QB Value 14-Team Sflex
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QB Value 14-Team Sflex
Just curious if you would give a bump in value to QBs in a 14 team SFlex?
How early would you take a QB? top pick? top 5, end of 1st?
I personally think it would be a big advantage to having 3 starting QBs in a 14 teamer. Thoughts?
How early would you take a QB? top pick? top 5, end of 1st?
I personally think it would be a big advantage to having 3 starting QBs in a 14 teamer. Thoughts?
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06
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Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
1) yespokerplayer1000 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:09 am Just curious if you would give a bump in value to QBs in a 14 team SFlex?
How early would you take a QB? top pick? top 5, end of 1st?
I personally think it would be a big advantage to having 3 starting QBs in a 14 teamer. Thoughts?
2) start-up or rookie: both-> no yes yes
3) of course
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Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
I agree with everything except the "no". In a start-up, the first few picks and most of the first two rounds should be QBs. In a rookie draft, in general, taking a QB 1st (and 2nd) would not be crazy. This year alone might be an exception.millworkguy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:32 am1) yespokerplayer1000 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:09 am Just curious if you would give a bump in value to QBs in a 14 team SFlex?
How early would you take a QB? top pick? top 5, end of 1st?
I personally think it would be a big advantage to having 3 starting QBs in a 14 teamer. Thoughts?
2) start-up or rookie: both-> no yes yes
3) of course
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
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Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
It just seems to me that despite what most people say on this forum about when to take them, when involved in those leagues people cant help themselves but to go after the shiny RB or WR.
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06
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Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
I would still take Gurley Zeke Nuk and OBJ over any QB for sure. Bell and a few others are 50/50. But heres why, look at any ADP and youll see that if you pick top 4 are your next two picks in the 2nd 3rd there is very good Qbs left and the drop to them from who you would've taken isn't as far as it is for WR or RB. Also Wrs and RBs win you championships. While QB offer solid dependable points each week they aernt the guys blowing up to win games its usually QBs.pokerplayer1000 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:20 pm It just seems to me that despite what most people say on this forum about when to take them, when involved in those leagues people cant help themselves but to go after the shiny RB or WR.
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Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
IMO, both of these are entirely the wrong approach.pierson242 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:18 amI would still take Gurley Zeke Nuk and OBJ over any QB for sure. Bell and a few others are 50/50. But heres why, look at any ADP and youll see that if you pick top 4 are your next two picks in the 2nd 3rd there is very good Qbs left and the drop to them from who you would've taken isn't as far as it is for WR or RB. Also Wrs and RBs win you championships. While QB offer solid dependable points each week they aernt the guys blowing up to win games its usually QBs.pokerplayer1000 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:20 pm It just seems to me that despite what most people say on this forum about when to take them, when involved in those leagues people cant help themselves but to go after the shiny RB or WR.
Look, elite QBs will dominate, and elite RBs will dominate. Here's the rub: if you need to replace or the other in-season, it is FAR easier to find serviceable numbers out of lesser or even waiver-wire RBs than QBs. And it's not close.
In addition, the list of start-able RBs is faaaaaar longer than the list of start-able QBs.
Starting line-up scarcity, depth scarcity, cost to acquire a replacement in-season (and this doesn't even mention length of career!!!) -- these all favor the QBs massively. And scoring value is a wash. Finally, finding RBs in rookie drafts is far more reliable than finding QBs in rookie drafts.
Put it all together, and I can't see how drafting RBs ahead of the elite QBs makes any sense at all.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
Let the other owners go after the RB or WR in a startup and laugh at them when they have one startable QB on their roster and you have 2-3 good ones.
