Marqise Lee

Interested in discussing college prospects? Or even High School Prospects? This is the forum.
cusefan115
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 202
Joined: Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:31 am

Marqise Lee

Postby cusefan115 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:08 pm

Where does he fit among your wr dynasty rankings?

User avatar
Butt Liqueur
Pro Bowler
Pro Bowler
Posts: 1082
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:15 am

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby Butt Liqueur » Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:54 pm

cusefan115 wrote:Where does he fit among your wr dynasty rankings?
As far as rookies go, he's probably the #5 WR in this class for me behind Watkins, Robinson, Evans and Matthews

16 Team, PPR
(1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX)
QB: J. Cutler, M. Mariota, M. Cassel, C. Henne, A. McCarron, D. Fales
RB: J. Bell, F. Gore, R. Bush, D. Williams, R. Helu, L. Dunbar, J. Allen, K. Williams, C. Artis-Payne
WR: J. Jones (ATL), J. Nelson, A. Hawkins, C. Johnson (MIN), A. Robinson, R. Randle, K. Thompkins, B. Ellington, H. Douglas, D. Harris, M. Campanaro, J. Hardy, J. Saunders, D. Moore, I. Blakeney, T. Lippett
TE: C. Clay, A. Quarless, A. Sefarian-Jenkins, J. Cumberland, W. Saxton

Draft Picks: 2016 2 3rds, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th

cusefan115
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 202
Joined: Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:31 am

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby cusefan115 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:59 pm

Butt Liqueur wrote:
cusefan115 wrote:Where does he fit among your wr dynasty rankings?
As far as rookies go, he's probably the #5 WR in this class for me behind Watkins, Robinson, Evans and Matthews
Cool. How about overall? Top 15? Top 30? Just curious. Thanks.

User avatar
Butt Liqueur
Pro Bowler
Pro Bowler
Posts: 1082
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:15 am

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby Butt Liqueur » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:03 pm

cusefan115 wrote:
Butt Liqueur wrote:
cusefan115 wrote:Where does he fit among your wr dynasty rankings?
As far as rookies go, he's probably the #5 WR in this class for me behind Watkins, Robinson, Evans and Matthews
Cool. How about overall? Top 15? Top 30? Just curious. Thanks.
In the tiered rankings post, I had him around #10-12 overall. But that's just one man's opinion

16 Team, PPR
(1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX)
QB: J. Cutler, M. Mariota, M. Cassel, C. Henne, A. McCarron, D. Fales
RB: J. Bell, F. Gore, R. Bush, D. Williams, R. Helu, L. Dunbar, J. Allen, K. Williams, C. Artis-Payne
WR: J. Jones (ATL), J. Nelson, A. Hawkins, C. Johnson (MIN), A. Robinson, R. Randle, K. Thompkins, B. Ellington, H. Douglas, D. Harris, M. Campanaro, J. Hardy, J. Saunders, D. Moore, I. Blakeney, T. Lippett
TE: C. Clay, A. Quarless, A. Sefarian-Jenkins, J. Cumberland, W. Saxton

Draft Picks: 2016 2 3rds, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th

aaroneous
Captain
Captain
Posts: 860
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:48 pm

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby aaroneous » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:06 pm

cusefan115 wrote:
Butt Liqueur wrote:
cusefan115 wrote:Where does he fit among your wr dynasty rankings?
As far as rookies go, he's probably the #5 WR in this class for me behind Watkins, Robinson, Evans and Matthews
Cool. How about overall? Top 15? Top 30? Just curious. Thanks.
I think in terms of the general opinion its top 5 and top 10 overall
Team 1 -12 team ppr league - 23 man roster/4 man TS - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 TE

QB Rivers, Kaepernick
RB Foster, Peterson, Spiller, Khiry Robinson, Riddick,
WR Demayrius, James Jones, Crabtree, Dobson, Boyce, Holmes, Malcolm Floyd, Goodwin
TE Cameron, Pitta, Bostick, Kelce, Griffin

2014: 2.01, 2.03, 2.04, 2.09, 2.10; 3.01, 3.02, 3.04, 3.05, 3.09

Team 2 - 12 team ppr - 21 man roster/4 man TS - 1QB 2-4RB 2-4WR 1-3TE 1 DST 1 K
QB - Romo, Vick
RB - Lamar, Greene, Woodhead, Pierre Thomas, Daniel Thomas, Helu
WR - Gordon, Jeffery, Floyd, Cruz, Bailey, Blackmon, Britt, Holmes, Patton, Steve Smith
TE - Green, Witten, Robinson
2014: 1.08, 2.05, 3.08, 4.05

Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/a_swinderman

cusefan115
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 202
Joined: Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:31 am

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby cusefan115 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:21 pm

Sorry, I wasn't being very clear. I meant where he would fit among all nfl wr. Would it be right after calvin, dez, Julio, ajg, dt, Gordon, alshon?

