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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby pokerface40 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:11 am

clarion contrarion wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:44 am good point and until they slow zeke down if the league can dak should have a solid shot at replicating his terrific rookie # . Now the league vcan go all out and shut down zeke if they want to scheme for it but that only helps dak find more receivers with less coverage . I have always had a bit of an affinity for terrence williams as a cheap wr flyer but boys really need to add a field stretcher to complement zeke dez beasley and the running game. A guy like john ross likely gone by boys pick or even evan engram would be a terrific fit in that offense I think.
Oh man I couldn't agree more!! While I was ok with retaining TWill at a good price I do feel like we could use a nice field stretcher. I was praying DJax made us his 3rd NFL East team, but Ross would be insane. Also hoping for one of the top 3 TEs, even though we need DE or secondary help as well.

But back to Dak. I understand why you could be leery but the fact is he was absolutely stone cold as a rookie entering an insane amount of media scrutiny as a rookie 4th rounder taking over for Romo. He has weapons around him to give him a solid floor. To not have him ranked as top 12 in dynasty is foolish at this point. Redraft sure, dynasty no way.

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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby clarion contrarion » Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:25 am

foolish perhaps I have been called that before and I did wonder about he or wentz elected wentz as I think if he can stop being a crash test dummy he has a higher long term passing upside and as dak ages he will need to scale back the rushing tds for his own longevity but I wouldn't skewer someone for having dak ahead oir wentz or even a couple other guys frankly . Never been much of a boys fan after the super bowl battles with my steelers in my youth ( cliff harris knows ) and that black day in 1996 when neil o'donnell led the boys to the super bowl XXX win over my steelers , a wound that will never heal.
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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby TheDogPound » Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:13 pm

ChuckCecil26 wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:42 pm Mariota
Luck
Rodgers
Carr
Wilson
Winston
Cam
Cousins
Dak
Ryan
Stafford
Brady (I'll still take the Old Man over Wentz here)
Come on..where's the bias coming from? Explain Mariota being so high here? Lol

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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby ArrylT » Thu May 18, 2017 10:04 am

Since the bradford thread got locked ... posting this here:

Just read an article that stated Sam Bradford had the best deep ball in 2016. I'm not going to post a link here but type in deep ball article in your search engine and you'll likely find it easily. Just surprised me to read that Bradford was the best QB last year is all.
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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby Valhalla » Thu May 18, 2017 8:20 pm

The fact that the Bradford thread got locked was a pity. I understand locking a thread when healthy arguments/debates spiral into personal attacks...just a pity that it went that way. I enjoyed debating Bradford, as opinions on him are all over the board. For that reason alone, he's a much more interesting subject (to me, anyways) than "Evans or Beckham?," "Is DJ really good or what," or "mandatory Josh Gordon update!"

I suppose the more interesting, debatable subjects are the subjects more likely to draw in heated arguments and get locked.

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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby jonesmaster » Thu May 18, 2017 8:28 pm

so pumped this popped back up, really wanted to see this list. Mine is as follows:

Rodgers
Luck
Cam
Winston
Mariota
Wilson
Carr
Dak
Brady
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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby ArrylT » Thu May 18, 2017 9:13 pm

Valhalla wrote: Thu May 18, 2017 8:20 pm The fact that the Bradford thread got locked was a pity. I understand locking a thread when healthy arguments/debates spiral into personal attacks...just a pity that it went that way. I enjoyed debating Bradford, as opinions on him are all over the board. For that reason alone, he's a much more interesting subject (to me, anyways) than "Evans or Beckham?," "Is DJ really good or what," or "mandatory Josh Gordon update!"

I suppose the more interesting, debatable subjects are the subjects more likely to draw in heated arguments and get locked.
I concur.

I'd also like to see what a fully healthy Bradford behind a good o-line with real weapons looks like. :)
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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby clarion contrarion » Fri May 19, 2017 3:09 am

I wanted to see halley's comet but was busy in 1986 and will be nearly a hondo when it comes back and I doubt I make it that far .
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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby CAMVP » Fri May 19, 2017 6:15 am

clarion contrarion wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:43 pm
Cult of Dionysus wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:56 pm Where's Bradford!!!
dude its top 12
not casey kasem's top 40 smash hit qb countdown
You think Bradford makes the top 40?? :lol:
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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri May 19, 2017 10:58 am

clarion contrarion wrote: Fri May 19, 2017 3:09 am I wanted to see halley's comet but was busy in 1986 and will be nearly a hondo when it comes back and I doubt I make it that far .
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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby Vcize » Fri May 19, 2017 11:35 am

ArrylT wrote: Thu May 18, 2017 10:04 am Since the bradford thread got locked ... posting this here:

Just read an article that stated Sam Bradford had the best deep ball in 2016. I'm not going to post a link here but type in deep ball article in your search engine and you'll likely find it easily. Just surprised me to read that Bradford was the best QB last year is all.
This is throwing me for a loop, logically. How can a guy who ranks first in deep ball accuracy rank last in yards per completion?