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Or 4-5 good ones! They'll have to come paying then.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
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Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
I agree 100%. Primarily many of the leagues I play in are 10 man 2 QB leagues, and in those leagues EVERY SINGLE year due to injuries/players losing jobs/bye weeks, teams struggle to field 2 QBs every week. In some cases teams will chalk up a lose or two, but often you can find trades, etc so I assume this would be more the case in a 14 team, sflex
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06
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Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
horrible strategy that always backfires. the whole league sees you are hoarding to try to gouge an onwer in a trade and nobody will approach you trying to give what you are hoping to get
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
get 2 you feel good about and a 3rd with upside or at least a job lol. like bradford teddy mccarron someone like that later on is a good idea
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
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Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
Who won you a ship this year? Gurley or Rodgers. I never said ignore QBs i like to tak the Goffs, Daks, and in a recent draft Luck in the 2/3 turn while also have taken Gurley or Zeke round 1.moishetreats wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:17 amIMO, both of these are entirely the wrong approach.pierson242 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:18 amI would still take Gurley Zeke Nuk and OBJ over any QB for sure. Bell and a few others are 50/50. But heres why, look at any ADP and youll see that if you pick top 4 are your next two picks in the 2nd 3rd there is very good Qbs left and the drop to them from who you would've taken isn't as far as it is for WR or RB. Also Wrs and RBs win you championships. While QB offer solid dependable points each week they aernt the guys blowing up to win games its usually QBs.pokerplayer1000 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:20 pm It just seems to me that despite what most people say on this forum about when to take them, when involved in those leagues people cant help themselves but to go after the shiny RB or WR.
Look, elite QBs will dominate, and elite RBs will dominate. Here's the rub: if you need to replace or the other in-season, it is FAR easier to find serviceable numbers out of lesser or even waiver-wire RBs than QBs. And it's not close.
In addition, the list of start-able RBs is faaaaaar longer than the list of start-able QBs.
Starting line-up scarcity, depth scarcity, cost to acquire a replacement in-season (and this doesn't even mention length of career!!!) -- these all favor the QBs massively. And scoring value is a wash. Finally, finding RBs in rookie drafts is far more reliable than finding QBs in rookie drafts.
Put it all together, and I can't see how drafting RBs ahead of the elite QBs makes any sense at all.
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Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:18 amhorrible strategy that always backfires. the whole league sees you are hoarding to try to gouge an onwer in a trade and nobody will approach you trying to give what you are hoping to get
Always is a big word. Had you written "It's a high-risk strategy that has a real chance of backfiring and leaving you without a complete team or having to undersell your QBs," then I would have agreed with your suggestion and modified my comment -- because that would be correct. "Always", though? I have myriad examples of cases where this strategy has proven to be nothing short of gold.
Um, wow. Picking one RB and one QB from 2017 isn't enough to prove a point. Let me ask you this: who do think is more likely to have elite production over the next 5 years -- Rodgers or DJ? Who do you think is more likely to have elite production over the next 8-10 years -- Wilson (based on how most see Wilson; obviously, people differ) or Gurley? Who do you think is more likely to have top-level production over the next 15 years -- Wentz or Zeke?pierson242 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:10 amWho won you a ship this year? Gurley or Rodgers. I never said ignore QBs i like to tak the Goffs, Daks, and in a recent draft Luck in the 2/3 turn while also have taken Gurley or Zeke round 1.
Difference-making QBs can win you a league -- especially in SF/2QB formats -- as much as difference-making RBs. And the former tend to be more reliable for predictable production and have many more years ahead of them.
Put it this way: in my Dynasty league in sig (Team 1), I essentially traded D. Freeman for 1.02. Forget whether or not you like that deal; it's about fair value (there were other parts to the trade, too, but that's the centerpiece). There would be almost no good QBs that I could get for 1.02. You couldn't get Rodgers, Wilson, Wentz, Goff, Prescott, Luck -- none of them. Obviously, you can't get Zeke or Gurley or DJ, either. But, I would happily go to war with Rodgers and Freeman against your top-3 RB and whatever QB is left on the turn -- not just this year, but for the next handful.
All this being said, it is exactly this kind of thread that makes me LOVE 2QB and SF leagues -- thank y'all for the different insights and approaches. It really is amazing how many more ways there are to construct a team and win (or lose!!!) in these leagues over 1QB leagues!!
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
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Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
Just because you don't agree doesn't make it wrong, ive won many championships this way. Theres more than one way to skin a catmoishetreats wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:58 pmBigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:18 amhorrible strategy that always backfires. the whole league sees you are hoarding to try to gouge an onwer in a trade and nobody will approach you trying to give what you are hoping to get
Always is a big word. Had you written "It's a high-risk strategy that has a real chance of backfiring and leaving you without a complete team or having to undersell your QBs," then I would have agreed with your suggestion and modified my comment -- because that would be correct. "Always", though? I have myriad examples of cases where this strategy has proven to be nothing short of gold.
