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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby ArrylT » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:13 pm

JFever wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:49 am I'd be willing to bet that Olsen out produces Graham in fantasy scoring this year. Any takers? Hard to say anything about either of the two TE's after this season to be honest. but, yeah... 75's roster is locked and loaded. His stable of Rb is rock solid and very young. His Qb & Wr corp are excellent. If he wanted Graham, best thing to do is make him over pay a touch. Odds are that future 2nd will be near the 30th pick overall. Which is a small price to pay to get what he might feel is the last piece he needs to add to his contending team.
As an owner who sold Olsen I'll take that bet if the Commish allows side bets / conditional deals.

For example if you want to keep it small we could do $10 BB dollars each. IE if Graham outscores Olsen in 2018 in our leagues scoring, then in 2019 you'd owe me 10 of your BB Dollars. Whereas if Olsen outscores Graham, then you'd get 10 of my BB Dollars.

Conditional on

(a) Both players playing at least half the season
and
(b) playing in no more than 1 more game than the other.
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby thebeast » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:48 pm

ArrylT wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:13 pm
JFever wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:49 am I'd be willing to bet that Olsen out produces Graham in fantasy scoring this year. Any takers? Hard to say anything about either of the two TE's after this season to be honest. but, yeah... 75's roster is locked and loaded. His stable of Rb is rock solid and very young. His Qb & Wr corp are excellent. If he wanted Graham, best thing to do is make him over pay a touch. Odds are that future 2nd will be near the 30th pick overall. Which is a small price to pay to get what he might feel is the last piece he needs to add to his contending team.
As an owner who sold Olsen I'll take that bet if the Commish allows side bets / conditional deals.

For example if you want to keep it small we could do $10 BB dollars each. IE if Graham outscores Olsen in 2018 in our leagues scoring, then in 2019 you'd owe me 10 of your BB Dollars. Whereas if Olsen outscores Graham, then you'd get 10 of my BB Dollars.

Conditional on

(a) Both players playing at least half the season
and
(b) playing in no more than 1 more game than the other.
I don't think you can use BB for betting as it affects the whole league. You guys should work it out on the side with good ole cash, which isn't a league issue, but up to the two of you.

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby ArrylT » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:49 pm

Alas I do not gamble with real $ (ie I do not go to the casino or buy lottery tix for myself).
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Jfever » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:01 pm

Yeah, I see questions with both TE's. I guess I'm a bit old school and I often see people in fantasy circles having selective or very short memories. Yes, Olsen missed nearly the entire year last year, but, he is a 3 time 1,000 yard receiving TE. I don't believe that we can say the same about any other TE currently in the league. I think Olsen is and will continue to be Cam's #1 target when he is on the field. But, yes, I agree that Olsen has some red flags as well. It's never good when the rumor mill starts flowing with chatter about retirement or a player getting into broadcasting. And - It could very well work out nicely for Jimmy in GB. I guess I'm a touch skeptical and I'll have to see it. My gut just says that in GB it could be hit or miss with the offensive receiving weapons for everyone other than Adams. Like, big games scattered among several duds. Anyway, to be clear, I am an owner of both of these guys in a couple of my leagues so, I'd be happy if both of them did well. I'm wondering now if playing in GB at Lambo on the grass will have an impact on Jimmy. Good or bad? The late season weather, will that have an impact on him? I mean, yes, he's played away games on grass and in the late season obviously. But, the vast majority of his games up to this point have been in domes on artificial turf. He's never had a "bad" qb so, there is that.
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby sloth8u » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:37 pm

Didnt 75 trade away graham for the pick that landed barkley?

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby ArrylT » Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:25 am

That is one thing I like about MFL - it makes it pretty easy to check transaction history and see all the movement a player has made over the course of a league history. :)

So for Jimmy Graham in DLF HOF - he has now been traded 3x. The previous 2 trades occurred in a short time frame (2 in 5 months in 2017).

