2018 RB rookie discussion

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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:37 pm

AussieMate wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:41 pm
Tvols wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:31 am Went back and watched some more Jones and Sony tape. Originally I wasnt feeling Jones but the more I watch him man he has some fluid hips and turns on a dime.. better than Sony.. Cant wait to see the 40 time on both this guys and Jones looks like the better receiver too.. Man I wish he had 10-15 more lbs to him...
I agree watching them my only problem is if Jones had 10-15 more pounds Sony would be the one with the better turns. I just wish Sony didn't fumble so much, massive red flag
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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby Bot101 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:55 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:37 pm
AussieMate wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:41 pm
Tvols wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:31 am Went back and watched some more Jones and Sony tape. Originally I wasnt feeling Jones but the more I watch him man he has some fluid hips and turns on a dime.. better than Sony.. Cant wait to see the 40 time on both this guys and Jones looks like the better receiver too.. Man I wish he had 10-15 more lbs to him...
I agree watching them my only problem is if Jones had 10-15 more pounds Sony would be the one with the better turns. I just wish Sony didn't fumble so much, massive red flag
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I feel like that is a fact that's getting wholly unnoticed by most NFL fans and casual dynasty owners.
I wouldn't say unnoticed, more like downplayed. People want him to be the next Kamara so badly.

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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby nathanq42 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:40 pm

HE DOESNT PLAY LIKE KAMARA!!!!! Only person I've seen with the wiggle and balance that Kamara puts on display is John Kelly out of Tennessee, likely a good friend of Kamara's. They aren't terribly fast but they make guys miss like they are droids in star wars, and when they do get caught they are hard to bring down because of incredible balance. Michel and Jones are one cut speed guys (Jones has some better open field moves, Michel runs with more power). They are not players like Kamara, if you mean they are under the radar and are going to pop off next season there is a little hitch. They aren't under the radar..
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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby Bot101 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:46 pm

Im not saying I think Michel is like Kamara. But I've seen that comp everywhere. Its somewhat annoying.

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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby nathanq42 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:15 pm

I gotcha, just a psa for people that say Michel or Jones are the next Kamara.. imo jones is similar to Jamaal Charles, Michel like Tevin Coleman. Imo Kamara (and John kelly) are a kin to beast mode in that they are shift and hard to tackle and bring down
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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby Phaded » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:41 pm

Fumbling is something that can be coached with a good RB coach. Much like coaching Barkley to not bounce everything outside.

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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby Vcize » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:19 pm

Bot101 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:55 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:37 pm
AussieMate wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:41 pm

I agree watching them my only problem is if Jones had 10-15 more pounds Sony would be the one with the better turns. I just wish Sony didn't fumble so much, massive red flag
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I feel like that is a fact that's getting wholly unnoticed by most NFL fans and casual dynasty owners.
I wouldn't say unnoticed, more like downplayed. People want him to be the next Kamara so badly.
Didn't somebody post the numbers recently on the top college fumblers of the last few years and it was like a who's who list of current NFL stud RBs?
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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby Vcize » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:19 pm

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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby Defender » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:59 am

Vcize wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:19 pm
Bot101 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:55 pm ....
Didn't somebody post the numbers recently on the top college fumblers of the last few years and it was like a who's who list of current NFL stud RBs?
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For those (like me) too lazy to click on the link:
Just because he may have a higher than normal fumble rate shouldn't outweigh his overall skill as a player. Just looking back at players college stats from last years draft class that were drafted high and have a high fumble rate are players like:

Joe Mixon (fumbled every 73 carries)
Alvin Kamara (fumbled every 71 carries)
Dalvin cook (fumbled every 63 carries)
Marlon Mack (fumbled every 54 carries) -- wasn't drafted high but has FF value still
The standard is the standard.

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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby Bot101 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:52 pm

Is there a possibility Chubb can ever be the same guy he was pre injury? Can he be more than a 2 down thumper?

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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby nathanq42 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:18 pm

If he runs under 4.5 he is right there with Guice, michel, and Jones unless they do something equally amazing
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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:55 pm

^^^ Agreed I think he has the floor of Samaje Perine and the ceiling of Dalvin Cook
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
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BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
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HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
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HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby Bot101 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:07 pm

Hes all over the place in rankings. Either 1.03 or 1.10. Im trying to find an excuse not to draft Guice. I dont know why exactly I am so low on him.

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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby clarion contrarion » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:12 pm

I say he does a moses malone for you oldsters ..... 4.44 ! for chubb
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Re: 2018 RB rookie discussion

Postby spotxc » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:36 pm

I’m gonna go 4.47


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