Jordan Matthews vs Allen Robinson

[Defender]

On talent alone, who do you like better? And where would you draft each one?

I have them at 1.06 & 1.07, and I think Matthews has the edge on talent, but alma mater loyalty influences me to put Robinson over Matthews.

Thoughts?

[NewtotheBiz]

Mattews has a more consistent track record of prolonged production (3 years to AR's 2 years), and has done it against better competition (SEC vs Big 10), but they are very similar otherwise. Both make the catch with their hands, both are nearly identical in size, and neither possesses elite speed, but that is not evident in their on-field play (in other words, they don't get caught from behind often).

I'm personally more familiar with Matthews being a Tennessee fan, but both will be successful. Matthews is a cousin of Jerry Rice for what that's worth. You could maybe make an argument for pedigree with him. If I'm drafting and I have the choice between the two, I'm taking Matthews, but it's only on personal preference and familiarity as I think they are too close to make a definitive argument for either prior to the combine. Something could come out there that pushes me one way or the other.

[Butt Liqueur]

On talent alone, who do you like better? And where would you draft each one?

I have them at 1.06 & 1.07, and I think Matthews has the edge on talent, but alma mater loyalty influences me to put Robinson over Matthews.

Thoughts?

Most people here are much more knowledgeable about the subject than I am, and they seem to prefer Matthews. Watching footage from this year, I liked what I saw from Robinson and it looked like he had a much more expanded route tree. Mattews didn't look bad by any means, and this is based on limited research, but I might give Robinson the edge between these two

[aaroneous]

These two have been two of my favorites since last year and will jump for joy if I can pick either of them in any dynasty league I am in. That being said, I'm also a sucker for blood lines and general drive to succeed. I haven't read or heard much from Robinson on these fronts but Matthews is Rice's cousin and the fact that he wanted take on the defensive backs for the Senior Bowl says a lot about his work ethic to me. That type of work ethic is often the thing that can keep a top prospect from gaining elite status and isn't necessarily the easiest thing to coach into a player. That puts Matthews ahead for me, but not insanely far ahead. I have both of them in my top 5 at WR.

[ebsteelers]

you said yourself your a penn state guy.. then take the penn state guy..

i think they both are gonna be great pros.. I am state fan also... and looking to take robinson in at least one of my leagues.

heres the thing.. if you dont take robinson, and he goes on to have a great career your gonna be kicking yourself. so take your penn state guy and enjoy his career

[-THE DUDE-]

you said yourself your a penn state guy.. then take the penn state guy..

i think they both are gonna be great pros.. I am state fan also... and looking to take robinson in at least one of my leagues.

heres the thing.. if you dont take robinson, and he goes on to have a great career your gonna be kicking yourself. so take your penn state guy and enjoy his career

That's kind of a poor reason to choose a player unless you absolutely think they are equal. Have to put your loyalties aside when playing FF...

That being said i think that Matthews is the better player and i think he's more proven against much better competition. By much better competition it blows the little 12 out of the water and he was really the only big time threat on Vandy so teams had to focus on him.

[ebsteelers]

you said yourself your a penn state guy.. then take the penn state guy..

i think they both are gonna be great pros.. I am state fan also... and looking to take robinson in at least one of my leagues.

heres the thing.. if you dont take robinson, and he goes on to have a great career your gonna be kicking yourself. so take your penn state guy and enjoy his career

That's kind of a poor reason to choose a player unless you absolutely think they are equal. Have to put your loyalties aside when playing FF...

That being said i think that Matthews is the better player and i think he's more proven against much better competition. By much better competition it blows the little 12 out of the water and he was really the only big time threat on Vandy so teams had to focus on him.

Its really not a poor reason when he says he has them 1.06 and 1.07. If its a coin flip to him why not take the player your going to enjoy rooting for thru out his career and have followed thru out college. Likely they are going to be drafted very close to enjoy other in the real draft as well. If they are 1.01 and 2.16 then its one thing to be spilt. But if your spliting hairs might as well take the guy you like.

As far as the competition goes, the SEC is a better conference, but Vanderbilt was very lucky in their scheduling when looking at who they really played rather then just that he was in the SEC.


