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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby ericanadian » Wed May 10, 2017 3:21 pm

Plank wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 2:56 pm Yeah think the lesson if there is one here, is to always shop a guy around before finalizing a deal ..

Panthers according to Sharp Stats has the best schedule for next year ... and his formula is wayyy more involved then yards and records .. With just that knowledge I'd probably have given more value for Cam myself.

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I did look at your roster, but Hooper & Adams were the only guys really appealing to me. I figured I'd have to add on my side to get Adams and I didn't really see anything I could've added to Hooper that would've made sense.

This is interesting information. I'd be curious to see how they ranked his prior year schedule because looking solely at Passing n/YPA allowed, the teams he played weren't exactly elite last year.
All I Der Is Win - 16 Team IDP League (Pass TD 6pts)

QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Plank » Wed May 10, 2017 3:27 pm

You can sort by many different variables, I just used Pass Efficiency there.. (I like pass efficiency as a metric because it means the offense stays on the field :)

Here is the website: https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/2017 ... -off-.html
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby maxhyde » Wed May 10, 2017 3:52 pm

FiremanEd wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 11:35 am
I will note that I think a league in and of itself that can have this type of discussion and open exposure to deals and moves is great.
I mean you were definitely around when these leagues (DLF HOF and DLF Premium) were conceived and this was the idea. A public dlf league that could be discussed by all members of the forums...not that we are all claiming to be experts or somehow better than anyone else. I think my invitation may not have showed up if that were the case.

I am sure a few of my deals haven't been terrific either but it was understood that we would keep a running thread so forum users could follow along. They are leagues like any other leagues the only difference is all the players have a presence at the DLF forums

Anyway as far as the deal goes, I still believe Cam is a top QB but he wasn't shopped my way so I will assume that Lee may have been the primary target or I just didn't have any pieces eric was interested in. Hard to fault the rationalization behind the deal and if you have one target your options are somewhat limited in your return. I mean Lee was probably the Jags best (most efficient) WR last year after ARob and Hurns fell off the map. 144 starters is a ton of starters and only 16 are QB's so giving up top end assets isn't as easy as one might think
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby maxhyde » Tue May 30, 2017 7:50 am

75 been moving and shakin'

Seventy5 gave up Montgomery, Ty GBP RB
TitusYoung'sLawyer gave up Gathers, Rico DAL TE; Year 2018 Round 1 Draft Pick from TitusYoung'sLawyer;Year 2018 Round 2 Draft Pick from TitusYoung'sLawyer

Seventy5 gave up Walford, Clive OAK TE
TitusYoung'sLawyer gave up Year 2018 Round 3 Draft Pick from TitusYoung'sLawyer

Seventy5 gave up Washington, DeAndre OAK RB;Coates, Sammie PIT WR;Coleman, Corey CLE WR; Year 2017 Draft Pick 2.04
ericanadian gave up Hilton, T.Y. IND WR

Appears 75 is not a believer in Ty because he has no RB to start in his RB2 spot and Ty looks to have a safe floor in PPR.
TYL barely outside the playoffs last year so if this helps get him a few points those picks are later. Think all the deals work more or less for the teams involved.
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Madadamus » Tue May 30, 2017 9:20 am

I like all the trades for Siete. How did he get a pick for Walford?
12 Team PPR Dynasty - DLFS
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 QB/RB/WR/TE, 1 TE
QB: J. Burrow, M. Stafford, C. Wentz
RB: S. Barkley, D. Swift, J.K. Dobbins, C. Edwards-Helaire, R. Penny, G. Edwards, K. Drake
WR: T. Higgins, M. Evans, B. Aiyuk, C. Watson, K. Toney, M. Thomas, C. Ridley, C. Davis, J. Reagor
TE: D. Waller, E. Engram, H. Hurst, D. Njoku, G. Dulich, J. Akins
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 2nd (mid), 3rd, 4th, 4th (mid)