Thanks again.

User avatar
Butt Liqueur
Pro Bowler
Pro Bowler
Posts: 1082
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:15 am

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby Butt Liqueur » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:38 pm

cusefan115 wrote:Sorry, I wasn't being very clear. I meant where he would fit among all nfl wr. Would it be right after calvin, dez, Julio, ajg, dt, Gordon, alshon?

Thanks again.
Probably in the 30s overall

16 Team, PPR
(1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX)
QB: J. Cutler, M. Mariota, M. Cassel, C. Henne, A. McCarron, D. Fales
RB: J. Bell, F. Gore, R. Bush, D. Williams, R. Helu, L. Dunbar, J. Allen, K. Williams, C. Artis-Payne
WR: J. Jones (ATL), J. Nelson, A. Hawkins, C. Johnson (MIN), A. Robinson, R. Randle, K. Thompkins, B. Ellington, H. Douglas, D. Harris, M. Campanaro, J. Hardy, J. Saunders, D. Moore, I. Blakeney, T. Lippett
TE: C. Clay, A. Quarless, A. Sefarian-Jenkins, J. Cumberland, W. Saxton

Draft Picks: 2016 2 3rds, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th

aaroneous
Captain
Captain
Posts: 860
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:48 pm

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby aaroneous » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:57 pm

cusefan115 wrote:Sorry, I wasn't being very clear. I meant where he would fit among all nfl wr. Would it be right after calvin, dez, Julio, ajg, dt, Gordon, alshon?

Thanks again.
I'd put him as a WR4-5 right now probably, if that. I'm personally not high on him at all though
Team 1 -12 team ppr league - 23 man roster/4 man TS - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 TE

QB Rivers, Kaepernick
RB Foster, Peterson, Spiller, Khiry Robinson, Riddick,
WR Demayrius, James Jones, Crabtree, Dobson, Boyce, Holmes, Malcolm Floyd, Goodwin
TE Cameron, Pitta, Bostick, Kelce, Griffin

2014: 2.01, 2.03, 2.04, 2.09, 2.10; 3.01, 3.02, 3.04, 3.05, 3.09

Team 2 - 12 team ppr - 21 man roster/4 man TS - 1QB 2-4RB 2-4WR 1-3TE 1 DST 1 K
QB - Romo, Vick
RB - Lamar, Greene, Woodhead, Pierre Thomas, Daniel Thomas, Helu
WR - Gordon, Jeffery, Floyd, Cruz, Bailey, Blackmon, Britt, Holmes, Patton, Steve Smith
TE - Green, Witten, Robinson
2014: 1.08, 2.05, 3.08, 4.05

Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/a_swinderman

kmbryant09
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3876
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:26 am

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby kmbryant09 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:05 pm

Butt Liqueur is much lower on Lee than the general consensus.

Lee is, on average, the #2 WR in this year's draft class behind Watkins. I'm guessing this time of year people get bored with the standard rankings and look for any excuse to shake things up - which is why some people want to put guys like Robinson, Evans, and Benjamin ahead of Lee and in some cases Watkins.

As for overall WR's - I'd put him in the low 20's. Remember, a year ago Lee was the #1 overall prospect in this year's draft class, and was talked up as a borderline top10 overall dynasty WR. One injury-riddled season with no QB shouldn't drop him 20 spots.

I think we can all agree (for the most part), that Lee is in the 1.2 - 1.5 range in this year's draft class. To me, that puts him ahead of some borderline WR 2's like T. Smith, T.Y. Hilton, K. Wright, R. Randle, E. Decker, etc.
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich

User avatar
KMA
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3548
Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:36 pm

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby KMA » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:18 pm

kmbryant09 wrote:Butt Liqueur is much lower on Lee than the general consensus.