I understand that the study doesn't take yards or TDs into account but rather a subjective measure of "accurate" or not, and they attempt to dismiss it in the article by noting the offensive line woes preventing him from throwing downfield often. But this isn't a one year thing, it's been his entire career. Bradford has finished bottom 5 in the league in yards per completion every season of his career except one, where he finished 19th.

When two things just diametrically oppose each other like this it makes me think that it's probably the subjective study that isn't accurate, but other than that I'm not sure how these things work against each other so much. Maybe he's always been afraid to throw downfield even though he's good at it.
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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby TheChicken » Fri May 19, 2017 1:55 pm

Vcize wrote: Fri May 19, 2017 11:35 am
ArrylT wrote: Thu May 18, 2017 10:04 am Since the bradford thread got locked ... posting this here:

Just read an article that stated Sam Bradford had the best deep ball in 2016. I'm not going to post a link here but type in deep ball article in your search engine and you'll likely find it easily. Just surprised me to read that Bradford was the best QB last year is all.
This is throwing me for a loop, logically. How can a guy who ranks first in deep ball accuracy rank last in yards per completion?
As Gisele would say ... 'he cannot throw it and catch it himself'.
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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby Valhalla » Fri May 19, 2017 5:34 pm

Vcize wrote: Fri May 19, 2017 11:35 am
ArrylT wrote: Thu May 18, 2017 10:04 am Since the bradford thread got locked ... posting this here:

Just read an article that stated Sam Bradford had the best deep ball in 2016. I'm not going to post a link here but type in deep ball article in your search engine and you'll likely find it easily. Just surprised me to read that Bradford was the best QB last year is all.
This is throwing me for a loop, logically. How can a guy who ranks first in deep ball accuracy rank last in yards per completion?

I understand that the study doesn't take yards or TDs into account but rather a subjective measure of "accurate" or not, and they attempt to dismiss it in the article by noting the offensive line woes preventing him from throwing downfield often. But this isn't a one year thing, it's been his entire career. Bradford has finished bottom 5 in the league in yards per completion every season of his career except one, where he finished 19th.

When two things just diametrically oppose each other like this it makes me think that it's probably the subjective study that isn't accurate, but other than that I'm not sure how these things work against each other so much. Maybe he's always been afraid to throw downfield even though he's good at it.
Actually what they point out I see as accurate for him. He was damn accurate last year at all levels, not just the short game. His critics/haters love to point out that his completion % was only a record high because he only throws short passes and isn't otherwise accurate, which is completely false. He regularly only had TIME to throw short passes, which was clear to anyone who regularly watched the Vikings last year.
As to this career trend of his...it's also a career trend of his to have a horrible OL with less than spectacular WRs. Maybe he's showing a career trend of short passes not because he is afraid to go deep, but because he's had a career of crap for OL other than his one year with the Eagles.

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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby Vcize » Fri May 19, 2017 8:20 pm

Valhalla wrote: Fri May 19, 2017 5:34 pm
Vcize wrote: Fri May 19, 2017 11:35 am
ArrylT wrote: Thu May 18, 2017 10:04 am Since the bradford thread got locked ... posting this here:

Just read an article that stated Sam Bradford had the best deep ball in 2016. I'm not going to post a link here but type in deep ball article in your search engine and you'll likely find it easily. Just surprised me to read that Bradford was the best QB last year is all.
This is throwing me for a loop, logically. How can a guy who ranks first in deep ball accuracy rank last in yards per completion?

I understand that the study doesn't take yards or TDs into account but rather a subjective measure of "accurate" or not, and they attempt to dismiss it in the article by noting the offensive line woes preventing him from throwing downfield often. But this isn't a one year thing, it's been his entire career. Bradford has finished bottom 5 in the league in yards per completion every season of his career except one, where he finished 19th.

When two things just diametrically oppose each other like this it makes me think that it's probably the subjective study that isn't accurate, but other than that I'm not sure how these things work against each other so much. Maybe he's always been afraid to throw downfield even though he's good at it.
Actually what they point out I see as accurate for him. He was damn accurate last year at all levels, not just the short game. His critics/haters love to point out that his completion % was only a record high because he only throws short passes and isn't otherwise accurate, which is completely false. He regularly only had TIME to throw short passes, which was clear to anyone who regularly watched the Vikings last year.
As to this career trend of his...it's also a career trend of his to have a horrible OL with less than spectacular WRs. Maybe he's showing a career trend of short passes not because he is afraid to go deep, but because he's had a career of crap for OL other than his one year with the Eagles.
He was 3rd to last in the league in yards per completion with the Eagles too.
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Re: Rank your top 12 Dynasty QBs

Postby TheDogPound » Fri May 19, 2017 9:38 pm

I am completely lost with the Bradford support. Like seriously, if you're trying to win any dynasty league are you seriously considering Bradford?

At what point do we accept who he is? Especially after he repeatedly shows us, irregardless of any excuses one wants to make about his team. Andrew Luck has had a dreadful O Line and look at him. Hell Mathew Stafford as well.


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