12 Team PPR Dynasty
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 QB/RB/WR/TE, 1 TE
QB: J. Herbert, M. Stafford, J. Winston, D. Lock, M. Mariota, J. Stidham, R. Fitzpatrick
RB: C. McCaffrey, A. Kamara, E. Elliott, J. Dobbin, J. Mixon, A. Mattison, J. White, L. Bell
WR: D. Moore, J. Jeudy, O. Beckham Jr., C. Claypool, C. Davis. D. Parker, L. Fitzgerald, B. Perriman, W. Snead
TE: E. Engram, C. Kmet, C. Herndon, K. Warring
2021 Picks: 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby maxhyde » Tue May 30, 2017 11:36 am

Walford is rostered in all my 16 team leagues. I don't expect he is irrelevant just yet...maybe soon but for now he probably has a role
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Seventy5 » Tue May 30, 2017 12:58 pm

maxhyde wrote: Tue May 30, 2017 7:50 am Seventy5 gave up Montgomery, Ty GBP RB
TitusYoung'sLawyer gave up Gathers, Rico DAL TE; Year 2018 Round 1 Draft Pick from TitusYoung'sLawyer;Year 2018 Round 2 Draft Pick from TitusYoung'sLawyer

Appears 75 is not a believer in Ty because he has no RB to start in his RB2 spot and Ty looks to have a safe floor in PPR.
TYL barely outside the playoffs last year so if this helps get him a few points those picks are later. Think all the deals work more or less for the teams involved.
I wouldn't say I'm not a believer in Ty Montgomery (heck, I think I made an offer to you for him in another league just two days ago, and I owned him in 4 of 5 leagues, now 3.), but I liked the value there.

@TYL has done a good job plugging holes and finding production, but I think he's an injury to one of Wilson/DeMarco/Jordy away from missing the playoffs (secondary starters are Hyde/Montgomery/Emmanuel/JuliusT, but things are thin on proven production after that). This deal, ultimately, was me paying 1.10-1.16+2.10-2.16 prices for a pair of picks that have a chance to become 1.02-1.08+2.02-2.08.

I went all-in on picks to build my team when we started this league, but I chose the two worst rookie classes in recent years to do that with (2015+2016) so Im trying to spread things out a little. I like the 2017-2018 classes quite a bit more, so hopefully a combined 1/1/1/1/2/2/2/2/3/3/3/3/3/3 plugs at least two holes.
DLF HOF League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Deshaun Watson | Stafford | Purdy | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley |DeVon Achane | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Joe Mixon / Chase Brown | Tucker
WR: Tyreek Hill | Rashee Rice | Tank Dell
WR: Stefon Diggs | DeVonta Smith | MWilliams | Claypool | C Austin
TE: Higbee | Likely | Chig Okonkwo | Strange
2023: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3

DLF Premium League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Joe Burrow | Mayfield | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley | Tank Bigsby | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Aaron Jones | JK Dobbins | Sean Tucker
WR: Ja'Marr Chase | Christian Watson | Hyatt | Shenault
WR: Keenan Allen | Marquise Brown | Calvin Ridley | Addison | Claypool | C Jones | Shakir
TE: Sam LaPorta | Strange | Jonnu
2023: 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby maxhyde » Tue May 30, 2017 3:11 pm

Yeah...I mean everyone is one injury away from playoffs for the most part. Not a ton of teams with enough depth to cover the loss of a starter
I just thought the TY Hilton deal signalled you were going to shift gears and go for it in which case selling Montgomery made less sense to me.

I don't disagree it could be a really good price and given your picks this year maybe you won't need him as a a starter.
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Seventy5 » Tue May 30, 2017 3:25 pm

I guess Montgomery technically has RB1 (top 16) upside in a 16 teamer, but I'm not ready to rely on him as a starter yet. Plus, I have the 1.04 that could potentially fill the RB hole, although I'm not locked into anything yet.

