2017 Rookies - higher/lower than consensus

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2017 Rookies - higher/lower than consensus

Postby Diti51 » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:02 pm

So who is everyone/anyone higher or lower than consensus "experts" - obviously based on tape without metrics or landing spot so far.

I am lower on Gallman. Effort player, but just pales in comparison when I look at guys like Alvin Kamara. I see him as a better NFL player than fantasy asset. If he runs faster than I expect or landing spot ideal, may consider moving him up. But so far, just can't get on board with how high many view him.

Corey Clement I want to like more, but just can't get there. Grinder, but lacks agility and burst and given Wisconsin never passes, unclear how good his hands are. Plus other guys I would likely take over him.

Alvin Kamara is super impressive to me. I have him as my 3rd/4th RB in this entire draft class.

Still watching film on a lot of these guys on draft breakdown but that's what I have so far. Anyone else you are higher or lower on than others and why?
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Re: 2017 Rookies - higher/lower than consensus

Postby bruiser » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:01 pm

I'm starting to lower my expectations of JuJu Smith. I'm not a draftnik, so I tend to believe the consensus in this community that he is worth watching for a fall in stock.

I am growing higher on McCaffrey and Mixon. I have the 1.08 and will be looking to hit something good there. Mixon looks like a pro-ready player, and McCaffrey is lightning in a bottle, too. I always seek out players with return skills like McCaffrey has.
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Re: 2017 Rookies - higher/lower than consensus

Postby alewilliam789 » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:49 pm

Diti51 wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:02 pm So who is everyone/anyone higher or lower than consensus "experts" - obviously based on tape without metrics or landing spot so far.

I am lower on Gallman. Effort player, but just pales in comparison when I look at guys like Alvin Kamara. I see him as a better NFL player than fantasy asset. If he runs faster than I expect or landing spot ideal, may consider moving him up. But so far, just can't get on board with how high many view him.

Corey Clement I want to like more, but just can't get there. Grinder, but lacks agility and burst and given Wisconsin never passes, unclear how good his hands are. Plus other guys I would likely take over him.

Alvin Kamara is super impressive to me. I have him as my 3rd/4th RB in this entire draft class.

Still watching film on a lot of these guys on draft breakdown but that's what I have so far. Anyone else you are higher or lower on than others and why?
I'm going to be honest and say I haven't seen what everyone sees in Kamara's tape to draft him as high, but before I dismiss him I will probably watch more tape.

I think with Gallman he's valued so high because he's a really good all around running back and has good tools to become a workhorse or get a bunch of touches in a offense. He can pound it up the middle, he has enough speed and the shiftiness to create on the outside, and he's shown pretty solid hands as a receiver. For me it will come down to his quickness at the combine. I love his quickness and burst, but if he tests sub-par in those departments I will probably be looking at him more of a 2nd round prospect in rookie drafts. I think he will test solid in the 40 so I expect him to end up in the 1st of most drafts.
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Re: 2017 Rookies - higher/lower than consensus

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:58 am

Riley Bullough. But that's IDP ;)
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Re: 2017 Rookies - higher/lower than consensus

Postby DynoScout » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:01 am

Hard to say because I try to stay in my bubble this time of year to avoid group think, but I seem more interested in these WR than most:
John Ross
KD Cannon
ArDarius Stewart
Chris Godwin
Noah Brown

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Re: 2017 Rookies - higher/lower than consensus

Postby wildabeast49 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:46 am

Noah Brown and Curtis Samuel for me, and Im no OSU homer. Kenny Golladay as a later round guy.
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Re: 2017 Rookies - higher/lower than consensus

Postby Cherokee » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:10 am

Low on
JuJu
McCaffery
Ross
Perine
Canon

High on
Engram
Brian Hill
Jerome Lane
Switzer
James Connor
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Re: 2017 Rookies - higher/lower than consensus

Postby Miah35 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:35 am

I agree with you on Kamara. I have him as my RB3 in this draft.

I also agree with being lower on Juju.

I also think Samaje Perine is going to be a very good prospect. He is very fluid and mobile for his size. I have him higher than Mixon

I am also very high on Amara Darboh. He has very good measurables and is a very good route runner. THis Senior Bowl is only bringing attention to what I've seen all year. I think he will be a better version of Tajae Sharpe this year.


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