1st in June 2017
Seventy5 gave up Jimmy Graham, Jaleen Strong & a 2018 3rd
ericanadian gave up 3.08 in the 2017 rookie draft and his 2018 1st (which I assume became the 1.01)

then in October 2017
knotts gave Geronimo Allison & a 2nd
ericanadian gave up V. Davis & Jimmy Graham

So yeah a major value loss for ericanadian in 5 months - basically for the privilege of renting Graham he fell from 1.01 to 2.11 in the 2018 rookie draft - I can only assume he had originally thought his team was going to be a playoff contender and by October realized he had no realistic shot and wanted to recoup some sort of return ...
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby maxhyde » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:57 am

thebeast hard at work the past 24 hours making my week 1 matchup just a little more intimidating. Nice work

thebeast gave up Freeman, Devonta ATL RB;Hill, Tyreek KCC WR
Steveeb gave up Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB

followed by:

thebeast gave up Peterson, Adrian WAS RB;Meredith, Cameron NOS WR;Kroft, Tyler CIN TE; Year 2019 Round 2 Draft Pick from thebeast
dlf_jaronf gave up Ingram, Mark NOS RB;Smith, Rod DAL RB
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DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby thebeast » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:01 am

maxhyde wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:57 am thebeast hard at work today making my week 1 matchup just a little more intimidating. Nice work

thebeast gave up Freeman, Devonta ATL RB;Hill, Tyreek KCC WR
Steveeb gave up Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB

followed by:

thebeast gave up Peterson, Adrian WAS RB;Meredith, Cameron NOS WR;Kroft, Tyler CIN TE; Year 2019 Round 2 Draft Pick from thebeast
dlf_jaronf gave up Ingram, Mark NOS RB;Smith, Rod DAL RB
You missed one!

Jules gave up Anderson, Robby
thebeast gave up 2019 Round 1 Draft Pick from thebeast

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby maxhyde » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:13 am

Damn you are hard at work!
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby ArrylT » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:38 pm

I think the message to be learned is thebeast wants Seventy5 to enjoy finishing 2nd! ;)
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby ArrylT » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:39 pm

thebeast wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:01 am
maxhyde wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:57 am thebeast hard at work today making my week 1 matchup just a little more intimidating. Nice work

thebeast gave up Freeman, Devonta ATL RB;Hill, Tyreek KCC WR
Steveeb gave up Elliott, Ezekiel DAL RB

followed by:

thebeast gave up Peterson, Adrian WAS RB;Meredith, Cameron NOS WR;Kroft, Tyler CIN TE; Year 2019 Round 2 Draft Pick from thebeast
dlf_jaronf gave up Ingram, Mark NOS RB;Smith, Rod DAL RB
You missed one!

Jules gave up Anderson, Robby
thebeast gave up 2019 Round 1 Draft Pick from thebeast
That last one is actually my favorite. While I'd prefer a top 12 pick to Robby Anderson, if thebeast wins again, then pick #16 is a very decent price to pay for WR depth.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby thebeast » Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:29 pm

ArrylT wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:38 pm I think the message to be learned is thebeast wants Seventy5 to enjoy finishing 2nd! ;)
Literally this. I have been obsessing about Seventy5’s team and I wanted a chance to try and repeat. I had a Limitless moment last night where things kind of fell into place and I think I was able to come up with deals that were right within that range of being good for both sides (interestingly I was close to closing deals with a few other owners, so maybe I gave up value all around, lol). I think I got some value in some deal and think I gave a little in others. All in all I think I made my team better. But I do think 3 deals in a 12 hour time frame in a 16 team league with experienced owners is pretty sweet!

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Dookmarriot » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:37 am

You almost had me. Almost!
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby ArrylT » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:49 am

thebeast continues to make noise!

JFever sends Delanie Walker
thebeast sends Hayden Hurst
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Jfever » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:29 am

Open to offers / discussion for Gronk. Would need a combination of a Qb prospect, and a usable TE, and a pick.
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