No, no one is trying to buy surprisingly enough. I've heard it on several podcasts, though I don't remember specifically all of them. I just heard it on DynastyNerds podcast for sell highs. I think they have some good information but don't really base their ideas on sound logic. But they haven't been the only ones saying it. I've seen it written and heard it other places as well. Just trying to get some feedback from guys I trust more, ie, this forum.
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
Gurley is an above average receiving back. The Rams just haven't used him that way. Hopefully they'll wake up & use him to his strengths better, but you never know.
I think he's a buy-low.
I think he's a buy-low.
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
I think the big adjustment LA needs to make is to keep Gurley out there as a 3-Down Back, now maybe that's an indictment of Gurley's pass protection but how predictable of a Jeff Fisher can you be when everyone knows what you're doing on 3rd Down after Gurley exits the game. If he's that dynamic of a playmaker, he needs to be out there.
Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
Owner in my league is selling and is VERY hot for picks this year. If I can land him for 1.6, 2.2 that's a no brainer right?
Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
From what I've read and listened to my understanding is that he lacks from a pass pro perspective. If that keeps him off the field on third down, that's not good for his production this year, but I'm sure he'll improve over time with that though. The bigger concern was his efficiency as a runner this past year. He was godawful imo. People like to blame the offense and the team overall, but Crowell and Howard did more while being in similar situations on terrible teams/QB situations. He's definitely a buy-low opportunity, but I won't be paying prices (usually 1.01 if not more) that Gurley owners are asking.JohnZoidberg wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:14 am I think the big adjustment LA needs to make is to keep Gurley out there as a 3-Down Back, now maybe that's an indictment of Gurley's pass protection but how predictable of a Jeff Fisher can you be when everyone knows what you're doing on 3rd Down after Gurley exits the game. If he's that dynamic of a playmaker, he needs to be out there.
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I'd jump at that
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
I sold gurley mid season last year with another piece for Mike Evans, however Fisher didnt put Gurley in alot of 3rd downs or passing downs. It was very frustrating. New regime so things may change but they did sign dunbar who is really good out the backfield (when healthy).
But for 1.6/2.2 i would take it.
But for 1.6/2.2 i would take it.
10 Team SuperFlex PPR TE Premium Best Ball
QB: A. Luck, L. Jackson, K. Murray, T. Jackson
RB: D. Johnson, Damien Williams, T. Pollard, T. Johnson, Dexter Williams, D. Hilliard, B. Hill, J. Ajayi
WR: Juju, Tyreek Hill, AB, C. Godwin, T. Lockett, C. Kupp, T. Boyd, C. Kirk, MVS,T. Benjamin, Emanuel Hall, Preston Williams, J. Watson, Trent Taylor, Ashton Dulin, Scott Miller, Reggie White Jr,
TE: D. Harris, J. Reed, RSJ, ASJ, CJ Uzomah, D. Waller, Ben Watson, Max Williams, F. Moreau
12 Team PPR-4pt passing
QB-L.Jackson, P. Rivers,
RB: S. Barkley, A. Kamara, D. Montgomery, M. Sanders, A. Ekeler, Dexter Williams. J. Hill, Ty. Johnson, D. Hilliard
WR: M. Evans, TY Hilton, A. Brown, T. Boyd, A. Miller, C. Kirk, Marquise Brown, P. Williams
TE: E. Engram, J. Doyle, D. Waller
QB: A. Luck, L. Jackson, K. Murray, T. Jackson
RB: D. Johnson, Damien Williams, T. Pollard, T. Johnson, Dexter Williams, D. Hilliard, B. Hill, J. Ajayi
WR: Juju, Tyreek Hill, AB, C. Godwin, T. Lockett, C. Kupp, T. Boyd, C. Kirk, MVS,T. Benjamin, Emanuel Hall, Preston Williams, J. Watson, Trent Taylor, Ashton Dulin, Scott Miller, Reggie White Jr,
TE: D. Harris, J. Reed, RSJ, ASJ, CJ Uzomah, D. Waller, Ben Watson, Max Williams, F. Moreau
12 Team PPR-4pt passing
QB-L.Jackson, P. Rivers,
RB: S. Barkley, A. Kamara, D. Montgomery, M. Sanders, A. Ekeler, Dexter Williams. J. Hill, Ty. Johnson, D. Hilliard
WR: M. Evans, TY Hilton, A. Brown, T. Boyd, A. Miller, C. Kirk, Marquise Brown, P. Williams
TE: E. Engram, J. Doyle, D. Waller
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
If I remember correctly, Gurley had similar college receiving stats as David Johnson.
If anything can be said about Gurley's 3rd down usability, it is not a question about hands, but about his pass protection.
Anybody noting that Gurley is simply a 2 down thumper is just plain wrong.
If anything can be said about Gurley's 3rd down usability, it is not a question about hands, but about his pass protection.
Anybody noting that Gurley is simply a 2 down thumper is just plain wrong.
TEAM 1
12 Team - 35 Roster - .5 PPR - IDP(bp) - 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FX - 2DL 2LB 2DB 1FX
QB: J. Allen, D. Watson
RB: T. Gurley, JK Dobbins, M. Ingram, M. Brown, G. Edwards, F. Gore
WR: J. Jefferson, J. Landry, M. Brown, AJ Green, J. Washington
TE: E. Engram, E. Ebron
TEAM 2
12 Team - 26 Roster - .5 PPR - 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FX
QB: J. Herbert, J. Allen
RB: M. Gordon, R. Jones, AJ Dillon, J. McKinnon
WR: K. Allen, B. Cooks, A. Robinson, C. Samuel, J. Jeudy, CD Lamb, D. Johnson
TE: Gronk, Irv Smith, J. Graham
TEAM 3
12 Team - 35 Roster - .5 PPR - IDP(bp) - 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF - 2DL 2LB 2DB
QB: A. Rodgers, J. Garoppolo, J. Love
RB: D. Cook, L. Fournette, P. Lindsay, M. Davis, L. Murray
WR: C. Ridley, DJ Moore, T. McLaurin, NC Lamb, K. Cupp, M. Williams, M. Brown
TE: H. Henrey, T. Higbee
12 Team - 35 Roster - .5 PPR - IDP(bp) - 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FX - 2DL 2LB 2DB 1FX
QB: J. Allen, D. Watson
RB: T. Gurley, JK Dobbins, M. Ingram, M. Brown, G. Edwards, F. Gore
WR: J. Jefferson, J. Landry, M. Brown, AJ Green, J. Washington
TE: E. Engram, E. Ebron
TEAM 2
12 Team - 26 Roster - .5 PPR - 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FX
QB: J. Herbert, J. Allen
RB: M. Gordon, R. Jones, AJ Dillon, J. McKinnon
WR: K. Allen, B. Cooks, A. Robinson, C. Samuel, J. Jeudy, CD Lamb, D. Johnson
TE: Gronk, Irv Smith, J. Graham
TEAM 3
12 Team - 35 Roster - .5 PPR - IDP(bp) - 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF - 2DL 2LB 2DB
QB: A. Rodgers, J. Garoppolo, J. Love
RB: D. Cook, L. Fournette, P. Lindsay, M. Davis, L. Murray
WR: C. Ridley, DJ Moore, T. McLaurin, NC Lamb, K. Cupp, M. Williams, M. Brown
TE: H. Henrey, T. Higbee
Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
Gurley isn't such a liability on 3rd-downs that he has to be taken out of the game.
Look, if Gurley regains his form as workhorse rusher, and is merely decent in pass-protection, he'll stay in on many/most 3rd-downs, just because it telegraphs less to the opposing defense. He'll never be a threat for 70+ receptions in a season, but as with so many workhorse rushers before him that were only so-so as pass-catchers, he can still end up with 50 receptions on the year just from catching dump-offs.
Heck, Gurley had 43 receptions even last year. Throw in 250+ carries, that's an RB1 in any scoring format, PPR or otherwise.
Look, if Gurley regains his form as workhorse rusher, and is merely decent in pass-protection, he'll stay in on many/most 3rd-downs, just because it telegraphs less to the opposing defense. He'll never be a threat for 70+ receptions in a season, but as with so many workhorse rushers before him that were only so-so as pass-catchers, he can still end up with 50 receptions on the year just from catching dump-offs.
Heck, Gurley had 43 receptions even last year. Throw in 250+ carries, that's an RB1 in any scoring format, PPR or otherwise.
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
Looking back at Gurley's rookie year it was very top heavy to his first 4 full games
He has 88 carries for 566 yards or 6.4 YPC
After that he had 135 carries 531 yards for 3.9 YPC
My basic point is that he's been averaging under 4YPC not just last year but for the majority of his career.
He's a talent no doubt but the Rams hold him back
He has 88 carries for 566 yards or 6.4 YPC
After that he had 135 carries 531 yards for 3.9 YPC
My basic point is that he's been averaging under 4YPC not just last year but for the majority of his career.
He's a talent no doubt but the Rams hold him back
Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
Definitely
Gurley would be pretty solid PPR guy but the Rams OLine was so bad it wouldn't matter. Not sure I want him running wheel routes 30 yards downfield but the short dumpoffs might clear some of the muck he has in his way to get started
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QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams
QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams
Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
Well said. ^ A point a lot of people blindly dismiss.
I'd still be all over the 1.6 and 2.2 for him. That is a ridiculously low cost.
I'd still be all over the 1.6 and 2.2 for him. That is a ridiculously low cost.
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Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
Owner now wants 1.6, 2.2 AND a 2018 1st. I'm passing on that all day.
Im win now and just need RB production. Not some elite asset that was mediocre last year and may be again.
Im win now and just need RB production. Not some elite asset that was mediocre last year and may be again.
Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
That guy is laaaame
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
Re: Can Todd Gurley PPR good?
Selling Gurley seems counter productive. Anyone who has him either paid to jump up to the 1.01 or earned it, either way, they paid for it one way or another. For a guy that has top 5 talent, is only 22 (will be 23 by season's start) what is the rationale to sell him? If you can get Mike Evans, sure. But to trade him for pieces or picks that are unknown just seems like a waste of time.
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'Ships: 2008, 2017, 2019, 2021; 2nd place: 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022
12 team PPR with 14 Keepers/year
2023 Draft Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 3.04, 3.07, 5.04
QB: L.Jackson, J. Burrow, G. Minshew, J. Winston
RB: J.Mixon, ETN, Jav.Williams, J.Conner, Z.Moss, JK Dobbins (IR), N.Chubb (IR)
WR: AJB, CD Lamb, DK, C.Sutton
TE: M.Andrews, T.McBride, I. Likely
'Ships: 2008, 2017, 2019, 2021; 2nd place: 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022
12 team PPR with 14 Keepers/year
2023 Draft Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 3.04, 3.07, 5.04
QB: L.Jackson, J. Burrow, G. Minshew, J. Winston
RB: J.Mixon, ETN, Jav.Williams, J.Conner, Z.Moss, JK Dobbins (IR), N.Chubb (IR)
WR: AJB, CD Lamb, DK, C.Sutton
TE: M.Andrews, T.McBride, I. Likely
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