Lee is, on average, the #2 WR in this year's draft class behind Watkins. I'm guessing this time of year people get bored with the standard rankings and look for any excuse to shake things up - which is why some people want to put guys like Robinson, Evans, and Benjamin ahead of Lee and in some cases Watkins.

As for overall WR's - I'd put him in the low 20's. Remember, a year ago Lee was the #1 overall prospect in this year's draft class, and was talked up as a borderline top10 overall dynasty WR. One injury-riddled season with no QB shouldn't drop him 20 spots.

I think we can all agree (for the most part), that Lee is in the 1.2 - 1.5 range in this year's draft class. To me, that puts him ahead of some borderline WR 2's like T. Smith, T.Y. Hilton, K. Wright, R. Randle, E. Decker, etc.
This. I am borderline shocked by how quickly people have fallen out of love with this kid. He was THE college receiver to pursue in 2012. Research the scouting reports on this kid circa 2012. They paint a different picture. You typically see analysts (today) still giving him love. I hope my leaguemates are as low on him as some seem to be in here! Seems like the owners who know what this kid offers are remaining tight lipped. Interesting.
Sentenced to Redraft Duty

Wentz / Goff
Jacobs / Mack / Coleman / Mixon
OBJ / Adams / Thielen / Sutton / Gallup / Davis
Ertz / Henry

User avatar
Butt Liqueur
Pro Bowler
Pro Bowler
Posts: 1082
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:15 am

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby Butt Liqueur » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:48 pm

kmbryant09 wrote:Butt Liqueur is much lower on Lee than the general consensus.

Lee is, on average, the #2 WR in this year's draft class behind Watkins. I'm guessing this time of year people get bored with the standard rankings and look for any excuse to shake things up - which is why some people want to put guys like Robinson, Evans, and Benjamin ahead of Lee and in some cases Watkins.

As for overall WR's - I'd put him in the low 20's. Remember, a year ago Lee was the #1 overall prospect in this year's draft class, and was talked up as a borderline top10 overall dynasty WR. One injury-riddled season with no QB shouldn't drop him 20 spots.

I think we can all agree (for the most part), that Lee is in the 1.2 - 1.5 range in this year's draft class. To me, that puts him ahead of some borderline WR 2's like T. Smith, T.Y. Hilton, K. Wright, R. Randle, E. Decker, etc.
I'm admittedly lower on Lee than most, but not just because I'm bored with the rankings. I was laregly uninspired by his performance this year. He showed problems catching the ball, looked unpolished in multiple aspects of the game and struggled without a dominant #1 receiver across from him. He's still explosive, but I actually see him as more of a Tavon role player than a true WR1. The other 4 I have above him I see as capable of becoming WR1 on their respective teams. I'm all for input on my opinions, but to suggest it has anything to do with boredom and not my own personal research seems a bit extreme...

Of the WRs you listed, I would probably only take Lee ahead of Randle

16 Team, PPR
(1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX)
QB: J. Cutler, M. Mariota, M. Cassel, C. Henne, A. McCarron, D. Fales
RB: J. Bell, F. Gore, R. Bush, D. Williams, R. Helu, L. Dunbar, J. Allen, K. Williams, C. Artis-Payne
WR: J. Jones (ATL), J. Nelson, A. Hawkins, C. Johnson (MIN), A. Robinson, R. Randle, K. Thompkins, B. Ellington, H. Douglas, D. Harris, M. Campanaro, J. Hardy, J. Saunders, D. Moore, I. Blakeney, T. Lippett
TE: C. Clay, A. Quarless, A. Sefarian-Jenkins, J. Cumberland, W. Saxton

Draft Picks: 2016 2 3rds, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th

aaroneous
Captain
Captain
Posts: 860
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:48 pm

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby aaroneous » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:57 pm

Butt Liqueur wrote: I'm admittedly lower on Lee than most, but not just because I'm bored with the rankings. I was laregly uninspired by his performance this year. He showed problems catching the ball, looked unpolished in multiple aspects of the game and struggled without a dominant #1 receiver across from him. He's still explosive, but I actually see him as more of a Tavon role player than a true WR1. The other 4 I have above him I see as capable of becoming WR1 on their respective teams. I'm all for input on my opinions, but to suggest it has anything to do with boredom and not my own personal research seems a bit extreme...

