2017 Draft Discussion Thread

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Xulu Bak » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:36 pm

Don't forget USC's Mike Williams of Matt Millen and Mel Kiper Jr.'s delusions of grandeur.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby TrueDawg » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:43 pm

All drafted rookie contracts updated so far.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby StuUKWI » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:55 pm

Well, I would have taken Howard over both the wrs. Probably should have traded down but I had meant to have Williams ahead of Ross and had troubles with predraft thing.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Tonystavoli » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:35 pm

Debated a few guys here, went with the long term pick. probably won't get anything out of him this year, but If cook and Kamara can be my backs for the next 5 years, I'll be set at the rb position.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby TrueDawg » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:11 pm

NAH - JOE - COO

He's the guy I was hoping would be there all along. Dude is only 20 years old...hasn't even scratched the surface of how good he can be. I think he has a higher ceiling than Howard and he should be the day 1 starter and a popular target.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby TrueDawg » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:12 pm

Tonystavoli wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:35 pm Debated a few guys here, went with the long term pick. probably won't get anything out of him this year, but If cook and Kamara can be my backs for the next 5 years, I'll be set at the rb position.
I like Kamara a lot and he went into a perfect situation with Sean Payton, apart from having lots of competition in the short term.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Dre » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:14 pm

TrueDawg wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:11 pm NAH - JOE - COO

He's the guy I was hoping would be there all along. Dude is only 20 years old...hasn't even scratched the surface of how good he can be. I think he has a higher ceiling than Howard and he should be the day 1 starter and a popular target.
HOMER!

In all seriousness though I also like Njoku ahead of Howard, Howard is better right now but I think Njoku could be really special. I also think he doesn't have nearly as much competition for targets in the near future. Good pick

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby TrueDawg » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:17 pm

Dre wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:14 pm HOMER!

In all seriousness though I also like Njoku ahead of Howard, Howard is better right now but I think Njoku could be really special. I also think he doesn't have nearly as much competition for targets in the near future. Good pick
I'm okay with being called a homer. I think the Browns are building something. And I agree...lots of mouths to feed in Tampa. Brate is no slouch himself...they'll probably run a lot of 2-TE sets.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby jimscafs25 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:02 pm

Gotta say, I had Engram higher than Njoku.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby citsalp1 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:15 pm

jimscafs25 wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:02 pm Gotta say, I had Engram higher than Njoku.
As did I....kinda screwed me up...Thinking here....

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby TrueDawg » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:06 pm

That's cool...I think Njoku is as talented as any TE in this class, and like I said, I don't think Njoku has even scratched the surface. Howard and Engram might be better now but...we'll see. :D

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Xulu Bak » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:58 am

I like all three TEs taken quite a bit, and a couple that haven't been yet. This could be a truly great TE class. Engram probably has the highest ceiling of the three taken from a fantasy football perspective, but I think Howard has a much greater chance of reaching his potential.

Njoku has lots of upside, but TE seems to attract a lot of freak athletes that pick up the sport late. That works in college, but few seem able to make the transition. In addition to the already steep learning curve of transitioning from college to NFL TE, his hands need serious work, which for whatever reason seems to be one of the hardest things to develop at the next level.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby citsalp1 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:30 pm

Went with the Jokker type pick. had 5 or 6 different players slotted here, but with Benjamin showing up at OTA's looking like an offensive tackle, Funchess not showing much.
I don't even look at ADP...unless it's personalized for our league which is so unique. I just watch tape and go from there....
Sorry it took so long. As a huge Falcon fan, picking a Panties player in the first round required more alcohol than normally needed.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby TrueDawg » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:39 pm

citsalp1 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:30 pm Went with the Jokker type pick. had 5 or 6 different players slotted here, but with Benjamin showing up at OTA's looking like an offensive tackle, Funchess not showing much.
I don't even look at ADP...unless it's personalized for our league which is so unique. I just watch tape and go from there....
Sorry it took so long. As a huge Falcon fan, picking a Panties player in the first round required more alcohol than normally needed.
Yeah I do my own evaluations (I'm sure we all do)...about the only time I pay attention to ADP is if I see someone falling way below their ADP or if it looks like I might really be reaching compared to ADP. Then I do a little more homework.

I wasn't sure what to do with Samuel...he's pretty small, and I prefer my WRs bigger. But the Panthers WRs are trash. Even if Benjamin slims down, he still can't catch. Samuel's really dynamic and I think he'll get some touches out of the backfield. Intriguing pick for sure.

There are still a bunch of good players on the board.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Xulu Bak » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:50 pm

I like Samuel. I would have liked him more had he gone elsewhere. I'm not convinced Carolina will effectively develop him as a WR, or utilize him in a way that will maximize his ability and versatility. I have similar concerns with McCaffrey. They wanted "versatile weapons." They got them, but do they know what to do with them?

The only thing I trust in that offense with Cam at the helm is Greg Olsen getting a ton of targets.


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