2013 vs 2014 WRs
2013 vs 2014 WRs
Having gone through almost an entire season now, where do you rank the top 5 or so 2014 wrs (Watkins, Evans, Lee, Benjamin, Robinson ect.) with the current 2013 Rookies (Allen, Patterson, Austin, Hopkins)?
For me it's something like:
1. Keenan Allen
2. Sammy Watkins
3. Marqise Lee
4. Mike Evans
5. Deandre Hopkins
6. Cordarrelle Patterson
7. Kelvin Benjamin
8. Allen Robinson
9. Tavon Austin
Where do you guys have them?
For me it's something like:
1. Keenan Allen
2. Sammy Watkins
3. Marqise Lee
4. Mike Evans
5. Deandre Hopkins
6. Cordarrelle Patterson
7. Kelvin Benjamin
8. Allen Robinson
9. Tavon Austin
Where do you guys have them?
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I'm still holding out hope for Austin. I think some guys make the transition to the NFL easier than others. So with that said my top 6 (at this time) are below.
1. Sammy Watkins
2. Keenan Allen
3. Marquise Lee
4. Mike Evans
5. Cordarrelle Patterson
6. Tavon Austin
** However, I would like to note that should Marquise Lee return to form, similar to that of his 2012 season, I'd probably list him #1. His 2012 highlights were the most impressive of all I've seen of the above IMO.
1. Sammy Watkins
2. Keenan Allen
3. Marquise Lee
4. Mike Evans
5. Cordarrelle Patterson
6. Tavon Austin
** However, I would like to note that should Marquise Lee return to form, similar to that of his 2012 season, I'd probably list him #1. His 2012 highlights were the most impressive of all I've seen of the above IMO.
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Re: 2013 vs 2014 WRs
1. Allen
2. Lee
3. Watkins
4. Benjamin
5. Patterson
6. Hopkins
7. Austin
8. Evans
9. Matthews
10. Adams
2. Lee
3. Watkins
4. Benjamin
5. Patterson
6. Hopkins
7. Austin
8. Evans
9. Matthews
10. Adams
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Re: 2013 vs 2014 WRs
1.) Watkins
----big drop off----
2.) Allen
3.) Hopkins
4.) Patterson
5.) Lee
6.) Matthews
7.) Kelvin Benjamin
8.) DeVante Adams
9.) Justin Hunter
10.) Allen Robinson
----big drop off----
2.) Allen
3.) Hopkins
4.) Patterson
5.) Lee
6.) Matthews
7.) Kelvin Benjamin
8.) DeVante Adams
9.) Justin Hunter
10.) Allen Robinson
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Re: 2013 vs 2014 WRs
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CP84 is special to be his size and move like that in the open field is insane. Once he gets the route tree down and someone competent throwing him the ball it's over. Like Allen just think he's a good player he ended up in SD where WR core is bad and took starting job. I think situation he fell in to was great and he is good enuff to take advantage of it. I know a lot are going to look at Q.Patton with a weird eye, he was just my guy loved him at LA Tech.
C.Patterson
M.Lee
J.Mathews
K.Allen
M.Evans
D.Hopkins
B.Coleman
Q.Patton
R.Woods
CP84 is special to be his size and move like that in the open field is insane. Once he gets the route tree down and someone competent throwing him the ball it's over. Like Allen just think he's a good player he ended up in SD where WR core is bad and took starting job. I think situation he fell in to was great and he is good enuff to take advantage of it. I know a lot are going to look at Q.Patton with a weird eye, he was just my guy loved him at LA Tech.
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Re: 2013 vs 2014 WRs
This may sound crazy but I'm just going to put it out there...
I would not trade Patterson for the 2014 1.01. Conversely, I would trade my 2014 1.01 for Patterson. That's how much I believe already.
Patterson
Watkins
Lee
Allen
Evans
Hopkins
D Adams
Matthews
Robinson
Hunter
Cooks
Benjamin
Austin
I would not trade Patterson for the 2014 1.01. Conversely, I would trade my 2014 1.01 for Patterson. That's how much I believe already.
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Watkins
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Allen
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D Adams
Matthews
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Cooks
Benjamin
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Keenan AllenKierke wrote:Having gone through almost an entire season now, where do you rank the top 5 or so 2014 wrs (Watkins, Evans, Lee, Benjamin, Robinson ect.) with the current 2013 Rookies (Allen, Patterson, Austin, Hopkins)?
For me it's something like:
1. Keenan Allen
2. Sammy Watkins
3. Marqise Lee
4. Mike Evans
5. Deandre Hopkins
6. Cordarrelle Patterson
7. Kelvin Benjamin
8. Allen Robinson
9. Tavon Austin
Where do you guys have them?
DeAndre Hopkins
Cordarelle Patterson
Sammy Watkins
Mike Evans
Kelvin Benjamin
Marqise Lee
Tavon Austin
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Re: 2013 vs 2014 WRs
That's interesting, I've heard a lot of people say that Watkins is a more polished version of PattersonMike_Blahnik wrote:This may sound crazy but I'm just going to put it out there...
I would not trade Patterson for the 2014 1.01. Conversely, I would trade my 2014 1.01 for Patterson. That's how much I believe already.
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Re: 2013 vs 2014 WRs
Appreciate you asking...I've been thinking about this quite a bit lately.
First off, I feel it's harder to stop larger, more physically imposing dudes. Watkins is not as big as I would like if I'm projecting him as my team's future WR1.
Moving on, the polish factor is an owner preference/decision.
You could justifiably see that as Watkins being ahead of Patterson on the learning curve. That is, I think, widely accepted as fact and not anything I would dispute.
Look at it another way and it might indicate that Patterson has a larger opportunity in front of him to improve.
If today Watkins is 80% polished and Patterson is 40% polished who are you more excited to see at 100% polished: Watkins at 125% of today or Patterson at 250% of today?
Framed that way I'll take Patterson every time and not look back, even though he is undeniably riskier. It may be batsh*t crazy, but I've talked myself into it.
First off, I feel it's harder to stop larger, more physically imposing dudes. Watkins is not as big as I would like if I'm projecting him as my team's future WR1.
Moving on, the polish factor is an owner preference/decision.
You could justifiably see that as Watkins being ahead of Patterson on the learning curve. That is, I think, widely accepted as fact and not anything I would dispute.
Look at it another way and it might indicate that Patterson has a larger opportunity in front of him to improve.
If today Watkins is 80% polished and Patterson is 40% polished who are you more excited to see at 100% polished: Watkins at 125% of today or Patterson at 250% of today?
Framed that way I'll take Patterson every time and not look back, even though he is undeniably riskier. It may be batsh*t crazy, but I've talked myself into it.
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Re: 2013 vs 2014 WRs
I'd rank these
1. Cordarelle Patterson
2. Sammy Watkins
3. Mike Evans
4. Keenan Allen
5. Marquise Lee
6. Deandre Hopkins
7. Devontae Adams
8. Jordan Matthews
9. Kelvin Benjamin
10. Allen Robinson
11. Tavon Austin
1. Cordarelle Patterson
2. Sammy Watkins
3. Mike Evans
4. Keenan Allen
5. Marquise Lee
6. Deandre Hopkins
7. Devontae Adams
8. Jordan Matthews
9. Kelvin Benjamin
10. Allen Robinson
11. Tavon Austin
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To me, this actually sounds like a good comparisson of Patterson and Allen. Allen has had a more solid year but Patterson definitely has a lot more room to grow. I'm extremely impressed with his athleticism but it looks like he really needs to improve on his catching. If he can learn to catch a deep ball in coverage he could be on the Dez tier.Mike_Blahnik wrote:Appreciate you asking...I've been thinking about this quite a bit lately.
First off, I feel it's harder to stop larger, more physically imposing dudes. Watkins is not as big as I would like if I'm projecting him as my team's future WR1.
Moving on, the polish factor is an owner preference/decision.
You could justifiably see that as Watkins being ahead of Patterson on the learning curve. That is, I think, widely accepted as fact and not anything I would dispute.
Look at it another way and it might indicate that Patterson has a larger opportunity in front of him to improve.
If today Watkins is 80% polished and Patterson is 40% polished who are you more excited to see at 100% polished: Watkins at 125% of today or Patterson at 250% of today?
Framed that way I'll take Patterson every time and not look back, even though he is undeniably riskier. It may be batsh*t crazy, but I've talked myself into it.
Dez's rookie year: 45 catches, 561 yards, 6 TD's and some flashy punt/KO returns.
Patterson: 43 catches, 438 yards, 3 TD's, and some flashy retuns. Add in 104 rushing yards and 2 rush TD's with one game still left to go and they're pretty even.
Both also have one 1 100+ yard receving game.
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Re: 2013 vs 2014 WRs
^THIS.CL3VELANDBR0WNS wrote:1.) Watkins
----big drop off----
2.) Allen
3.) Hopkins
4.) Patterson
5.) Lee
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Imo, Watkins is just a small notch below a A.J. Green / Julio Jones type of prospect. He should be the 1.01 pick in nearly every 2014 dynasty league rookie draft.
To wit, in a league where I acquired the 2014 1.01 pick through a trade in 2012, and my WR corp already consists of Julio Jones, Keenan Allen, DeSean Jackson, Alshon Jeffery, Jordy Nelson, Michael Crabtree, Kendall Wright, Marvin Jones and Jarrett Boykin, and where my RB, QB, and TE depth is shaky at best, I won't think twice about using that 1.01 pick on Watkins.
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Interesting take. Watkins will only garner more momentum as he lights up the combine.
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Re: 2013 vs 2014 WRs
1. Sammy Watkins
2. Cordarrelle Patterson
3. Jordan Matthews
4. Keenan Allen
5. DeAndre Hopkins
6. Marqise Lee
7. Allen Robinson
8. Donte Moncreif
9. Davante Adams
10. Jarvis Landry
11. Tavon Austin
12. Brandin Cooks
2. Cordarrelle Patterson
3. Jordan Matthews
4. Keenan Allen
5. DeAndre Hopkins
6. Marqise Lee
7. Allen Robinson
8. Donte Moncreif
9. Davante Adams
10. Jarvis Landry
11. Tavon Austin
12. Brandin Cooks
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Mike Evans is not on your top 12 WR ?
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