MOST RELIABLE SCOUT

[NJKV]

guess im the only one that thinks waldman does a pretty poor job. i think the two best talent evaluators are mike mayock and Daniel jeremiah

He puts in a lot of works so you don't have to and does a good job at it. His rankings can be wack sometimes but his RSP isn't the bible of dynasty scouting. He charges 20 bucks for a 600 page document. In which, he watches every play of every game of these guys. It is a great deal for the information.

As for DJ and Mayock, these are guys to pay attention too also. I think Jeremiah is one of the best scouts that isn't employed by a team right now. He knows his stuff. I think Mayock has a little out there opinions, like Waldman.

[Jimmy Jones]

I bought Waldman's Rookie Scouting portfolio and I agree, these rankings are a bit wack. There is some good info in there but I can only take the rankings with a grain of salt. I'm not passing on Marquise Lee and Brandin Cooks for guys like Robert Heron, Bruce Ellington, Cody Lattimer, and Martavis Bryant. Those guys are sleepers. 3rd-5th round picks..

[KingsKing]

I bought Waldman's Rookie Scouting portfolio and I agree, these rankings are a bit wack. There is some good info in there but I can only take the rankings with a grain of salt. I'm not passing on Marquise Lee and Brandin Cooks for guys like Robert Heron, Bruce Ellington, Cody Lattimer, and Martavis Bryant. Those guys are sleepers. 3rd-5th round picks..

IF you pay attention he points out several times his rankings are based on upside,talent, breakout ability etc, he mentions his rankings are not a guideline to follow when drafting and even gives specific areas to look to draft a player Bryant for example he says to look for in the 3rd round. He also will be coming out with a big board after the draft when players are drafted and he can factor situation and systems into the mock.

[lifesyourcup]

guess im the only one that thinks waldman does a pretty poor job. i think the two best talent evaluators are mike mayock and Daniel jeremiah

Mayock is horrible on skill players and he has knee-jerk reactions just like the rest of the major media guys.

[knotts4372]

I bought Waldman's Rookie Scouting portfolio and I agree, these rankings are a bit wack. There is some good info in there but I can only take the rankings with a grain of salt. I'm not passing on Marquise Lee and Brandin Cooks for guys like Robert Heron, Bruce Ellington, Cody Lattimer, and Martavis Bryant. Those guys are sleepers. 3rd-5th round picks..

IF you pay attention he points out several times his rankings are based on upside,talent, breakout ability etc, he mentions his rankings are not a guideline to follow when drafting and even gives specific areas to look to draft a player Bryant for example he says to look for in the 3rd round. He also will be coming out with a big board after the draft when players are drafted and he can factor situation and systems into the mock.

I believe waldman elevates these 3rd-5th rd guys because if he puts a guy like cooks or marquise lee high and the hit big its eh cause lots of ppl thought they would. if he puts guys like ellington and Bryant high and they don't hit its kinda like oh well but if once in a while they hit then he makes himself to look like a genius. why in the world would anyone pay for a report on information you can partially do yourself and find for free from multiple other places? part of the fun for me is to do my own research. not pay for some schlub to do a piss poor job at it. once again just my opinion. don't wanna offend the matt waldman lovers out there

[Hottoddies]

I think the true value in reading (expert?) evaluations and checking out mock drafts is to see how others view a prospect. Ultimately, you need to do your own film study and use the opinions of others to gauge where you need to target that player.

[voiceofunreason]

I bought Waldman's Rookie Scouting portfolio and I agree, these rankings are a bit wack. There is some good info in there but I can only take the rankings with a grain of salt. I'm not passing on Marquise Lee and Brandin Cooks for guys like Robert Heron, Bruce Ellington, Cody Lattimer, and Martavis Bryant. Those guys are sleepers. 3rd-5th round picks..

IF you pay attention he points out several times his rankings are based on upside,talent, breakout ability etc, he mentions his rankings are not a guideline to follow when drafting and even gives specific areas to look to draft a player Bryant for example he says to look for in the 3rd round. He also will be coming out with a big board after the draft when players are drafted and he can factor situation and systems into the mock.

So no matter what he says he wasn't wrong then? If a guy is great he predicted it and if he isn't, he was only talking about upside. Guess that makes it a tad easier.

If the rankings aren't of any use for fantasy drafts who do you think they are meant for?

[clarion contrarion]

I bought Waldman's Rookie Scouting portfolio and I agree, these rankings are a bit wack. There is some good info in there but I can only take the rankings with a grain of salt. I'm not passing on Marquise Lee and Brandin Cooks for guys like Robert Heron, Bruce Ellington, Cody Lattimer, and Martavis Bryant. Those guys are sleepers. 3rd-5th round picks..

IF you pay attention he points out several times his rankings are based on upside,talent, breakout ability etc, he mentions his rankings are not a guideline to follow when drafting and even gives specific areas to look to draft a player Bryant for example he says to look for in the 3rd round. He also will be coming out with a big board after the draft when players are drafted and he can factor situation and systems into the mock.

