Rankings w/ Rooks

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Rankings w/ Rooks

Postby ImaRounder » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:55 am

Gentlemen, here are my rankings for QBs

Rodgers
Wilson
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Wentz
Luck
Winston
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Cousins
Garoppolo
Josh Allen
Goff
Carr
Mahomes
Josh Rosen
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Stafford
Brady
Brees
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Watson
Sam Darnold
Newton
Mariota
Baker Mayfield
Ryan
Dak
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Rivers
Big Ben
Trubisky
Lamar Jackson
Smith

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Re: Rankings w/ Rooks

Postby gunzwil guinea pigs » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:05 am

I agree with the top 4 guys on your board but then it ends abrupt :wink:

for example:
winston far too high for me
mariota far too low
stafford too low
watson too low
rookies too high (but I'm actually fine with that)
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Re: Rankings w/ Rooks

Postby Blueboy » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:35 am

Nice to see how different folk's evaluations can be. I'd have QBs ranked something like:

Rodgers
Wilson
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Wentz
Luck
Watson
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Cousins
Winston
Garoppolo
Mariota
Goff
Carr
Stafford
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Brady
Mahomes
Josh Rosen
Josh Allen
Darnold
Ryan
Trubisky
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Sam Darnold
Newton
Baker Mayfield
Dak
Brees
Lamar Jackson
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Rivers
Big Ben
Smith

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Re: Rankings w/ Rooks

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:36 pm

Just curious why everyone has cam ranked so low? Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of his, but he was a top 5 QB last year and that is two top 5 seasons in the past 3, no way he should be ranked in the 20s, period.
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06

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Re: Rankings w/ Rooks

Postby FiremanEd » Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:37 am

pokerplayer1000 wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:36 pm Just curious why everyone has cam ranked so low? Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of his, but he was a top 5 QB last year and that is two top 5 seasons in the past 3, no way he should be ranked in the 20s, period.
It’s possible people are valuing based on future outlook, not past production, as only one of those things matters from here on out. I don’t disagree that past is a great indicator of future, but Newton’s style and skill set do leave him vulnerable to sharper declines. Are the ranking correct? Who knows. However one shouldn’t use absolutes to reference future performance, and one certainly shouldn’t tell people they are wrong without putting their own out there for challenge. Everyone has different rankings, that’s what makes it fun.

Thanks for the lists fellas. Interesting ranks and tiers. Will look to do the same soon.

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Re: Rankings w/ Rooks

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:51 pm

FiremanEd wrote: Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:37 am
pokerplayer1000 wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:36 pm Just curious why everyone has cam ranked so low? Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of his, but he was a top 5 QB last year and that is two top 5 seasons in the past 3, no way he should be ranked in the 20s, period.
It’s possible people are valuing based on future outlook, not past production, as only one of those things matters from here on out. I don’t disagree that past is a great indicator of future, but Newton’s style and skill set do leave him vulnerable to sharper declines. Are the ranking correct? Who knows. However one shouldn’t use absolutes to reference future performance, and one certainly shouldn’t tell people they are wrong without putting their own out there for challenge. Everyone has different rankings, that’s what makes it fun.

Thanks for the lists fellas. Interesting ranks and tiers. Will look to do the same soon.
I hear ya, and I can understand why people would rank cam much lower, and I also understand that people just love the potential upside of what could be, thus we rank rookies high or even guys who have had one good year, ala Wentz very high. We look at his age, and think he could be dominate for the next 15 years and don't want to miss out on that.
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06

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Re: Rankings w/ Rooks

Postby ArrylT » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:34 am

Thanks for sharing! I personally prefer tiered rankings like that than numbered rankings. :)
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Re: Rankings w/ Rooks

Postby The Red Rooster » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:39 am

I would be more than happy to have Ben and Rivers as my two QBs in a 1 QB league. I get that they are older and nearing the end, but in a 1 QB you league, you would be fine with them if you could get them for as cheap as they seem to be valued on this thread. Both finished in the top 10 for QBs last year also (in most fantasy scoring formats at least).

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Re: Rankings w/ Rooks

Postby ArrylT » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:50 am

The Red Rooster wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:39 am I would be more than happy to have Ben and Rivers as my two QBs in a 1 QB league. I get that they are older and nearing the end, but in a 1 QB you league, you would be fine with them if you could get them for as cheap as they seem to be valued on this thread. Both finished in the top 10 for QBs last year also (in most fantasy scoring formats at least).
This is a thread ranking QBs in a SF/2 QB format though.
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Re: Rankings w/ Rooks

Postby The Red Rooster » Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:11 am

ArrylT wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:50 am
The Red Rooster wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:39 am I would be more than happy to have Ben and Rivers as my two QBs in a 1 QB league. I get that they are older and nearing the end, but in a 1 QB you league, you would be fine with them if you could get them for as cheap as they seem to be valued on this thread. Both finished in the top 10 for QBs last year also (in most fantasy scoring formats at least).
This is a thread ranking QBs in a SF/2 QB format though.
Well son of a... :doh: ...thats what I get for just clicking on posts under the new posts topic and not reading where they are placed. Disregard my mistake. I guess you would still be pretty set with Rivers and Ben anyways, but, certainly harder to replace from year to year.

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Re: Rankings w/ Rooks

Postby Servo » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:56 am

Yes, Rivers is 36 years old and you don't know when he'll hang it up but he's been a QB1 for 5 years now and possibly more (not that I paid attention back then).

Having him ranked nearly dead last doesn't seem right to me.

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Re: Rankings w/ Rooks

Postby Ruggenater » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:17 pm

Servo wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:56 am Yes, Rivers is 36 years old and you don't know when he'll hang it up but he's been a QB1 for 5 years now and possibly more (not that I paid attention back then).

Having him ranked nearly dead last doesn't seem right to me.
Nearly dead last of the ones actually ranked there. Note that a bunch of the "meh" guys aren't even listed and would then end up in a lower tier: Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco, Tyrod Taylor, Sam Bradford, Blake Bortles, Case Keenum, etc.
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