need RB production. Not some elite asset that was mediocre last year and may be again.

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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby nathanq42 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:26 am

mullmania wrote: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:24 am Owner now wants 1.6, 2.2 AND a 2018 1st. I'm passing on that all day.

Im win now and just need RB production. Not some elite asset that was mediocre last year and may be again.
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?

Postby KCLep20 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:13 am

Selling Gurley seems counter productive. Anyone who has him either paid to jump up to the 1.01 or earned it, either way, they paid for it one way or another. For a guy that has top 5 talent, is only 22 (will be 23 by season's start) what is the rationale to sell him? If you can get Mike Evans, sure. But to trade him for pieces or picks that are unknown just seems like a waste of time.
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