I don't view myself as a contender yet, but I guess things could look slightly better if I were to add 2-3 more solid producers:

QB: Andrew Luck 
WR: TY Hilton
WR: Sammy Watkins
WR: Stefon Diggs 
RB: ?-1.04
RB: Tevin Coleman
TE: Jimmy Graham - Eric Ebron 
2017 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3
2018 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3
DLF HOF League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Deshaun Watson | Stafford | Purdy | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley |DeVon Achane | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Joe Mixon / Chase Brown | Tucker
WR: Tyreek Hill | Rashee Rice | Tank Dell
WR: Stefon Diggs | DeVonta Smith | MWilliams | Claypool | C Austin
TE: Higbee | Likely | Chig Okonkwo | Strange
2023: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3

DLF Premium League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Joe Burrow | Mayfield | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley | Tank Bigsby | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Aaron Jones | JK Dobbins | Sean Tucker
WR: Ja'Marr Chase | Christian Watson | Hyatt | Shenault
WR: Keenan Allen | Marquise Brown | Calvin Ridley | Addison | Claypool | C Jones | Shakir
TE: Sam LaPorta | Strange | Jonnu
2023: 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Seventy5 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:51 pm

Interesting draft week to say the least. Here is what everyone added to their rosters:

I like what Jaron did in the 2nd-3rd with Everett/Williams/Zamora. Dook added 7-8 1st round picks or value equivalents, which is always a good thing, but I expected it to look more impactful than it did.

Nation31:
-D’Onta Foreman (1.17)
-Marlon Mack (2.03)

Plank:
-OJ Howard (1.07)
-Bucky Hodges (3.09)
-James Conner (2.07)
-Dwayne Washington (trade)

Jules:
-Curtis Samuel (1.15)
-Eric Decker (trade)
-Aaron Jones (2.14)

the_Future:
-Cam Newton (trade)
-Wayne Gallman (2.16)

Titus Young’s Lawyer:
-No draft pick made
-TY Montgomery
-Clive Walford

Sloth8u:
-Leonard Fournette (1.02)
-Dalvin Cook (1.05)
-Joe Williams (2.01)
-Chris Godwin (2.02)
-ArDarius Stewart (3.01)
-Jake Butt (3.06)

Ericanadian:
-Mitchell Trubisky (2.04)
-DeShone Kizer (2.08)
-Corey Coleman (trade)
-John Ross (1.08)
-Jaelen Strong (trade)
-Marqise Lee (trade)
-George Kittle (3.16)
-Vernon Davis (trade)
-Jimmy Graham (trade)
-2018 3rd from Seventy5

Dookmariot:
-Corey Davis (1.01)
-Zay Jones (1.14)
-JuJu Smith-Schuster (1.16)
-John Brown (trade)
-Josh Reynolds (3.03)
-Christian McCaffery (1.03)
-Samaje Perine (1.11)
-Derrick Henry (trade)
-Evan Engram (1.13)
-@Sloth’s 2018 1st

Steeveb:
-Taywan Taylor (2.09)
-Carlos Henderson (2.13)
-David Njoku (1.09)
-Jonnu Smith (3.08)
-Donnel Pumphrey (3.12)
-@Dook’s 2018 2nd

Seventy5:
-Deshaun Watson (2.05)
-TY Hilton (trade)
-Mike Williams (1.06)
-Tavon Austin (trade)
-Joe Mixon (1.04)
-Alvin Kamara (1.12)
-Adam Shaheen (3.06)
-Rico Gathers (trade)
-@TYL’s 2018 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
-@Ericanadian’s 2018 1st
-@Steeveb’s 2018 2nd
-@Knotts’ 2018 3rd

Maxhyde:
-Jamaal Williams (2.11)
-Jeremy McNichols (2.12)
-LeGarrette Blount (trade)

