Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby Goddard » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:47 pm

Valhalla wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:14 pm Another question: which team(s) may draft two backs? Like the Lacy Franklin draft that lowered both of their draft values
Interesting question. Not sure how many teams can afford to spend 2 picks on a RB, but Oakland comes to mind if Lynch doesn't go there. Maybe Washington, but less likely. GB and Min would also make some sense. I think a lot of the RB needy teams have too many other needs as well to spend two picks on one position like RB.

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Postby Valhalla » Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:52 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:17 pm
Valhalla wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:14 pm Another question: which team(s) may draft two backs? Like the Lacy Franklin draft that lowered both of their draft values
Green Bay & Cincy both have quite a few draft picks, I believe...
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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby broncohead » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:49 pm

Madadamus wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:05 pm Lamar Miller
Mark Ingram
C.J. Anderson
Spencer Ware
Ameer Abdullah
Kenneth Dixon
Ty Montgomery
Giovani Bernard
Latavius Murray
Paul Perkins
T.J. Yeldon
Rob Kelley
Jeremy Hill
I don't agree with Miller or Ingram. NO have been looking at other RBs but I think Ingram will still have a clear roll and a solid RB2. I don't see the Texans drafting a RB until at the earliest 2nd round. At that point I don't see a rookie RB that would challenge Miller (Assuming Fournette, Cook, Mixon, and McCaffery are gone).
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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby Coogan Football » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:57 pm

pokerface40 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:45 pm Ingram. As an owner I'm a bit worried. They're bringing in AP for a visit next week, and with Hightower gone they could go RB early easily.
Way too many other holes. If we take a RB it'll be later in the draft and if we do it will probably be a 3rd down/pass catching type RB.

I'm not worried at all about AD signing, Ingram has the full trust of Payton IMO, he just has to stay healthy.
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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby Valhalla » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:57 pm

broncohead wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:49 pm
Madadamus wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:05 pm Lamar Miller
Mark Ingram
C.J. Anderson
Spencer Ware
Ameer Abdullah
Kenneth Dixon
Ty Montgomery
Giovani Bernard
Latavius Murray
Paul Perkins
T.J. Yeldon
Rob Kelley
Jeremy Hill
I don't agree with Miller or Ingram. NO have been looking at other RBs but I think Ingram will still have a clear roll and a solid RB2. I don't see the Texans drafting a RB until at the earliest 2nd round. At that point I don't see a rookie RB that would challenge Miller (Assuming Fournette, Cook, Mixon, and McCaffery are gone).
A round 2 rb threatening miller's job as a majority holder rb? Maybe not. A round 2 rb threatening to lower his opportunity volume? Absolutely. That's a value loss, even if Miller remains the lead dog

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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby James McGhee » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:16 am

Coogan Football wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:57 pm
pokerface40 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:45 pm Ingram. As an owner I'm a bit worried. They're bringing in AP for a visit next week, and with Hightower gone they could go RB early easily.
Way too many other holes. If we take a RB it'll be later in the draft and if we do it will probably be a 3rd down/pass catching type RB.

I'm not worried at all about AD signing, Ingram has the full trust of Payton IMO, he just has to stay healthy.
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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby TTHTD » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:19 pm

So to recap, pretty much every single RB actually

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Postby clarion contrarion » Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:10 am

Coogan Football wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:57 pm
pokerface40 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:45 pm Ingram. As an owner I'm a bit worried. They're bringing in AP for a visit next week, and with Hightower gone they could go RB early easily.
Way too many other holes. If we take a RB it'll be later in the draft and if we do it will probably be a 3rd down/pass catching type RB.

I'm not worried at all about AD signing, Ingram has the full trust of Payton IMO, he just has to stay healthy.
full trust really ? tim hightower's 155 touches last season or
khiry robsinson and cj spillers 142 2015 touches would like to have a word with you ? didn't even account for hightowers 108 touches as he got most of those after ingram was injured.
Even robinson and pierre thomas 170+ touches in 2014 suggest payton only has partial trust in ingram .
Like ingram as a player but don't trust payton at all , he likes to get cute with his personnel packages and rb usage and has always been like that to my memory. Every year its the same ," we have to get back to the running game ,650+ passes later & missed playoffs ..... we have to get back to the running game " lather rinse repeat . Ingram won't get replaced per se but it appears he will never get a workhorse role due to durability or usage and a chance to pile up a 300 carry 1500 yard 15 td season at least until he leaves and goes to new england in a year or two.
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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby 23B_Mills » Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:17 am

TTHTD wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:19 pm So to recap, pretty much every single RB actually
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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby theone » Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:16 am

TTHTD wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:19 pm So to recap, pretty much every single RB actually
Narrowing this down a bit, the guys I see who have a good chance to lose some significant value:
Gordon - SD likely to bring in a back to reduce his usage, maybe only a passing down back.
Hyde - Last year of contract and Shanahan effectively used a timeshare in ATL.
CJA, Ware, Perkins - each seen as the starter by some but could easily be replaced in draft.

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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby maxhyde » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:23 am

Hyde? Maybe Gordon? Shady? New coaches in all cities so wouldn't assume any of these #1RB's are safe from a value slide if the new regime brings in a runner
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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby skip » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:34 am

There have been some names in here mentioned that don't make any sense at all to me... The mention of Lamar Miller is just absurd. Houston is going to roll with Miller/Blue/Ervin. They are not drafting a running back.

Melvin Gordon is not losing any value even if the Chargers bring in a back to to play 3rd downs. How quickly everyone forgets he was a top 15 NFL draft pick. If I had to gamble on whether 2017 will look more like last year or his rookie season, there is no question it will be like 2016.
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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby Pac_Eddy » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:28 am

skip wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:34 am There have been some names in here mentioned that don't make any sense at all to me... The mention of Lamar Miller is just absurd. Houston is going to roll with Miller/Blue/Ervin. They are not drafting a running back.

Melvin Gordon is not losing any value even if the Chargers bring in a back to to play 3rd downs. How quickly everyone forgets he was a top 15 NFL draft pick. If I had to gamble on whether 2017 will look more like last year or his rookie season, there is no question it will be like 2016.
I don't know why you're so sure the Texans wouldn't draft a RB. Teams with solid starters often draft mid to late round RBs that can provide backup at RB as well as special teams snaps.
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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:36 am

Pac_Eddy wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:28 am
skip wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:34 am There have been some names in here mentioned that don't make any sense at all to me... The mention of Lamar Miller is just absurd. Houston is going to roll with Miller/Blue/Ervin. They are not drafting a running back.

Melvin Gordon is not losing any value even if the Chargers bring in a back to to play 3rd downs. How quickly everyone forgets he was a top 15 NFL draft pick. If I had to gamble on whether 2017 will look more like last year or his rookie season, there is no question it will be like 2016.
I don't know why you're so sure the Texans wouldn't draft a RB. Teams with solid starters often draft mid to late round RBs that can provide backup at RB as well as special teams snaps.
Sure but unless Houston drafts someone in the first 2-3 rounds, they would be upgrading their backup spot, probably not drafting a guy to usurp or heavily eat into Miller's pie
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Re: Which current NFL RBs will lose value to rookies?

Postby Monkey » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:49 am

skip wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:34 am There have been some names in here mentioned that don't make any sense at all to me... The mention of Lamar Miller is just absurd. Houston is going to roll with Miller/Blue/Ervin. They are not drafting a running back.

Melvin Gordon is not losing any value even if the Chargers bring in a back to to play 3rd downs. How quickly everyone forgets he was a top 15 NFL draft pick. If I had to gamble on whether 2017 will look more like last year or his rookie season, there is no question it will be like 2016.
I could see the Chargers picking up someone like Curtis Samuel, some hybrid WR/RB that would only see significant carries if Gordon went down with injury, sort of like Ty Montgomery's road to RB status.


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