OP, i dont think you can go wrong either way

[ebsteelers]

you said yourself your a penn state guy.. then take the penn state guy..

i think they both are gonna be great pros.. I am state fan also... and looking to take robinson in at least one of my leagues.

heres the thing.. if you dont take robinson, and he goes on to have a great career your gonna be kicking yourself. so take your penn state guy and enjoy his career

That's kind of a poor reason to choose a player unless you absolutely think they are equal. Have to put your loyalties aside when playing FF...

That being said i think that Matthews is the better player and i think he's more proven against much better competition. By much better competition it blows the little 12 out of the water and he was really the only big time threat on Vandy so teams had to focus on him.

[-THE DUDE-]

you said yourself your a penn state guy.. then take the penn state guy..

i think they both are gonna be great pros.. I am state fan also... and looking to take robinson in at least one of my leagues.

heres the thing.. if you dont take robinson, and he goes on to have a great career your gonna be kicking yourself. so take your penn state guy and enjoy his career

That's kind of a poor reason to choose a player unless you absolutely think they are equal. Have to put your loyalties aside when playing FF...

That being said i think that Matthews is the better player and i think he's more proven against much better competition. By much better competition it blows the little 12 out of the water and he was really the only big time threat on Vandy so teams had to focus on him.

Its really not a poor reason when he says he has them 1.06 and 1.07. If its a coin flip to him why not take the player your going to enjoy rooting for thru out his career and have followed thru out college. Likely they are going to be drafted very close to enjoy other in the real draft as well. If they are 1.01 and 2.16 then its one thing to be spilt. But if your spliting hairs might as well take the guy you like.

As far as the competition goes, the SEC is a better conference, but Vanderbilt was very lucky in their scheduling when looking at who they really played rather then just that he was in the SEC.


OP, i dont think you can go wrong either way

that's why i said if he really thinks they are that close...i've just seen too many FF players lose out on better players because they rate their own favorite players too high because they can't seem to let check their loyalties. I was mainly just pointing that out in general as we go through draft season more so than just this one specific example.

[bob2005]

Based on production, I would lean towards Matthews. Based on physical talent alone, I'm not sure I wouldn't go with Robinson instead. He jumps out a little bit more for me. It's really close. I probably don't have a shot at either, but I'm glad I don't have to make a decision before the Combine and the NFL Draft between these two.

[italian_stallion21]

Honestly, if both are available at my pick, I'm taking whatever one was drafted to a better situation, they're that close. I'm REALLY hoping the 49er's grab one of them.

[Mike_Blahnik]

I'm at Robinson>Matthews, personally.

[flexcapacitor]

Robinson does a lot of things just a little better then Matthews. Matthews is a little faster but Robinson is more physical, better burst off of the ball and runs crisper routes.

[aaroneous]

that's why i said if he really thinks they are that close...i've just seen too many FF players lose out on better players because they rate their own favorite players too high because they can't seem to let check their loyalties. I was mainly just pointing that out in general as we go through draft season more so than just this one specific example.

I almost take it to too much of an extreme. I scare myself away from draft Patriots because I know I have unrealistic hopes for them. While everyone has their preference, once the draft happens one will probably land in a more favorable scenario for our purposes. I wouldn't expect the combine to be something that separates them.

[RossOfTheYear]

per NFL.com and Rotoworld



Vanderbilt senior WR Jordan Matthews was "spectacular" at Tuesday's Senior Bowl practice, according to NFL.com's Chase Goodbread.
Matthews was upset with himself for dropping some passes on Monday, and he made up for it the next day. "He will go into the briar patch, take his hits and keep on ticking," NFL Media analyst Charles Davis said after Tuesday's practice. "I never worry about that part with him. Obviously, people are going to want to know what he runs (at the combine). All in all, I think he's a big-time prospect. Let's face it: How many quarterbacks threw to him at Vanderbilt? Try to name them all. Yet everyone knew he was coming each week in the SEC." Matthews remained after practice to work on red-zone throws with Derek Carr. He's a coach's dream.