I believe waldman elevates these 3rd-5th rd guys because if he puts a guy like cooks or marquise lee high and the hit big its eh cause lots of ppl thought they would. if he puts guys like ellington and Bryant high and they don't hit its kinda like oh well but if once in a while they hit then he makes himself to look like a genius. why in the world would anyone pay for a report on information you can partially do yourself and find for free from multiple other places? part of the fun for me is to do my own research. not pay for some schlub to do a piss poor job at it. once again just my opinion. don't wanna offend the matt waldman lovers out there

I rarely seem to agree with your takes or player assessments but I think this post is money ... almost what I was about to write word for word .
everyone knows someone like this .... they always remember when they are right but dismiss when they are wrong as someone else missing something

this is the guy that pounded the table for chad spann and darrin evans if I recall .

[polk_high_allstar]

I bought Waldman's Rookie Scouting portfolio and I agree, these rankings are a bit wack. There is some good info in there but I can only take the rankings with a grain of salt. I'm not passing on Marquise Lee and Brandin Cooks for guys like Robert Heron, Bruce Ellington, Cody Lattimer, and Martavis Bryant. Those guys are sleepers. 3rd-5th round picks..

I was thinking about buying this as well but if doesn't have any value maybe I'll just see if i can get a copy on the web. Anyone know of a link or site that you might find a copy?

Thanks

[KingsKing]

I bought Waldman's Rookie Scouting portfolio and I agree, these rankings are a bit wack. There is some good info in there but I can only take the rankings with a grain of salt. I'm not passing on Marquise Lee and Brandin Cooks for guys like Robert Heron, Bruce Ellington, Cody Lattimer, and Martavis Bryant. Those guys are sleepers. 3rd-5th round picks..

I was thinking about buying this as well but if doesn't have any value maybe I'll just see if i can get a copy on the web. Anyone know of a link or site that you might find a copy?

Thanks

Yeah sure, paypal me $10.00 , I paid full price for mine and so did everyone else who has it why should you get it for free?

[dlf_jules]

I was thinking about buying this as well but if doesn't have any value maybe I'll just see if i can get a copy on the web. Anyone know of a link or site that you might find a copy?

Thanks

Yeah, that's illegal.

[clarion contrarion]

I was thinking about buying this as well but if doesn't have any value maybe I'll just see if i can get a copy on the web. Anyone know of a link or site that you might find a copy?

Thanks

Yeah, that's illegal.

so is speeding so never do it again captain morality


although if he thinks the guys takes suck then why would he want them at any price .... too much info is nearly as bad as not enough

[dlf_jules]

captain morality

My apologies. I know how much you hate it when people are judgmental on these forums.

maybe its my age but the clothes don't matter so much , although I find the hat choice to be retarded he isn't the loan ranger of his generation for that particular fashion disaster but anyone who is covered in tattoos is suspect to me ... I mean jesus christ dude just buy a painting or uses yer signing bonus to fund a mural somewhere .

self expression is fine but I want people making sound judgments and splattering your body with a bucket of ink and calling it artwork or a dedication or a memorial is idiotic & does not scream solid judgment in my opinion

[clarion contrarion]

captain morality

My apologies. I know how much you hate it when people are judgmental on these forums.

maybe its my age but the clothes don't matter so much , although I find the hat choice to be retarded he isn't the loan ranger of his generation for that particular fashion disaster but anyone who is covered in tattoos is suspect to me ... I mean jesus christ dude just buy a painting or uses yer signing bonus to fund a mural somewhere .

self expression is fine but I want people making sound judgments and splattering your body with a bucket of ink and calling it artwork or a dedication or a memorial is idiotic & does not scream solid judgment in my opinion

hey thx for bookmarking my greatest hits ... it will help my work live on in perpetuity
last I knew having an opinion in this country was not illegal but speeding still is ....... and probably will be even after the thought police revoke freedom of speech and expression
thx for trying out there jr.

[Jimmy Jones]

I bought Waldman's Rookie Scouting portfolio and I agree, these rankings are a bit wack. There is some good info in there but I can only take the rankings with a grain of salt. I'm not passing on Marquise Lee and Brandin Cooks for guys like Robert Heron, Bruce Ellington, Cody Lattimer, and Martavis Bryant. Those guys are sleepers. 3rd-5th round picks..

I was thinking about buying this as well but if doesn't have any value maybe I'll just see if i can get a copy on the web. Anyone know of a link or site that you might find a copy?

Thanks

I never said it didn't have value, I just said the rankings are wack. There's 1,300 pages if data and the player write ups are great. I've been reading the info and it's value able and enjoyable. I just won't be taking Robert Herron, Bruce Ellington, Martavis Bryant, Paul Richardson, or Cody Lattimer before guys like Marquise Lee, Jordan Matthews, Allen Robinson, Brandin Cooks, and Kelvin Benjamin.