If you could afford to wait two years - Goff or Wentz?

[Phaded]

My superflex draft is coming up very soon.

I have 1.02 and doubt Zeke will be there.

I don't need a QB but will be taking one since I believe in drafting value and trading for need. Unless I trade down but based on offers so far, that is not likely.

If you could afford to wait 2 years (maybe even more) - who do you think will ultimately be the better fantasy producer?

6 point TDs if it matters & -3 for an INT.

Carson Wentz

or

Jared Goff

[Bot101]

TBH, neither lol. I dont like either as talents. But if you are dead set on taking a QB at 1.02 and letting them marinate I like Wentz more. Has the prototypical size and arm talent and he scored high on the wonderlic test. So physically and mentally he has the tools to possibly become good. I just think to get the ratings the NFL blew up these two by force feeding them to us. No one even viewed them as top of the 1st talents but team need drove them there. Winston/Mariota >>> Goff/Wentz.

[Phaded]

TBH, neither lol. I dont like either as talents. But if you are dead set on taking a QB at 1.02 and letting them marinate I like Wentz more. Has the prototypical size and arm talent and he scored high on the wonderlic test. So physically and mentally he has the tools to possibly become good. I just think to get the ratings the NFL blew up these two by force feeding them to us. No one even viewed them as top of the 1st talents but team need drove them there. Winston/Mariota >>> Goff/Wentz.

It's funny you say that and I think that is why I'm struggling so bad.. I don't love either of them but I feel like it's the best value at the pick in a Superflex. I was really hoping to get good value for the pick but since that seems like a longshot, figured would take one of them to get my 4th QB and use one as a trade piece.

[Servo]

It's a tough choice, I personally went with Goff myself and here was my reasoning: sure, Wentz' measurables have all been touted as the next Big Ben/Andrew Luck etc, which may be true....but I opted to go for the guy who put a bad Cal team on his back and improved significantly year over year. I'm not going to harp on "Competition Faced" but NDSU has been a powerhouse program for years, well before Wentz; while Goff was essentially on an island.

[Shoreline Steamers]

Tough call, since I'm also one who isn't "wowed" by either of the QB's and agree with the thought that Winston/Mariota > Goff/Wentz. That said, I think I'd go with Goff in your situation simply because we know he's going to start this season and therefore has a quicker shot at becoming fantasy relevant. If he plays well, you can flip him sooner than you could Wentz, who's not guaranteed to play this year if Philly sticks to their stated plan to let him learn for a season in 2016.

[Bot101]

Tough call, since I'm also one who isn't "wowed" by either of the QB's and agree with the thought that Winston/Mariota > Goff/Wentz. That said, I think I'd go with Goff in your situation simply because we know he's going to start this season and therefore has a quicker shot at becoming fantasy relevant. If he plays well, you can flip him sooner than you could Wentz, who's not guaranteed to play this year if Philly sticks to their stated plan to let him learn for a season in 2016.

Well I think the OP said if you can afford to wait two years? So who do you think has a higher ceiling two years from now?

[maxhyde]

I think Wentz has better upside because of his running in superflex but I think you would be able to flip Goff faster for a profit.
I had a choice of both and took Goff because I could use a guy to start and believe he will bump up in value more quickly

[AZK]

If you could afford to wait 2 years (maybe even more) - who do you think will ultimately be the better fantasy producer?

If I can afford to wait 2 years I'll make my decision 2 years from now.

In all seriousness I think they are very close, but I see Wentz having more value earlier on in their careers as IMO he will rely on his legs instead of read through his progressions and provide more FF points because of it.

[Shoreline Steamers]

Tough call, since I'm also one who isn't "wowed" by either of the QB's and agree with the thought that Winston/Mariota > Goff/Wentz. That said, I think I'd go with Goff in your situation simply because we know he's going to start this season and therefore has a quicker shot at becoming fantasy relevant. If he plays well, you can flip him sooner than you could Wentz, who's not guaranteed to play this year if Philly sticks to their stated plan to let him learn for a season in 2016.

Well I think the OP said if you can afford to wait two years? So who do you think has a higher ceiling two years from now?

If you're certain you're going to sit on the QB you'd select between the two for those full two-years I'd probably take Wentz. While the Rams' front office has hinted at extension talks with Fisher, I don't feel very comfortable with their organization as a whole. While they've got a great defense and RB, their other offensive skill position players are uninspiring to me, and I could see ownership blowing up the team within two years if they continue to be mediocre as they have been during Fisher's tenure.

Turnover means learning a new system, and a team rebuild. That doesn't usually work out very well for young QB's, and I think you've got slightly more stability in Philly with Pederson's 5-year deal.

[Bison]

I'm drafting at 1.02 in a non-superflex and Wentz will be gone by my pick.

[Bot101]

I'm drafting at 1.02 in a non-superflex and Wentz will be gone by my pick.

Enjoy the 1.01 owner making a massive mistake!

[Bison]

I'm drafting at 1.02 in a non-superflex and Wentz will be gone by my pick.

Enjoy the 1.01 owner making a massive mistake!

I've watched every snap Wentz has taken. I don't think he's making a mistake.

[kadun2]

I take Wentz here. They are fairly close but it comes down to durability and toughness. Wentz is big, quick, and smart. I see him shedding tackelers like Big Ben and being able to move well enough to score points with his legs. Not sure why but Goff seems a little soft to me..

[Dynasty DeLorean]

I had the 1.02 and took Goff because I think there is less risk of busting. I feel like the reasons for this have already been repeated to death but I could clarify if needed. In my opinion when you're picking that high the most important thing is to not blow the pick. It kind of reminds me of the Kevin White / Devante Parker decision last year. I liked Parker more, not because I thought his upside was higher but because I thought he had less risk of busting.

[AZK]

I'm drafting at 1.02 in a non-superflex and Wentz will be gone by my pick.

Enjoy the 1.01 owner making a massive mistake!

I've watched every snap Wentz has taken. I don't think he's making a mistake.

Wentz has gone between pick 1.10 and 3.06 in every draft I've had so far in 1QB leagues. The guy who picked him at 1.10 shocked the league. I wouldn't take him with a 1st round pick let alone 1.01 in any league where you start 1QB (unless its a 32 team league or something else non-traditional), QB positional points are just too easily replaceable.