Value of Lamar Jackson

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Value of Lamar Jackson

Postby CheddarBayBiscuits » Wed May 16, 2018 5:39 am

For the team in my sig, I hold the 1.10 in a Superflex draft that has gone:
1.01 - Barkley (me)
1.02 - Mayfield
1.03 - Rosen
1.04 - Freeman
1.05 - Darnold

I pick next at 1.10 and am guaranteed one of my 5 targets: Lamar Jackson, Derrius Guice, Rashad Penny, Nick Chubb or D.J. Moore.

Given my current QB situation (Wilson, Mariota, Tannehill) - how would you guys value Jackson vs the other four prospects for my team.

I think I have it something like Guice ... Penny ... Jackson ... Chubb ... Moore

12 team IDP SFlex league

Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SUPERFLEX 2FLEX | 2DL 2LB 2DB 2IDPFLEX

PICKS:
- 2022 - 1.03, 1.11, 2.01, 2.03, 2.05, 2.06, 2.07, 2.12, 3.06, 3.08, 3.09
- 2023 - 5 1sts, 2nd, 3 3rds, 4th
- 2024 - 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 3rd, 4th

QB: Kyler Murray, Tyler Huntley, Kellen Mond
RB: Jeff Wilson, Chris Evans, Justin Jackson, Duke Johnson, Kylin Hill, JaMycal Hasty, Craig Reynolds, Ameer Abdullah, Derrick Gore, Devontae Booker
WR: AJ Brown, Rashod Bateman, Gabriel Davis, Anthony Schwartz, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Tyler Johnson, Quez Watkins, Lynn Bowden, Byron Pringle, Ashton Dulin, James Washington, Freddie Swain, Dez Fitzpatrick, James Proche
TE: Cole Kmet, Hayden Hurst, Dan Arnold, Josh Deguara

Taxi: Jordan Love (QB), Ihmir Smith-Marsette (WR), Hunter Long (TE), Brevin Jordan (TE)

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Re: Value of Lamar Jackson

Postby joeya2001 » Wed May 16, 2018 7:22 am

Based on your team, I would go with a WR,

Cooks could be meh this year
AR is coming off a Injury
and we still need to see a step from Corey Davis
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR 1TE, Super Flex, 2 Flex Spots. 10 Team Dynasty PPR

2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs

QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.

Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF

2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
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Re: Value of Lamar Jackson

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed May 16, 2018 7:32 am

WOW. Freeman at 4?? I'd rank them Penny, Guice, Jackson, Chubb, Moore.
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Value of Lamar Jackson

Postby CheddarBayBiscuits » Wed May 16, 2018 7:44 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 7:32 am WOW. Freeman at 4?? I'd rank them Penny, Guice, Jackson, Chubb, Moore.
Yeah - home league where valuations are all over the place. Makes it interesting

12 team IDP SFlex league

Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SUPERFLEX 2FLEX | 2DL 2LB 2DB 2IDPFLEX

PICKS:
- 2022 - 1.03, 1.11, 2.01, 2.03, 2.05, 2.06, 2.07, 2.12, 3.06, 3.08, 3.09
- 2023 - 5 1sts, 2nd, 3 3rds, 4th
- 2024 - 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 3rd, 4th

QB: Kyler Murray, Tyler Huntley, Kellen Mond
RB: Jeff Wilson, Chris Evans, Justin Jackson, Duke Johnson, Kylin Hill, JaMycal Hasty, Craig Reynolds, Ameer Abdullah, Derrick Gore, Devontae Booker
WR: AJ Brown, Rashod Bateman, Gabriel Davis, Anthony Schwartz, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Tyler Johnson, Quez Watkins, Lynn Bowden, Byron Pringle, Ashton Dulin, James Washington, Freddie Swain, Dez Fitzpatrick, James Proche
TE: Cole Kmet, Hayden Hurst, Dan Arnold, Josh Deguara

Taxi: Jordan Love (QB), Ihmir Smith-Marsette (WR), Hunter Long (TE), Brevin Jordan (TE)

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Re: Value of Lamar Jackson

Postby CheddarBayBiscuits » Wed May 16, 2018 7:45 am

joeya2001 wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 7:22 am Based on your team, I would go with a WR,

Cooks could be meh this year
AR is coming off a Injury
and we still need to see a step from Corey Davis
Yeah, definitely need a WR. Just not sure if I'm making too much of a BPA concession to draft a need there

12 team IDP SFlex league

Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SUPERFLEX 2FLEX | 2DL 2LB 2DB 2IDPFLEX

PICKS:
- 2022 - 1.03, 1.11, 2.01, 2.03, 2.05, 2.06, 2.07, 2.12, 3.06, 3.08, 3.09
- 2023 - 5 1sts, 2nd, 3 3rds, 4th
- 2024 - 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 3rd, 4th

QB: Kyler Murray, Tyler Huntley, Kellen Mond
RB: Jeff Wilson, Chris Evans, Justin Jackson, Duke Johnson, Kylin Hill, JaMycal Hasty, Craig Reynolds, Ameer Abdullah, Derrick Gore, Devontae Booker
WR: AJ Brown, Rashod Bateman, Gabriel Davis, Anthony Schwartz, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Tyler Johnson, Quez Watkins, Lynn Bowden, Byron Pringle, Ashton Dulin, James Washington, Freddie Swain, Dez Fitzpatrick, James Proche
TE: Cole Kmet, Hayden Hurst, Dan Arnold, Josh Deguara

Taxi: Jordan Love (QB), Ihmir Smith-Marsette (WR), Hunter Long (TE), Brevin Jordan (TE)

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Re: Value of Lamar Jackson

Postby Pete Carroll's Gum » Wed May 16, 2018 9:45 am

I'm in a 2QB league and have pick 1.03. If Mayfield goes at 1.02, I'm strongly considering taking Lamar.

He will end up starting by next year, if not this year. I'd say go for it! He's too much value to pass up if he is there at 1.10!
Team 1
12 Team, 2 QB, PPR
2QB, 2WR, 2RB, 1TE, 2 Flex

QB: Jackson, Kyler, Richardson, Levis, Willis, Trask
RB: Walker, Miller, Spears, Ford, Chandler
WR: Pickens, Lockett, Cooks, Rice, Wilson, Downs, Hodgins, Ross, Tolbert, Hutchinson
TE: LaPorta, Engram, Dulcich, Woods, Ferguson
Draft Picks:
2024: 1st (2x), 2nd (x3), 4th
2025: 1st (2x), 2nd, 3rd, 4th

Team 2
12 Team, Superflex, PPR
1QB, 2WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1 SF

QB: Jackson, Burrow, Jones, Huntley, Heinicke
RB: Stevenson, Montgomery, Pacheco, Mostert, Hunt, Charbonnet, Wilson, Ford, Mason
WR: Chase, Dionte, Addison, Lockett, Chark, Atwell, Marshall, Osborn
TE: Andrews, Hill, Kmet
Draft Picks:
2024: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Value of Lamar Jackson

Postby Blueboy » Wed May 16, 2018 9:57 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 7:32 am WOW. Freeman at 4?? I'd rank them Penny, Guice, Jackson, Chubb, Moore.
I'd rank them exactly like this.

12-team SF, PPR, TE premium, 0.25 PPCarry
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1SF 4Flex
QB: Mahomes, Fields, Love
RB: Bijan, ETN, Pollard, Achane, Herbert
WR: Kupp, Hill, Metcalf, Ridley, Jeudy, D.J. M, Burks, Hollywood, Wan'Dale
TE: Kyle Pitts, Goedert