Of the WRs you listed, I would probably only take Lee ahead of Randle
Completely agree with Butt Liquer regarding reasons to not be really high on Lee. Its kind of disrespectful to say it is merely out of boredom. It also seems to be very farm from the consensus you make it to be that Lee is a guy that goes as early as you depict. I've seen multiple mock drafts where he goes in the 2nd round.
Team 1 -12 team ppr league - 23 man roster/4 man TS - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 TE

QB Rivers, Kaepernick
RB Foster, Peterson, Spiller, Khiry Robinson, Riddick,
WR Demayrius, James Jones, Crabtree, Dobson, Boyce, Holmes, Malcolm Floyd, Goodwin
TE Cameron, Pitta, Bostick, Kelce, Griffin

2014: 2.01, 2.03, 2.04, 2.09, 2.10; 3.01, 3.02, 3.04, 3.05, 3.09

Team 2 - 12 team ppr - 21 man roster/4 man TS - 1QB 2-4RB 2-4WR 1-3TE 1 DST 1 K
QB - Romo, Vick
RB - Lamar, Greene, Woodhead, Pierre Thomas, Daniel Thomas, Helu
WR - Gordon, Jeffery, Floyd, Cruz, Bailey, Blackmon, Britt, Holmes, Patton, Steve Smith
TE - Green, Witten, Robinson
2014: 1.08, 2.05, 3.08, 4.05

Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/a_swinderman

User avatar
guyatwork37
Pro Bowler
Pro Bowler
Posts: 1447
Joined: Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:31 pm

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby guyatwork37 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:04 pm

#2 receiver in this draft. People saying he is 5 to 10 WR in this class are high on goof balls. Oh no he had a crap qb and got hurt a little this season. SUCKS. INJURY PRONE. Please...

aaroneous
Captain
Captain
Posts: 860
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:48 pm

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby aaroneous » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:15 pm

guyatwork37 wrote:#2 receiver in this draft. People saying he is 5 to 10 WR in this class are high on goof balls. Oh no he had a crap qb and got hurt a little this season. SUCKS. INJURY PRONE. Please...
He also dropped more deep passes than he caught. I'm not a fan of players that can't catch. Drops aren't on the "crap QB". I also have a constant hesitation to draft players that are seeming to always be nicked up in college. How are they going to be effective running routes across the middle against NFL players?
Team 1 -12 team ppr league - 23 man roster/4 man TS - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 TE

QB Rivers, Kaepernick
RB Foster, Peterson, Spiller, Khiry Robinson, Riddick,
WR Demayrius, James Jones, Crabtree, Dobson, Boyce, Holmes, Malcolm Floyd, Goodwin
TE Cameron, Pitta, Bostick, Kelce, Griffin

2014: 2.01, 2.03, 2.04, 2.09, 2.10; 3.01, 3.02, 3.04, 3.05, 3.09

Team 2 - 12 team ppr - 21 man roster/4 man TS - 1QB 2-4RB 2-4WR 1-3TE 1 DST 1 K
QB - Romo, Vick
RB - Lamar, Greene, Woodhead, Pierre Thomas, Daniel Thomas, Helu
WR - Gordon, Jeffery, Floyd, Cruz, Bailey, Blackmon, Britt, Holmes, Patton, Steve Smith
TE - Green, Witten, Robinson
2014: 1.08, 2.05, 3.08, 4.05

Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/a_swinderman

User avatar
FiremanEd
Legend
Legend
Posts: 6822
Joined: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:51 pm

Re: Marqise Lee

Postby FiremanEd » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:36 pm

guyatwork37 wrote:#2 receiver in this draft. People saying he is 5 to 10 WR in this class are high on goof balls. Oh no he had a crap qb and got hurt a little this season. SUCKS. INJURY PRONE. Please...
A little defensive? Just because you don't think so doesn't make any one else wrong. I'm sure many have watched more tape and games than you on all the prospects as well. If the draft was an exact science you wouldn't see as many misses as you do. Different people prefer different things or see different things. Still lots to play out but I see reasons to be less optimistic on Lee than after 2012 and they have varying weight for different people.

If you look at rankings from previous seasons against actual NFL performance I'm sure it would surprise you.

For me, I have Lee as my #3 WR personally, but want to watch more on the various guys. Can see how he could fall to #5 depending what your looking for.


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests