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Re: Jobs

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 5:15 pm
by lukkynumber13
cowboysfan wrote:
Mon May 22, 2017 4:43 pm
I'm an academic advisor at a community college. I like my job a lot and have three degrees...but so what. I also have a large amount of college debt that will probably never get paid. Imo college is not worth it. I would gladly hand my degrees and debt back to where it all came from for a lesser job. College can be very overrated and is definitely over priced. My job requires a masters degree but in all honesty, an employee at a dollar general store could do what I do.
I appreciate the honesty! My dad and oldest brother are both financial advisors/retirement planners who work for themselves. They guide millions of dollars and map out the futures of some of the most influential people in the state, and yet, no degree is required to do what they do.

My brother got his degree in biochemistry because he originally wanted to get into medicine, so he has a degree but doesn't use it!

Re: Jobs

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:29 pm
by jnappy
I'm 25, I've been married for three years, and no kids yet. I work for myself in an electronics buyback and repair business I started with a buddy in college. We've been doing it now for three years full-time and I love every second of it because of the autonomy and flexibility it allows. I have a BS in Industrial Engineering, but I hardly use anything I learned in school day-to-day outside of Excel. I agree with what a lot of people have said - I don't think college should be viewed as such a requirement ESPECIALLY if it means taking out debt. If you know what you want to do, and it truly requires a degree, work through school to pay for it yourself and take out as little debt as possible. Working your butt off for 4-5 years to get out with no debt will be well worth it in the future. If you don't know for sure what you want to do, I'd put off college and get jobs in fields you think you might be interested in, and who knows, maybe you'll find something you love where you don't need a degree.

Re: Jobs

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:57 pm
by lukkynumber13
jnappy wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:29 pm
I'm 25, I've been married for three years, and no kids yet. I work for myself in an electronics buyback and repair business I started with a buddy in college. We've been doing it now for three years full-time and I love every second of it because of the autonomy and flexibility it allows. I have a BS in Industrial Engineering, but I hardly use anything I learned in school day-to-day outside of Excel. I agree with what a lot of people have said - I don't think college should be viewed as such a requirement ESPECIALLY if it means taking out debt. If you know what you want to do, and it truly requires a degree, work through school to pay for it yourself and take out as little debt as possible. Working your butt off for 4-5 years to get out with no debt will be well worth it in the future. If you don't know for sure what you want to do, I'd put off college and get jobs in fields you think you might be interested in, and who knows, maybe you'll find something you love where you don't need a degree.
I love this whole post so much!

And mad props to you for starting your own business! That's awesome.

Re: Jobs

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:23 am
by jtd1387
That isn't surprising, Nappy. IOE majors (In Out Easy/ Industrial Operation Engineers) don't learn much in college anyway :P

I am an automotive engineer for a Japanese company, with a BS in mechanical engineering. My job is not very exciting or fulfilling; in fact, it is boring most of the time, but it is a steady paycheck for me and my family and takes us to interesting places around the world. So while I am not passionate about my job, I do it well in order to fund the things I am passionate about :D

I agree with most that college isn't for everyone, and you shouldn't go into debt until you really know what you want to do and have a plan to do it. That said, having a Bachelor's in something opens a lot of doors for you, even if it doesn't provide you as much applicable knowledge as it could. As just one example, you could get a decent paying job in Japan or another country teaching English with any Bachelor's degree, and could have an awesome experience of living overseas for a little while as you figure out your career path after school. So while you shouldn't rush into debt, I think it is a great idea to get as many college credits as you can for free or cheaply when available (e.g. AP courses, scholarships, CLEP tests, etc.). You may never use them, but they may open a door to something perfect for you.

Re: Jobs

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:37 am
by lukkynumber13
jtd1387 wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:23 am
I agree with most that college isn't for everyone, and you shouldn't go into debt until you really know what you want to do and have a plan to do it. That said, having a Bachelor's in something opens a lot of doors for you, even if it doesn't provide you as much applicable knowledge as it could. As just one example, you could get a decent paying job in Japan or another country teaching English with any Bachelor's degree, and could have an awesome experience of living overseas for a little while as you figure out your career path after school. So while you shouldn't rush into debt, I think it is a great idea to get as many college credits as you can for free or cheaply when available (e.g. AP courses, scholarships, CLEP tests, etc.). You may never use them, but they may open a door to something perfect for you.
Really good point, and well-said.

