SF 0.5ppr 10 team Rookie Draft Completed + Blockbuster

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SF 0.5ppr 10 team Rookie Draft Completed + Blockbuster

Postby mild » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:52 am

We just completed our SF rookie draft today. The morning of the draft I pulled the trigger on a blockbuster...

Gave up: Tyreek Hill, C-Mac and K. Rudolph

Got: Sterling Shephard, Hunter Henry, 1.05, 2.05, 2019 1st, 2019 2nd

Here's the draft - you can see I'm all in for 2019. I'll be looking to buy the first stud RB that goes down this year.

1.01 Barkley, Saquon NYG RB (R)
1.02 Penny, Rashaad SEA RB (R)
1.03 Guice, Derrius WAS RB (R)
1.04 Jackson, Lamar BAL QB (R)
1.05 Chubb, Nick CLE RB (R)

1.06 Michel, Sony NEP RB (R)
1.07 Freeman, Royce DEN RB (R)
1.08 Jones, Ronald TBB RB (R)
1.09 Moore, D.J. CAR WR (R)
1.10 Mayfield, Baker CLE QB (R)
2.01 Rosen, Josh ARI QB (R)
2.02 Darnold, Sam NYJ QB (R)
2.03 Allen, Josh BUF QB (R)
2.04 Ridley, Calvin ATL WR (R)
2.05 Sutton, Courtland DEN WR (R)
2.06 Gallup, Michael DAL WR (R)
2.07 Miller, Anthony CHI WR (R)
2.08 Johnson, Kerryon DET RB (R)
2.09 Kirk, Christian ARI WR (R)
2.10 Gesicki, Mike MIA TE (R)
3.01 Pettis, Dante SFO WR (R)
3.02 Washington, James PIT WR (R)
3.03 Hurst, Hayden BAL TE (R)
3.04 Rudolph, Mason PIT QB (R)
3.05 Lasley, Jordan BAL WR (R)
3.06 Hines, Nyheim IND RB (R)
3.07 Chark, D.J. JAC WR (R)
3.08 Goedert, Dallas PHI TE (R)
3.09 St. Brown, Equanimeous GBP WR (R)
3.10 Kelly, John LAR RB (R)
4.01 Lauletta, Kyle NYG QB (R)
4.02 Ballage, Kalen MIA RB (R)
4.03 Callaway, Antonio CLE WR (R)
4.04 Moore, J'Mon GBP WR (R)
4.05 Coutee, Keke HOU WR (R)
4.06 Andrews, Darren NEP WR (R)
4.07 Andrews, Mark BAL TE (R)
4.08 Smith, Tre'Quan NOS WR (R)
4.09 Carlson, Daniel MIN PK (R)
4.10 Wilkins, Jordan IND RB (R)
5.01 Walton, Mark CIN RB (R)
5.02 Timer Expired (Roster limit)
5.03 Cain, Deon IND WR (R)
5.04 Scott, Boston NOS RB (R)
5.05 Hamilton, DaeSean DEN WR (R)
5.06 Adams, Josh PHI RB (R)
5.07 James, Richie SFO WR (R)
5.08 Smith, Ito ATL RB (R)
5.09 Akins, Jordan HOU TE (R)
5.10 Jackson, Justin LAC RB (R)
10 team .5 PPR SF

QB - Mahomes, Jackson, Hurts, Zach Wilson
RB - Saquon, Chubb, AJD, Dobbins, Penny, Gio, T. Jones
WR - Hill, AJB, Diggs, Sutton, Jeudy, Bateman, Watkins, Slayton, Callaway
TE - Goedert, Pitts, OJH, Cook
Taxi - Mims, D. Brown, Jacob Harris

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Re: SF 0.5ppr 10 team Rookie Draft Completed + Blockbuster

Postby moishetreats » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:28 am

Forgetting whether or not I believe that the trade was good value, I'm not sure how this trade helps you in 2019. You trade away two players who have proven something in the NFL in Hill and CMC for unproven rookies and future picks. As much as I love the acquisition of Henry, you already have Howard there.

In the aggregate, how does this help you in 2019? Or are you planning to use all those acquired picks to trade for players injured in-season? If so, then it's a path... but then you're relying on a team where you hope that every injured player returns healthy in time for the next season.

Again, I'm not commenting specifically on the value of the trade but rather am asking how this trade aligns with the goal that you put forth? I'm just not seeing it...
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: SF 0.5ppr 10 team Rookie Draft Completed + Blockbuster

Postby mmass » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:31 am

Yikes I hate this deal for you... Hill and CMC for almost nothing in my perspective. I hope he at least gave you a kiss afterward.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: SF 0.5ppr 10 team Rookie Draft Completed + Blockbuster

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:26 pm

1. Don't like that trade at all. I would've much rather kept Hill and McCaffrey.
2. Mayfield falling to 1.10 in superflex is pretty ridiculous.
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: SF 0.5ppr 10 team Rookie Draft Completed + Blockbuster

Postby mild » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:27 pm

I did expect a fair bit of hate for the trade... it's fair enough. I did the typical Dynasty thing and valued the unknown of picks over the known. I'll explain my decision making as best I can, though:

1. I'm not truly setup to win this year. Nearly all of my key skill players I'm relying on (Mahomes, Mariota, Foreman, Burton, etc) are still young and improving, and could use things going their way to establish value. My team is nice on paper, but it's not going to compete with the juggernauts in this league (an example team: Jimmy G, Matt Ryan, D. Cook, L. Fournette, J. McKinnon, R. Jones, OBJ, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, M. Lee, G Tate, T. Kelce, E. Ebron, Jags D) - realizing where I'm at realistically in my rebuild, I should be in asset creation / flip mode, and be hunting for a true #1 runner.

