Carr or Winston?

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Which qb in superflex

Jamis Winston
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52%
Derek Carr
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48%
 
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Carr or Winston?

Postby playa_hata » Wed May 09, 2018 2:39 am

Just wondering who has more value to the dynasty community its a 5pt td -2Int league 12 teams ppr scoring.
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)

TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells

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QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby gunzwil guinea pigs » Wed May 09, 2018 6:28 am

I think its close, same tier for me, but I like Carr and his supporting cast a bit more
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RB: Breece Hall, Tony Pollard, Najee Harris, Joe Mixon, Rashaad Penny, Damien Harris
WR: CeDee Lamb, Garrett Wilson, Stefon Diggs, Devonta Smith, Terry McLaurin, George Pickens, Calvin Ridley, Zay Flowers, Robert Woods, John Metchie, Marvin Mims
TE: Kyle Pitts, Irv Smith, Trey McBride
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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby playa_hata » Wed May 09, 2018 7:13 am

gunzwil guinea pigs wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 6:28 am I think its close, same tier for me, but I like Carr and his supporting cast a bit more
Really? I think Evans,Godwin, Brate, Howard, RoJo is far superior to Carrs supporting cast Carr has no rb help and Amari cooper i think jordy and martavis are nothing special. but i do think carr is the better player.
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)

TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells

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QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton

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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby gunzwil guinea pigs » Wed May 09, 2018 8:03 am

playa_hata wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 7:13 am
gunzwil guinea pigs wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 6:28 am I think its close, same tier for me, but I like Carr and his supporting cast a bit more
Really? I think Evans,Godwin, Brate, Howard, RoJo is far superior to Carrs supporting cast Carr has no rb help and Amari cooper i think jordy and martavis are nothing special. but i do think carr is the better player.
I disagree, O-Line in okland is at least 2 tiers above the one in tampa. Evans is the best skill player I agrre, but Cooper is fine, marty a field strechter like godwin but much more athletic, brate is JAG, Jordy is old but a nice red zone target. The RB comittee in Okland is such as good as RoJo and Barber.
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RB: Breece Hall, Tony Pollard, Najee Harris, Joe Mixon, Rashaad Penny, Damien Harris
WR: CeDee Lamb, Garrett Wilson, Stefon Diggs, Devonta Smith, Terry McLaurin, George Pickens, Calvin Ridley, Zay Flowers, Robert Woods, John Metchie, Marvin Mims
TE: Kyle Pitts, Irv Smith, Trey McBride
K: Tyler Bass
D/ST: Browns, Washington, Packers

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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby Smoking Guns » Wed May 09, 2018 9:16 am

I think Carr is better QB - Winston has better support . Good thing is they are both likely to be playing from behind a lot , especially Winston with the division they are in.

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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby moishetreats » Wed May 09, 2018 9:48 am

Right now, I think that Carr is the better QB.

I think that Winston has the higher ceiling, though -- and by a lot. In addition, I don't think that Winston's floor is that much lower than Carr's. So, I'd take Winston -- pretty easily.
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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed May 09, 2018 11:28 am

I'd say it's close. Winston = Carr + 2nd
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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby Phaded » Wed May 09, 2018 4:34 pm

I would rather have Winston pretty easily, I think he has top 5 potential.

Derek Carr is a higher paid Andy Dalton.
(I like Dalton and think both are fine QBs but lack a high ceiling)

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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby blacklab1010 » Thu May 10, 2018 4:27 am

This is interesting because i have both of these qbs. I would just like to add that in our 4pt pass league winston missed essentially 4 games and still sxored almost exact same pts as carr!
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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby joeya2001 » Fri May 11, 2018 7:11 am

I like Winstons Cast better
I like Carr as a QB better
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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby Servo » Fri May 11, 2018 1:49 pm

Wonder if Jameis falls on the hot seat this year if he throws up another disappointing season? :think:

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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby Phaded » Fri May 11, 2018 2:10 pm

...how has Winston been disappointing?
Just curious to the logic.

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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby ImaRounder » Sun May 13, 2018 7:20 pm

I took them at 3.12 and 4.01 startup last week. So i think theyre equal.

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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun May 13, 2018 7:28 pm

Phaded wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 4:34 pm I would rather have Winston pretty easily, I think he has top 5 potential.

Derek Carr is a higher paid Andy Dalton.
(I like Dalton and think both are fine QBs but lack a high ceiling)
Carr had an MVP caliber season 2 years ago before getting hurt, so I think Andy Dalton is a pretty poor comparison.
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Re: Carr or Winston?

Postby Blueboy » Sun May 13, 2018 10:31 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun May 13, 2018 7:28 pm
Phaded wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 4:34 pm I would rather have Winston pretty easily, I think he has top 5 potential.

Derek Carr is a higher paid Andy Dalton.
(I like Dalton and think both are fine QBs but lack a high ceiling)
Carr had an MVP caliber season 2 years ago before getting hurt, so I think Andy Dalton is a pretty poor comparison.
Dalton has had an MVP caliber season

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