Jfever24:
-Sam Bradford (Trade)
-Noah Brown (3.04)
-Cooper Kupp (3.05)
-Corey Clement (3.11)
-Devante Mays (3.13)

DLF_JaronF:
-Patrick Mahomes (2.06)
-Tevin Coleman (trade)
-Gerald Everett (2.15)
-Chad Williams (2.17)
-Ishmael Zamora (3.07)
-Dede Westbrook (3.15)
-Jonathan Williams (trade)

The Beast:
-No draft pick made

AuggieDoggies:
-Kareem Hunt (1.10)
-Kenny Golladay (2.10)
-Jehu Chesson (3.10)

Knotts4372:
-Brian Hill (3.14)
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DLF HOF League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Deshaun Watson | Stafford | Purdy | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley |DeVon Achane | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Joe Mixon / Chase Brown | Tucker
WR: Tyreek Hill | Rashee Rice | Tank Dell
WR: Stefon Diggs | DeVonta Smith | MWilliams | Claypool | C Austin
TE: Higbee | Likely | Chig Okonkwo | Strange
2023: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3

DLF Premium League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Joe Burrow | Mayfield | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley | Tank Bigsby | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Aaron Jones | JK Dobbins | Sean Tucker
WR: Ja'Marr Chase | Christian Watson | Hyatt | Shenault
WR: Keenan Allen | Marquise Brown | Calvin Ridley | Addison | Claypool | C Jones | Shakir
TE: Sam LaPorta | Strange | Jonnu
2023: 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Seventy5 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:52 pm

I'm curious to hear JFevers thoughts on Dallas WR Noah Brown. I haven't seen him selected in any of my leagues, so his selection at 3.04 grabbed my attention.
DLF HOF League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Deshaun Watson | Stafford | Purdy | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley |DeVon Achane | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Joe Mixon / Chase Brown | Tucker
WR: Tyreek Hill | Rashee Rice | Tank Dell
WR: Stefon Diggs | DeVonta Smith | MWilliams | Claypool | C Austin
TE: Higbee | Likely | Chig Okonkwo | Strange
2023: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3

DLF Premium League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Joe Burrow | Mayfield | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley | Tank Bigsby | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Aaron Jones | JK Dobbins | Sean Tucker
WR: Ja'Marr Chase | Christian Watson | Hyatt | Shenault
WR: Keenan Allen | Marquise Brown | Calvin Ridley | Addison | Claypool | C Jones | Shakir
TE: Sam LaPorta | Strange | Jonnu
2023: 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby maxhyde » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:01 am

He has gone in all my 16 team leagues, one 14 team league and one very deep 12 team league. Not unusual to see Noah Brown selected later in drafts.
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby Goirish374 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:20 pm

Did we miss the part where skip complains about this topic yet?
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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby maxhyde » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:40 pm

No idea.

I went into the draft with 2.11/2.15/3.15 after trading my 1st away last year and failing in the final game.
I tried/failed moving up basically from pick 2.08 on but ended up with the guy I was looking to pick up at 2.11 in Jamaal Williams. The I traded 2.15/3.15 for 2.12 and picked up Jeremy McNichols as well.
When the draft started I would have been happy knowing that would be my take so I am good with how the draft went for me. Added bonus CMike to IND and Lynch coming out of retirement so I actually ended up with 4 (maybe) RB's in the past week after ending last season with only DJ essentially. Super-stoked about that.
I should have a decent starting lineup but 0 depth unless one of the CMike/JWilliams/McNichols gains traction early or Gordon gets re-instated or Floyd isn't a tease in MIN.
Brees/DJ/Lynch/Cooper/Jeffery/DT/Rudolph and maybe flex Witten or one of the 5 above.

I am one injury away from sucking pretty badly I think
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams

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Re: HOF league discussion

Postby maxhyde » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:32 pm

So I am sucking pretty badly.

Anyone want to trade for DJ? Or trade me a RB?
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams


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