I do to. Williams looks like a bust to me. Tyrell is a decent WR, but I think Williams and his lack of athleticism and injury history scream bust to me.
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It’s interesting to see people just refer to “Williams” in a thread about two players whose last names are both Williams...as if we needed proof that UDFAs take a back seat
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Re: non-sexy topic: Tyrell Williams
If Tyrell Williams is going to succeed in 2018 it is likely like Adam Thielan did - a combination of opportunity, continued struggles/injuries from other WRs and himself taking another step forward.
So basically he'll need at least 2 of Allen, Benjamim & Williams to struggle (or be injured) as well as show he is ready for an increased role (vs being force fed due to last man standing).
It is certainy possible - but like others have alluded to - UDFAs have extra obstacles in their path to succeed, their time in the sun is usually shorter (because they have to keep proving it over & over) and there is usually a pedigreed player coming soon to replace them if they falter / injury.
If he is lucky though, he'll get a nice 2nd landing spot like Hurns or Hogan did.
So basically he'll need at least 2 of Allen, Benjamim & Williams to struggle (or be injured) as well as show he is ready for an increased role (vs being force fed due to last man standing).
It is certainy possible - but like others have alluded to - UDFAs have extra obstacles in their path to succeed, their time in the sun is usually shorter (because they have to keep proving it over & over) and there is usually a pedigreed player coming soon to replace them if they falter / injury.
If he is lucky though, he'll get a nice 2nd landing spot like Hurns or Hogan did.
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Re: non-sexy topic: Tyrell Williams
Bumping this. Imo the HH injury clears a path for a more prominent role for Tyrell. Mike Williams is overrated and Rivers has a rapport with Tyrell.
What's not to like here again? I see a guy who has a good shot at being the 2nd option in a pass happy offense, and who's in a contract year. He only has to beat out a guy who looked just plain bad as a rookie and has had some lingering injury issues.
What's not to like here again? I see a guy who has a good shot at being the 2nd option in a pass happy offense, and who's in a contract year. He only has to beat out a guy who looked just plain bad as a rookie and has had some lingering injury issues.
Re: non-sexy topic: Tyrell Williams
I think so long as Keenan Allen remains healthy, no other WR in SD's offense can reach better than fantasy WR3/4 value. Tyrell or Mike, doesn't matter. I don't think Henry's injury makes much of a difference, either. Except to Allen, that is, who presumably will now soak up even more targets between the hashmarks.
Tyrell is a boundary vertical weapon, and that has little overlap with Henry's usage. If trends since Whisenhunt took over as OC in '16 hold steady, Henry's injury should primarily benefit Allen and the running-backs' involvement as pass-catchers in the middle of the field.
Tyrell is a boundary vertical weapon, and that has little overlap with Henry's usage. If trends since Whisenhunt took over as OC in '16 hold steady, Henry's injury should primarily benefit Allen and the running-backs' involvement as pass-catchers in the middle of the field.
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Re: non-sexy topic: Tyrell Williams
Reading reports outa OTAs, Rivers continues to target TWill. Also, with the HH injury, all it takes is one of two WR's in MWilliams and KAllen to be hurt at one point or another for him to immediately jump into the WR2 conversation again. I see this more likely than not. Ironically, since I first created this thread, the owner has dropped him out right to make room for the rookie draft. He's on my list of FA's to bid on (no offseason bidding).
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Re: non-sexy topic: Tyrell Williams
I took him in the 10th round of a 12 teamer as my WR4 (deeper starting lineups, 4WR and flex each week) on a team I feel has a chance to contend out of the gate
Good depth guy to have, limited upside if you're trying for that area of player to possibly hit and be fantasy WR2s. Hoping he has a higher floor this coming year. Is a 15-20 then 3 weeks of 4 guy it seems. Needs more targets
Good depth guy to have, limited upside if you're trying for that area of player to possibly hit and be fantasy WR2s. Hoping he has a higher floor this coming year. Is a 15-20 then 3 weeks of 4 guy it seems. Needs more targets
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Re: non-sexy topic: Tyrell Williams
Where did you find that Rivers is targeting Twill? I own him in my league and all I hear is the buzz about Mike Williams being back.hjernazian wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:02 am Reading reports outa OTAs, Rivers continues to target TWill. Also, with the HH injury, all it takes is one of two WR's in MWilliams and KAllen to be hurt at one point or another for him to immediately jump into the WR2 conversation again. I see this more likely than not. Ironically, since I first created this thread, the owner has dropped him out right to make room for the rookie draft. He's on my list of FA's to bid on (no offseason bidding).
Re: non-sexy topic: Tyrell Williams
Anyone else hoping he’s traded to the Pats? Bill was interested enough in him to take a close look before he had done anything in the NFL. He may still be interested.
I wonder if the Pats also reached out to sign him as an UDFA...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.m ... sleepe.amp
I wonder if the Pats also reached out to sign him as an UDFA...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.m ... sleepe.amp
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Re: non-sexy topic: Tyrell Williams
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Re: non-sexy topic: Tyrell Williams
Playing all 3 positions in LAC is important .. all 3 WR's last year were split evenly whether it was the left, right or slot .. Until Mike Williams can play all 3 positions he won't take over the 3 WR, only other option I could see is they jam in the X, and let Keenan, with either Gazelle or Benjamin move around much like Diggs and Thielen ..
I also could see M Williams only being used in the red zone, like Gazelle, Keenan, and Benjamin between the 20s and then M Williams, Gazelle and Keenan in the red zone ..
I also could see M Williams only being used in the red zone, like Gazelle, Keenan, and Benjamin between the 20s and then M Williams, Gazelle and Keenan in the red zone ..
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Re: non-sexy topic: Tyrell Williams
Oh I'm not saying Tyrell is going to be taken over by Mike, or even that he can't be good in LA. I just think the Chargers might believe they don't need Tyrell (because they think highly of Mike) and I think I'd rather see Tyrell in NE.Plank wrote: ↑Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:58 am Playing all 3 positions in LAC is important .. all 3 WR's last year were split evenly whether it was the left, right or slot .. Until Mike Williams can play all 3 positions he won't take over the 3 WR, only other option I could see is they jam in the X, and let Keenan, with either Gazelle or Benjamin move around much like Diggs and Thielen ..
I also could see M Williams only being used in the red zone, like Gazelle, Keenan, and Benjamin between the 20s and then M Williams, Gazelle and Keenan in the red zone ..
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Re: non-sexy topic: Tyrell Williams
I think Tyrell is exactly the kind of guy who fits in NE. An under-utilized player whose advanced receiving and YAC metrics are among the best in the league. I think that's exactly where he goes next off-season.
Tyrell Williams - worth a 3rd since he's a free agent
Is Tyrell Williams worth trading a 3rd for. My thoughts are that he's 26 (be 27 by the beginning of next season) so he still has a few good years left in him and he's a free agent at the end of this season. I remember reading he was really good a few years ago when Allen was out and there is the hope he goes to a team that will used him a lot more than the Chargers do. What do you think?
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Re: Tyrell Williams - worth a 3rd since he's a free agent
Yes, I own him and wouldn’t give him up for a 3rd
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