Dez vs. Thielen?

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Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby joeday » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:22 pm

So I just traded dez for thielen and am I wrong thinking it's a steal? What do you guys think of the two?
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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby noahb » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:41 pm

Great trade! Only thing I am questioning is why the owner wanted to give up Thielen? Its a steal going forward! Good work!
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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:25 pm

NoahBagoa wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:41 pm Great trade! Only thing I am questioning is why the owner wanted to give up Thielen? Its a steal going forward! Good work!
I agree. Dez's name is propping up his value. It's only going to fall more over time
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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby Raymond1974 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:36 pm

I would say you got the better end of the trade! Thielen is on fire right now and isn't showing any signs of slowing down!

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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby BhamRudy » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:39 pm

If you took the names away it's a for sure steal.

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It's just the fact the title says Dez! Makes it seem way closer than what it really is. Dez was a legend in the dynasty community for awhile.
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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:11 am

I'm willing to take the plunge on Thielen, hoping this is for real over the next 3-4 years. Still a Dez supporter tho, as y'all know
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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:15 am

NoahBagoa wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:41 pm Great trade! Only thing I am questioning is why the owner wanted to give up Thielen? Its a steal going forward! Good work!
Well regardless of how I view the trade, I can totally see the logic that would make someone sell AT for Dez. At first glance it's your classic buying low on a perennial stud, and selling high on a guy who's lighting the NFL on fire but maybe he's worried that it's fluky, and why didn't he break out sooner, and now that he's 27 will he start declining in another year or 2, etc
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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby Pac_Eddy » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:22 am

Yeah, that's a great trade. Dez, for whatever reason, just isn't producing the last few seasons. I think Thielen, while breaking out at age 27, will be solid for several years.
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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby RB6 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:21 am

Thielen easily.
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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby Cameron Giles » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:49 am

Dez hasn't been really good since Romo started struggling with injuries. Him and Prescott don't seem to be a good fit, for whatever reason. I get this trade to win today, but I'm not so sure that Dez doesn't have a lot of juice left.

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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby dynastyninja » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:11 am

I'm stubborn, but I'd still take Dez here. Thielen is nowhere near as talented as Dez. Situation is everything here, and I completely understand why Thielen has passed Dez, but I can't do it.

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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby joeya2001 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:43 pm

dynastyninja wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:11 am I'm stubborn, but I'd still take Dez here. Thielen is nowhere near as talented as Dez. Situation is everything here, and I completely understand why Thielen has passed Dez, but I can't do it.
I beg to differ, Thielen is a great rout runner, if anything he has the making of a Jordy Nelson.

Maybe 2-3 years ago id say yea no brainer, but Dez is just big, he cannot create separation. Don't you think if he was open Dak would get him the ball?

I know hes been hurt a lot but the last 2 years Dez hasn't got over 1k in yards, and its looking like its going to be year 3.

Maybe its injuries that hamper his big play ability but hes not the same guy he was 3 years ago.

Going forward id put Theilen as WR 1/2 and dez more of a 2/3
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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby skip » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:47 pm

I don't know why people keep harping on Dez about separation. That was never his game. He won on physicality. The injuries have sapped some of those physical skills. This was evident even before Romo retired. Thielen is a safe high floor return.
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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby joeya2001 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:50 pm

I only bring up Separation because in todays football that's what is winning, its obvious with Amari Cooper as well. Press Coverage on the guy and this is what you get.

guys who can and know how to run routes and create separation are what I want long term.
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Re: Dez vs. Thielen?

Postby Space Cowboy » Fri Nov 24, 2017 1:06 pm

One is explosive and producing, the other is neither.


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