2. I sold high on two guys that I didn't draft and didn't particularly like. T. Hill could come back to haunt me - I do think he is good, if a distasteful human. I'm not crying if he goes off this year though - because I have Mahomes, thus I figure I retain partial investment if it is a best case, and divests me of risk if it's all a bust in KC this year. C-Mac I did not want any part of; he feels like a constant injury risk to me - though I do appreciate I could be wrong, I elected to take what value I could get. Ultimately, the one constant of value... is that if you're on top of the world, the only way is down. I chose to sell high whilst looking to the future and I can own that.

3. I'm setup to tank like a beast this year with a young team that should age into contention - or at least continue to establish positive long-term value. I'm irrationally confident about Hunter Henry riding my PUP bench for a year, and getting Lamar Jackson is a total win for me - I just wanted to be on that train. I said I'm all in for 2019 - because nearly every player I took has a better long term outlook than short-term. Chubb, L-Jax, Sutton - and even Ito Smith and Dallas Goedart - project as players that will properly challenge for #1 roles in a years time. Between now and then, via the extra picks and if any of my players blow up into stars - I will hope to land a Gurley or similar.

Ultimately you can hate that I gave up 2 studs - but I'm taking the long term view and trying to gamble to make something truly great. I don't see how I'll crack the top 3 in this league otherwise. *applies flame suit, braces for impact*
10 team .5 PPR SF

QB - Mahomes, Jackson, Hurts, Zach Wilson
RB - Saquon, Chubb, AJD, Dobbins, Penny, Gio, T. Jones
WR - Hill, AJB, Diggs, Sutton, Jeudy, Bateman, Watkins, Slayton, Callaway
TE - Goedert, Pitts, OJH, Cook
Taxi - Mims, D. Brown, Jacob Harris

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Re: SF 0.5ppr 10 team Rookie Draft Completed + Blockbuster

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:34 am

1. I understand your concerns by Ty Hill, but he did nothing last but back up his rookie campaign.
2. C-Mac a perpetual injury risk? I assume you are basing that off of the fact that he is 205-210 lbs and suffered a total of zero injuries last year?
3. Overall I think the trade was not good for your team, and you talk about long term, but Ty Hill and CMC are young and could have easily been two pieces to build around LONG TERM.
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06

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Re: SF 0.5ppr 10 team Rookie Draft Completed + Blockbuster

Postby joeya2001 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:58 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:26 pm 1. Don't like that trade at all. I would've much rather kept Hill and McCaffrey.
2. Mayfield falling to 1.10 in superflex is pretty ridiculous.
Lamar Jackson fell to 2.06 I my SF, I don't understand it either.
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR 1TE, Super Flex, 2 Flex Spots. 10 Team Dynasty PPR

2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs

QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.

Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF

2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
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Re: SF 0.5ppr 10 team Rookie Draft Completed + Blockbuster

Postby joeya2001 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:59 am

mild wrote: Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:27 pm I did expect a fair bit of hate for the trade... it's fair enough. I did the typical Dynasty thing and valued the unknown of picks over the known. I'll explain my decision making as best I can, though:

1. I'm not truly setup to win this year. Nearly all of my key skill players I'm relying on (Mahomes, Mariota, Foreman, Burton, etc) are still young and improving, and could use things going their way to establish value. My team is nice on paper, but it's not going to compete with the juggernauts in this league (an example team: Jimmy G, Matt Ryan, D. Cook, L. Fournette, J. McKinnon, R. Jones, OBJ, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, M. Lee, G Tate, T. Kelce, E. Ebron, Jags D) - realizing where I'm at realistically in my rebuild, I should be in asset creation / flip mode, and be hunting for a true #1 runner.

2. I sold high on two guys that I didn't draft and didn't particularly like. T. Hill could come back to haunt me - I do think he is good, if a distasteful human. I'm not crying if he goes off this year though - because I have Mahomes, thus I figure I retain partial investment if it is a best case, and divests me of risk if it's all a bust in KC this year. C-Mac I did not want any part of; he feels like a constant injury risk to me - though I do appreciate I could be wrong, I elected to take what value I could get. Ultimately, the one constant of value... is that if you're on top of the world, the only way is down. I chose to sell high whilst looking to the future and I can own that.

3. I'm setup to tank like a beast this year with a young team that should age into contention - or at least continue to establish positive long-term value. I'm irrationally confident about Hunter Henry riding my PUP bench for a year, and getting Lamar Jackson is a total win for me - I just wanted to be on that train. I said I'm all in for 2019 - because nearly every player I took has a better long term outlook than short-term. Chubb, L-Jax, Sutton - and even Ito Smith and Dallas Goedart - project as players that will properly challenge for #1 roles in a years time. Between now and then, via the extra picks and if any of my players blow up into stars - I will hope to land a Gurley or similar.

Ultimately you can hate that I gave up 2 studs - but I'm taking the long term view and trying to gamble to make something truly great. I don't see how I'll crack the top 3 in this league otherwise. *applies flame suit, braces for impact*
That's typical? I do the complete opposite lol
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR 1TE, Super Flex, 2 Flex Spots. 10 Team Dynasty PPR

2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs

QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.

Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF

2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
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