Re: Jobs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:34 pm
by millworkguy
40 years old, service/installations manager for a design Firm. Married with 2 kids, Worked my way through university in the trades, and loved working with my hands. My uni degree (geography and minor in economics) helped me get off the shop floor -> lead hand, shop foreman, production manager then vice president before i left the company and went back to building cabinets again (then into this role). The job i started 20 plus years ago is obsolete due to technology but being able to diagnose a problem, coming up with multiple solutions , developing and implementing the right solution, and seeing it get done were concepts started in university, and backed up by my experience. I don't make the money i did as a vice president, i don't work the hours, i can turn off my phone, but the experience i got going through university allowed me to work my way off the floor, and to a better career. I never expect to be rolling in money, but not worried about paying next months bills, nor about finding another place of employment either (if i have to).

Re: Jobs

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:15 am
by nyterp
34 years old with a 14 month old son. Currently a court social worker. I do evaluations of potentially mentally ill defendants to try to get them out of jail and into treatment. BA in Criminology and Criminal Justice, BA in Psychology, MSW in Social Work. When I was looking at colleges I wanted to be an architect and I only looked at schools with good architecture programs. Lasted about 5 or 6 weeks into the first semester and realized I no longer wanted to be an architect. I was fortunate that I landed was at a school with one of the top CCJS programs in the country and the switch was easy. I think I read the average person switches majors something like 2.7 times, so most people/kids have no idea what they want to do when they start college. I was lucky that I could make the switch and still get the two degrees in 4 years because school always came easy to me, but if I couldn't it would have resulted in a lot more debt (parents helped out a ton and worked some so I had very little debt when I graduated). Got the MSW paid for (and the wife got her doctoral degree paid for as well), but it took us years to pay off her undergrad loans. I am thrilled where I am now, but it took a few jobs to get here. The wife and I often play the game of what would we study now if we could go back and do it again. I think I would do the same thing because I am happy with the eventual outcome, but in all seriousness I don't think I learned a ton in either undergrad or grad school. Continuing education and real life experience have been much more helpful.

Re: Jobs

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:28 am
by dlf_bruiser
I like this thread. Great community here. I'm 36 been married for 13. Five kids ages 4,6,8,11,12. I've been in electrical construction since I was 19. Got into one of the strongest union shops in the country at age 21 and have been incredibly blessed to have stayed the course there. I went to Purdue at age 17 to pursue a career in contracting, but opted out after one $3,000 semester (after grants).... best decision in my life at that point. Getting straight to work in a trade allowed me to buy a fixer-upper first home at age 19. This attracted many willing (non-college) girls. I set my sights on the most beautiful and debt-free mate I'd ever seen. I just bought her a pair of big jugs for her 13 good years of service.

I know it's not for everyone, but working with your hands is probably the most rewarding career a man can have. It is a learned skill and takes some time to hone, but it's definitely not going out of style. I would really recommend a union trade school if you are under the age of 30 and find that college is not for you. I enjoy the benefits of a very competitive wage, gold-standard health insurance for my wife and kids, a pension, and an IRA. I also have a keen sense of belonging to a brotherhood of 1,000 other like-minded family men in my little corner of Indiana (Chicagoland). I am proud to be a part of the most-skilled and dedicated labor force in the world, and I owe it all to my local union.

Re: Jobs

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:00 pm
by slacker
I'm 50 yrs old and currently stay at home dad. After fixing fighter jets for 4 years in the Air Force I got a degree in Theology. Wanted to be a missionary but health issues forced my resignation. Have been in retail (ugh), plumbing, sawmill manager, and Information Technology. Got married 7 year ago to a woman with a PhD that is a scientist in the food industry. She asked me to put my career on hold while she pursued hers and since she has tons more earning power than I do it works out well. What I plan on telling my kids is that only about half the people with college degrees end up doing what they went to college for and while you can make better money, if you have to go into a ton of debt to get the degree you might be better off choosing another path. Personally I think the best bang for the buck is in the trades. If you are young and can hustle you can usually find an apprentice job at a place that will pay for your schooling. Once you are licensed you can either work for the man or start your own business and (hopefully) make the big bucks. I have relatives in the trades with their own businesses that I know are pulling down well into six figures. Jobs in the trades are extremely mobile as well. If you want to move to a different part of country you can always find a job as a plumber/electrician/builder.

Re: Jobs

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:13 pm
by murphysxm
42, married with 2 kids. I work for a fortune 500 company as a national account rep. No degree means no interview with my company. Not saying college is for everybody, but you 100% limit your career aspirations in many fields without a degree.

Re: Jobs

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:06 pm
by Dodo
I am 26, no married and work in small company as civil engineer in Croatia