Jonny Manziel poised for ComeBack?

[ArrylT]

https://www.tsn.ca/naylor-s-kickoff-how ... -1.1152036

Can Manziel become more than just a footnote?

Interesting fact - Manziel is the 5th Heisman winner to try to succeed in the CFL in the past 30 years (since Flutie) and none have been successful so far ...

[joshb]

Oh I see that Johnny Manziel is playing on ESPN 2 let me just check and see how he's doing....aaaand he's got 3 picks and they're down 28-3.

[guyatwork37]

4 picks now...

[Dookmarriot]

Not saying he'll get any better, but the Montreal front office should be ashamed of themselves for giving him one week to learn a completely different game and throwing him out there. It was a cynical ploy to move tickets and jerseys.

Credit Hamilton for running D plays to disguise the 12th man on the field. Very sharp scheming and he's fallen for it twice.

[FiremanEd]

Not saying he'll get any better, but the Montreal front office should be ashamed of themselves for giving him one week to learn a completely different game and throwing him out there. It was a cynical ploy to move tickets and jerseys.

Credit Hamilton for running D plays to disguise the 12th man on the field. Very sharp scheming and he's fallen for it twice.

In fairness, it is Week 8 in the CFL, so he’s had more than one week to learn the league. He had 8-9 days with the team for the playbook. It can be debated how much he should know in that period, but it is a poor performance regardless.

[Dookmarriot]

Not saying he'll get any better, but the Montreal front office should be ashamed of themselves for giving him one week to learn a completely different game and throwing him out there. It was a cynical ploy to move tickets and jerseys.

Credit Hamilton for running D plays to disguise the 12th man on the field. Very sharp scheming and he's fallen for it twice.

In fairness, it is Week 8 in the CFL, so he’s had more than one week to learn the league. He had 8-9 days with the team for the playbook. It can be debated how much he should know in that period, but it is a poor performance regardless.

He might just plain suck, but for the season he's had all of four days practice with the first team offense. The transition to the CFL isn't easy. Even Doug Flutie...who was so much fun during his time up north...had a tough first year, and that was with regular reps. Sitting on the bench for 8 weeks is probably not the best way to learn to account for the rover safety, for instance.

Doesn't help that Montreal is the most talent poor and dysfunctional franchise in the league. At least the night life is top drawer...

[Orenthal Shames]

Who?

[ArrylT]

Not saying he'll get any better, but the Montreal front office should be ashamed of themselves for giving him one week to learn a completely different game and throwing him out there. It was a cynical ploy to move tickets and jerseys.

Credit Hamilton for running D plays to disguise the 12th man on the field. Very sharp scheming and he's fallen for it twice.

In fairness, it is Week 8 in the CFL, so he’s had more than one week to learn the league. He had 8-9 days with the team for the playbook. It can be debated how much he should know in that period, but it is a poor performance regardless.

He might just plain suck, but for the season he's had all of four days practice with the first team offense. The transition to the CFL isn't easy. Even Doug Flutie...who was so much fun during his time up north...had a tough first year, and that was with regular reps. Sitting on the bench for 8 weeks is probably not the best way to learn to account for the rover safety, for instance.

Doesn't help that Montreal is the most talent poor and dysfunctional franchise in the league. At least the night life is top drawer...

Yes definitely not the start he was hoping for - but the score of the game was definitely not on him.

From what I saw, I felt that he showed flashes of creativity, improvisation, and poise in the pocket. Considering how poor the Montreal O-line was, it was surprising he only got sacked once, but obviously his athleticism has carried over from College.

I think his decision making needs work but considering he is basically a rookie, and it was his first professional start in over 2 years, that is to be expected. Of the 4 INTs, 2 were tipped passes, and one of them the receiver should have caught. That does not excuse his decision making, just noting that none of the throws he made were awful, and the Hamilton D is one of the strongest of the league and they got to prey on a QB they had on their team 2 weeks ago.

There were definitely times where he reminded me of Doug Flutie or Brett Favre.

As such, I think that he could definitely have success in the CFL - but whether or not that will occur is hard to say - like Dookmariot says the Alouettes are a mess right now - fallen on hard times (could be what the Patriots could expect after Brady), and it is going to be interesting to see how Manziel adapts and copes with the situation. So far the word is he's been showing a strong work ethic (watching lots of tape, working on memorizing playbook and understanding nuances of the CFL game).

The good news for those that are hopeful for Manziel to bust (again) in the NFL, or never make it back - is that I do not see him back in the NFL in 2019. Earliest would be 2020.

[MrUbuto]

Glad everyone is being reasonable here.

Huge CFL fan here. While the stat line is horrendous a few of those picks weren't really his fault and Montreal is HORRIBLE. Like browns horrible.

I hope they give him a other few shots.

[ArrylT]

https://www.cfl.ca/2018/08/09/ferguson- ... meets-eye/

What some would call an open-minded nuanced take, but others might consider a Manziel apologist take - all depends on your opinion and willingness to think outside the box I guess.

[hockeyBjj]

Apparently he ded

[Pullo Vision]

From what I saw, I felt that he showed flashes of creativity, improvisation, and poise in the pocket. Considering how poor the Montreal O-line was, it was surprising he only got sacked once, but obviously his athleticism has carried over from College.

When I was watching, his successful attempts to elude sacks became interceptions. Much better to lose yards than the ball. Some CFL concepts and practices won't translate to the NFL, but in both leagues you don't throw it when you've got a defender on you.

[DJB]

Was at the game . Actually worked the game as a paramedic. Met Manziel , he's very humble and way down the earth .

I have access to the hallway near the dressing rooms and his teammates were rallying around him. They definitely view him as a leader and there is no garbage or selfish Manziel . Doesn't trash his teammates at all, very supportive .

As far as his play , well?

Trouble is the Montreal line is trash. Their team is the Browns of the CFL , his o weapons especially his WR are bad.

Regardless of all that, I don't see an NFL QB anymore. Maybe a backup but certainly not a starter. He missed a lot of throws

[ArrylT]

Was at the game . Actually worked the game as a paramedic. Met Manziel , he's very humble and way down the earth .

I have access to the hallway near the dressing rooms and his teammates were rallying around him. They definitely view him as a leader and there is no garbage or selfish Manziel . Doesn't trash his teammates at all, very supportive .

As far as his play , well?

Trouble is the Montreal line is trash. Their team is the Browns of the CFL , his o weapons especially his WR are bad.

Regardless of all that, I don't see an NFL QB anymore. Maybe a backup but certainly not a starter. He missed a lot of throws

The game in Montreal or Ottawa? Either way kewl story and thanks for sharing!

[DJB]

In Ottawa