Trade Calculators

[Thedude30]

I like to use them sometimes to see if I'm on the right track with a trade, or if there are some tweaks I can make. I definitely try not to use it as a crutch. I have been using two recently and noticed they tend to be fairly different. Now I'm guessing the algorithms are different, but I was just wondering if anyone else out there uses them, and if so which do you find most helpful? Do you find them to be a waste of your time? Again, I don't use them as the end all be all, but it's fun to mess around with a bit. Currently I've used DTC and DynastFFtools.com

[DrNoish]

I'll play with mainly DTC a bit when I'm contemplating an offer, just to see if packaging if I'm over/undershooting by a lot. So far the calculator hasn't helped for much other than convince an owner the way we added picks gave him the clear value.

[Tsunami]

I use a trade calc for every trade. The problem with the kind you are using is that it is based on that site's rankings/ADP for the player values, so even if they used the same formula the results could be wildly different and might not apply to your league settings. I haven't used those two you mentioned, I will have to play around with those two to see how the formulas work. I prefer the kind where you can enter the draft pick number, and then just use my own rankings (or the trusted rankings/ADP here at DLF ) and enter the number that represents the player to be traded.

Here are two I've found, they have a different curve (the relative values between 1st rounders, 3rd rounders, late rounders vary) so use the one that makes sense for you, or make your own in a spreadsheet as I did. Be careful to use one configured for startup rather than rookie drafts, as the curve for a rookie pick would be insane (1.1 worth 1.3 + 1.4 doesn't make sense in a startup!!!)

http://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm
http://www.footballperspective.com/draf ... alculator/

[Thedude30]

I use a trade calc for every trade. The problem with the kind you are using is that it is based on that site's rankings/ADP for the player values, so even if they used the same formula the results could be wildly different and might not apply to your league settings. I haven't used those two you mentioned, I will have to play around with those two to see how the formulas work. I prefer the kind where you can enter the draft pick number, and then just use my own rankings (or the trusted rankings/ADP here at DLF ) and enter the number that represents the player to be traded.

Here are two I've found, they have a different curve (the relative values between 1st rounders, 3rd rounders, late rounders vary) so use the one that makes sense for you, or make your own in a spreadsheet as I did. Be careful to use one configured for startup rather than rookie drafts, as the curve for a rookie pick would be insane (1.1 worth 1.3 + 1.4 doesn't make sense in a startup!!!)

http://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm
http://www.footballperspective.com/draf ... alculator/

That's great, I'll check it out. I definitely cross reference with DLF rankings and my own personal values.

Those two I posted place a number value on players, I think both are skewed towards 12team PPR (and I think you can even change some settings to fit with your league). Since I'm in an IDP league I keep in mind the picks are probably a tad more valuable.

[pokerface40]

I think the trade calculators are hogwash. A leaguemate of mine uses it in every trade and I tell him it means nothing to me. Too many variables are overlooked, mostly personal values. What does it even mean that a tr ade is 93% fair?

[maxhyde]

I think the trade calculators are hogwash. A leaguemate of mine uses it in every trade and I tell him it means nothing to me. Too many variables are overlooked, mostly personal values. What does it even mean that a tr ade is 93% fair?

Means you are only getting 7% hosed

That would be an improvement form most offers I receive

[HawkeyeState]

I dislike using trade calculators because most of them are based at least partially or entirely on ADP

[skip]

I think the trade calculators are hogwash.

Nothing more really to be said.

[ajpmn01]

The offer:

Allen Hurns
Pierre Garcon
2017 1st
for
Le'Veon Bell

I declined and said I didn't understand why he thought that looked good. He replied that he had used a trade calculator that told him it was fair and gave me the link. The calculator returned a "93%" fair rating. Wow. I know Bell is discounted by a lot of people because of the injury, but that surprises me.

[Hawks Nest 12th Man]

The offer:

Allen Hurns
Pierre Garcon
2017 1st
for
Le'Veon Bell

I declined and said I didn't understand why he thought that looked good. He replied that he had used a trade calculator that told him it was fair and gave me the link. The calculator returned a "93%" fair rating. Wow. I know Bell is discounted by a lot of people because of the injury, but that surprises me.

This is my issue with trade calculators if common sense isn't applied. 1+1+1+1+1=5, 5+0=5. Basically Bell = 5 alone a bunch of average players added up equals 5. But any 1/2 wit playing Fantasy knows this is classic volume trade offer for 1 stud. The calculators can be a valuable tool used correctly but like anything used wrong worthless.

[Jason3123]

He's using a bad calculator. Or he's assuming that first is the 1.1.

[ZPalmtree]

I have a commish and few league mates that will message me immediately after sending a trade offer saying, "trade calc says it's fair","accosting too trade calc it's 97%" fair. I find it a little insulting.

And is it a bad thing that I don't want a trade to be "fair"? I want to win every trade.

[Dr.Graffin]

I like trade calculators simply because they are fun. Thanks for mentioning DTC. Had never used it before, but I like how it reflects the difference in trade value by equating it to a player or pick.

As long as you can account for the perspective of the calculator, I think they can be useful tools in dynasty football.

[skip]

I think they can be useful tools in dynasty football.

Even if you like them perhaps in a redraft, given the increasing likelihood of error year over year I cannot envision their usefulness in dynasty.

[Tsunami]

The offer:

Allen Hurns
Pierre Garcon
2017 1st
for
Le'Veon Bell

I declined and said I didn't understand why he thought that looked good. He replied that he had used a trade calculator that told him it was fair and gave me the link. The calculator returned a "93%" fair rating. Wow. I know Bell is discounted by a lot of people because of the injury, but that surprises me.

If Hurns goes about 50th in a startup, garcon goes about 180th, and a random 1st might be valued about 70th (where 1.6 typically goes), and Bell is about 11th on ADP, I put those numbers into the calcs above and the FBG says you lose 26% value and the second says you lost 3% value.