Um, wow. Picking one RB and one QB from 2017 isn't enough to prove a point. Let me ask you this: who do think is more likely to have elite production over the next 5 years -- Rodgers or DJ? Who do you think is more likely to have elite production over the next 8-10 years -- Wilson (based on how most see Wilson; obviously, people differ) or Gurley? Who do you think is more likely to have top-level production over the next 15 years -- Wentz or Zeke?pierson242 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:10 amWho won you a ship this year? Gurley or Rodgers. I never said ignore QBs i like to tak the Goffs, Daks, and in a recent draft Luck in the 2/3 turn while also have taken Gurley or Zeke round 1.
Difference-making QBs can win you a league -- especially in SF/2QB formats -- as much as difference-making RBs. And the former tend to be more reliable for predictable production and have many more years ahead of them.
Put it this way: in my Dynasty league in sig (Team 1), I essentially traded D. Freeman for 1.02. Forget whether or not you like that deal; it's about fair value (there were other parts to the trade, too, but that's the centerpiece). There would be almost no good QBs that I could get for 1.02. You couldn't get Rodgers, Wilson, Wentz, Goff, Prescott, Luck -- none of them. Obviously, you can't get Zeke or Gurley or DJ, either. But, I would happily go to war with Rodgers and Freeman against your top-3 RB and whatever QB is left on the turn -- not just this year, but for the next handful.
All this being said, it is exactly this kind of thread that makes me LOVE 2QB and SF leagues -- thank y'all for the different insights and approaches. It really is amazing how many more ways there are to construct a team and win (or lose!!!) in these leagues over 1QB leagues!!
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Re: QB Value 14-Team Sflex
pierson242 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:46 amJust because you don't agree doesn't make it wrong, ive won many championships this way. Thats whats fun if we all built the same way it would be boring. Always remembe, theres more than one way to skin a catmoishetreats wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:58 pmBigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:18 am
horrible strategy that always backfires. the whole league sees you are hoarding to try to gouge an onwer in a trade and nobody will approach you trying to give what you are hoping to get
Always is a big word. Had you written "It's a high-risk strategy that has a real chance of backfiring and leaving you without a complete team or having to undersell your QBs," then I would have agreed with your suggestion and modified my comment -- because that would be correct. "Always", though? I have myriad examples of cases where this strategy has proven to be nothing short of gold.
Um, wow. Picking one RB and one QB from 2017 isn't enough to prove a point. Let me ask you this: who do think is more likely to have elite production over the next 5 years -- Rodgers or DJ? Who do you think is more likely to have elite production over the next 8-10 years -- Wilson (based on how most see Wilson; obviously, people differ) or Gurley? Who do you think is more likely to have top-level production over the next 15 years -- Wentz or Zeke?pierson242 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:10 amWho won you a ship this year? Gurley or Rodgers. I never said ignore QBs i like to tak the Goffs, Daks, and in a recent draft Luck in the 2/3 turn while also have taken Gurley or Zeke round 1.
Difference-making QBs can win you a league -- especially in SF/2QB formats -- as much as difference-making RBs. And the former tend to be more reliable for predictable production and have many more years ahead of them.
Put it this way: in my Dynasty league in sig (Team 1), I essentially traded D. Freeman for 1.02. Forget whether or not you like that deal; it's about fair value (there were other parts to the trade, too, but that's the centerpiece). There would be almost no good QBs that I could get for 1.02. You couldn't get Rodgers, Wilson, Wentz, Goff, Prescott, Luck -- none of them. Obviously, you can't get Zeke or Gurley or DJ, either. But, I would happily go to war with Rodgers and Freeman against your top-3 RB and whatever QB is left on the turn -- not just this year, but for the next handful.
All this being said, it is exactly this kind of thread that makes me LOVE 2QB and SF leagues -- thank y'all for the different insights and approaches. It really is amazing how many more ways there are to construct a team and win (or lose!!!) in these leagues over 1QB leagues!!
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