Value of QB in a 1 QB league

[Dr.Graffin]

In both of my dynasty leagues we use 6 pt tds. IMO, having elite QB play in that format in a 12 team league is very important. Doesn't necessarily mean you'll win a championship, but it's a commonality between all championship teams in this format (great QB play that is).

[lukkynumber13]

What is "value"? If value is defined as: "What this asset does to help my team win", Then an elite QB isn't historically very valuable, compared to a low end QB1 (at least not even remotely as valuable as an elite WR or RB, combared to an average starter at their respective positions).

However, if value is what something is going to cost you to acquire in trade, then yes elite QBs (starting quarterbacks in general) carry a lot of value. But I think the correct term for the latter would be "price", not "value".

[bruiser]

I consider value to mean "replacement cost". I play in salary cap leagues, so maybe my definition of value is more quantifiable than someone who plays in leagues where draft picks are the only capital. That is much more psychological to every one individually.

Again, to me, valuable can be quantified as a measure of positional scarcity relative to a player's performance above replacement-level (zero).

[broncohead]

Value is different from league to league as well as cost. In my league its starting to boil down to supply and demand. There used to be a very large supply of QBs on the WW so demand was low. Now there isn't a single start-able QB on WW. When teams have to cut 4 players from their rosters, it will be interesting to see how many QBs hit the WW. If not many than the value will go up because supply is low and demand is high.

[Valhalla]

What is "value"? If value is defined as: "What this asset does to help my team win", Then an elite QB isn't historically very valuable, compared to a low end QB1 (at least not even remotely as valuable as an elite WR or RB, combared to an average starter at their respective positions).

[Goirish374]

It does remain a pity we focused so much attention on the first half of that article and not the (much more important) second half...

(Insert Popcorn munching emoji)

[Valhalla]

It does remain a pity we focused so much attention on the first half of that article and not the (much more important) second half...

(Insert Popcorn munching emoji)

Are you referring the the zero QB theorem article? You're right, I did stop reading half way through because the first half was so riddled with glaring issues (which I thoroughly laid out earlier and won't suffer you through my ramblings again) I didn't see the point in reading on.
Maybe the 2nd half was better. I'll give it a read when I get a chance this weekend.

[Valhalla]

Sorry, GoIrish (and Steve), but reading the "much more important" 2nd half didn't make up for the 1st half. It had its own flaws, and still points back to one simple (false) premise comparing two entirely unrelated percentages.

[Goirish374]

i'm not sure why you're apologizing to me...

[ArrylT]

I think that 2017 may have sounded the death knell for the "elite QB" side of the elite qb vs. qb streaming argument.

Between Andrew Luck & Aaron Rodgers going down for parts/all of the season, and QBs like Alex Smith, Case Keenum and Jared Goff putting up QB1 or near QB1 production, there is plenty of "evidence" for QB streamers / Zero QB theorists to be esctatic about ...

Having said that, I think long term, especially in deeper leagues (14+) and Superflex/2QB leagues, there is always going to be value having a QB that you feel comfortable will have a good shot put up QB1 numbers on a regular basis. But the era of Elite QBs having Elite value in QB1 leagues is likely in a downward spiral, if it already wasnt, for the next few years.

[Valhalla]

No death knell to my ways. Just a down year. Rodgers (the guy who is a top 3 every non-injury year but once) was again injured. Brady and Brees are slowing down as their arms lose some zip. I think it's more of a changing of the guard...there will again be elite level of play at QB, with the 1-3 QBs performing vastly better than the 6-8 range. Just like AB dominates over other "#1" (top 12) wrs, guys like Rodgers can still dominate (on a ppg basis) over other "#1" QBs.

[hockeyBjj]

Russell Wilson was a huge component in my Team 2 championship despite crappy standard scoring of only 4pts per TD and 25 yards passing per point

I prefer 1QB leagues with 6 point TD and 20 yards so they the top guys have some better separation from the mass at ~8-15

[ArrylT]

I prefer 6 point TDs regardless of whether it is 1 QB, 2 QB or Superflex.