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Re: Value of Lamar Jackson

Postby GOTGDynasty » Wed May 16, 2018 11:31 am

Yes, you need WRs but it's not clear Moore is going to immediately in his rookie year become fantasy-relevant. If Penny or Guice really do fall to 1.06 I'd grab one of them - as they'll be immediately fantasy relevant - and then shop them to an RB-needy team in exchange for an already fantasy-relevant WR and maybe plus something else. Or alternatively, shop the draft pick itself for a stud WR.
QBs: Patrick Mahomes, Trey Lance, Tua Tagovailoa
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Saquon Barkley, JK Dobbins, James Conner, Travis Etienne, Tony Pollard, Brian Robinson.
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, A.J. Brown, Deebo Samuel, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Godwin, JuJu Smith-Schuster, Chase Claypool, Chris Olave, Odell Beckham, Josh Palmer
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Taysom Hill, Trey McBride, Isaiah Likely
PK: Nick Folk
(IDPs, start two per week per position):
DL: Danielle Hunter, Myles Garrett, Alex Highsmith, Aidan Hutchinson, Chase Young,
LB: Roquan Smith, C.J. Mosley, Logan Wilson, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoa
DB: Derwin James, Jeremy Chinn, Xavier McKinney, Jalen Pitre

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Re: Value of Lamar Jackson

Postby Ravenous » Wed May 16, 2018 8:51 pm

GOTGDynasty wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 11:31 am Yes, you need WRs but it's not clear Moore is going to immediately in his rookie year become fantasy-relevant. If Penny or Guice really do fall to 1.06 I'd grab one of them - as they'll be immediately fantasy relevant - and then shop them to an RB-needy team in exchange for an already fantasy-relevant WR and maybe plus something else. Or alternatively, shop the draft pick itself for a stud WR.
Agree with the above post for the most part. i think bpa/value in a 2QB/SF league would say go QB and try to trade...but it may take a couple of years for that investment to mature.

if you don't go QB..value and immediate production is on the RB side instead of WR...and i don't think you could get a stud WR for 1.10...
Too many teams and lineup changes to keep track of them all.

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Re: Value of Lamar Jackson

Postby CheddarBayBiscuits » Thu May 17, 2018 6:10 am

Thanks everyone - I somehow landed Penny at 1.10.

My WRs are still a problem but I'm happy with how the rest of my roster is shaping out.

12 team IDP SFlex league

Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SUPERFLEX 2FLEX | 2DL 2LB 2DB 2IDPFLEX

PICKS:
- 2022 - 1.03, 1.11, 2.01, 2.03, 2.05, 2.06, 2.07, 2.12, 3.06, 3.08, 3.09
- 2023 - 5 1sts, 2nd, 3 3rds, 4th
- 2024 - 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 3rd, 4th

QB: Kyler Murray, Tyler Huntley, Kellen Mond
RB: Jeff Wilson, Chris Evans, Justin Jackson, Duke Johnson, Kylin Hill, JaMycal Hasty, Craig Reynolds, Ameer Abdullah, Derrick Gore, Devontae Booker
WR: AJ Brown, Rashod Bateman, Gabriel Davis, Anthony Schwartz, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Tyler Johnson, Quez Watkins, Lynn Bowden, Byron Pringle, Ashton Dulin, James Washington, Freddie Swain, Dez Fitzpatrick, James Proche
TE: Cole Kmet, Hayden Hurst, Dan Arnold, Josh Deguara

Taxi: Jordan Love (QB), Ihmir Smith-Marsette (WR), Hunter Long (TE), Brevin Jordan (TE)

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Re: Value of Lamar Jackson

Postby Blueboy » Thu May 17, 2018 12:08 pm

CheddarBayBiscuits wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 6:10 am Thanks everyone - I somehow landed Penny at 1.10.

My WRs are still a problem but I'm happy with how the rest of my roster is shaping out.
Penny at 1.10 is crazy.

12-team SF, PPR, TE premium, 0.25 PPCarry
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1SF 4Flex
QB: Mahomes, Fields, Love
RB: Bijan, ETN, Pollard, Achane, Herbert
WR: Kupp, Hill, Metcalf, Ridley, Jeudy, D.J. M, Burks, Hollywood, Wan'Dale
TE: Kyle Pitts, Goedert

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Re: Value of Lamar Jackson

Postby Servo » Thu May 17, 2018 1:11 pm

I'm contemplating Penny at 1.03, yeah, 1.10 that's dumb lol.


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