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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Tom155 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:12 am

I'm looking to move up from #15 if anyone's interested in trading back

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby sprtsfrk208 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:37 am

Dre wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:09 pm
Xulu Bak wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:10 pm
Dre wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:01 pm Nice pick, Hunt was the guy I was gonna take if I had to, just felt that my roster currently has a stack of young RBs and I wanted to go in a different direction
I've seen some sites listing him around this high, but seems like a reach to me. He's not even close to the BPA on talent, and I can think of at least one back that I'd argue has a better opportunity. I guess I'm just not buying the hype, but time will tell.
I disagree, I really liked him as a prospect and I think he landed in a very good spot
My thoughts exactly. I get he might be a little hyped, but he can definitely beat out Ware for the starting spot.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby TrueDawg » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:32 am

sprtsfrk208 wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:37 am My thoughts exactly. I get he might be a little hyped, but he can definitely beat out Ware for the starting spot.
Maybe not week one but I think he can too. Perine was the back I would have picked over Hunt...Washington has nothing in front of him.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Xulu Bak » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:42 am

Ugh! Rough night/morning. The last two picks did nothing to make this pick easier. Open to trading down...maybe even out...but I do like a couple options here.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Xulu Bak » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:52 am

sprtsfrk208 wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:37 am
Dre wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:09 pm
Xulu Bak wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:10 pm

I've seen some sites listing him around this high, but seems like a reach to me. He's not even close to the BPA on talent, and I can think of at least one back that I'd argue has a better opportunity. I guess I'm just not buying the hype, but time will tell.
I disagree, I really liked him as a prospect and I think he landed in a very good spot
My thoughts exactly. I get he might be a little hyped, but he can definitely beat out Ware for the starting spot.
And, then what? I think best case scenario he's #1 of a crowded RBBC, compounded by the fact the Chiefs are almost certainly going to find creative ways to get Tyreek Hill the ball. Hunt is not an especially explosive athlete for the position. His big play ability is limited. He's sharing carries, and probably not a favorite for 3rd down or goal line looks. He might win the starting job, but his upside seems fairly limited, especially compared to some of the alternatives in this class.
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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Xulu Bak » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:55 am

TrueDawg wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:32 am
sprtsfrk208 wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:37 am My thoughts exactly. I get he might be a little hyped, but he can definitely beat out Ware for the starting spot.
Maybe not week one but I think he can too. Perine was the back I would have picked over Hunt...Washington has nothing in front of him.
Perine is the back I was alluding to as well. I think he's a better talent, going into a better situation. Still not the BPA, but all things considered, probably the best RB option available.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby sprtsfrk208 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:57 am

TrueDawg wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:32 am
sprtsfrk208 wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:37 am My thoughts exactly. I get he might be a little hyped, but he can definitely beat out Ware for the starting spot.
Maybe not week one but I think he can too. Perine was the back I would have picked over Hunt...Washington has nothing in front of him.
Washington doesn't do anything logical.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Xulu Bak » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:02 am

Had some interest, but nothing to get me to pass on my would be pick. Basically just waiting on Tom, since he expressed interest late last night. Not sure how schedule.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Xulu Bak » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:59 pm

He countered. I countered back. Pick or trade should be coming shortly.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Xulu Bak » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:15 pm

That pick was a coinflip. It was between Howard and Williams. The latter is arguably a better talent, at a position of greater need, but I think Howard has an incredibly high ceiling, with a lot less risk. On talent alone, they're 2a/2b in this class as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby TrueDawg » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:19 pm

Xulu Bak wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:15 pm That pick was a coinflip. It was between Howard and Williams. The latter is arguably a better talent, at a position of greater need, but I think Howard has an incredibly high ceiling, with a lot less risk. On talent alone, they're 2a/2b in this class as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, I'm surprised Williams fell that far. But his injury history is scary. He's dealing with a back injury right now.

Speaking of injury history...I'm not sure I'd have picked Ross in the first round.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Xulu Bak » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:20 pm

Ross was a consideration as well, but I think he's an even bigger risk than Williams, with a little less upside.

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Xulu Bak » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:23 pm

TrueDawg wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:19 pm
Xulu Bak wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:15 pm That pick was a coinflip. It was between Howard and Williams. The latter is arguably a better talent, at a position of greater need, but I think Howard has an incredibly high ceiling, with a lot less risk. On talent alone, they're 2a/2b in this class as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, I'm surprised Williams fell that far. But his injury history is scary. He's dealing with a back injury right now.

Speaking of injury history...I'm not sure I'd have picked Ross in the first round.
His injury history is a concern. Him sitting out for so long with this particular injury is much more concerning. To not even participate in non-contact drills due to a hernia, which is a dime-a-dozen injury in the NFL makes me wonder if there's something more there (ala Kevin White's "shin splint" that was a stress fracture). Also, highly talented WR prospects with the name "Mike Williams" don't exactly have the best track record! :P

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby Xulu Bak » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:27 pm

So...anyone need a TE? I seem to have a spare...or three...

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Re: 2017 Draft Discussion Thread

Postby TrueDawg » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:27 pm

Xulu Bak wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:23 pm His injury history is a concern. Him sitting out for so long with this particular injury is much more concerning. To not even participate in non-contact drills due to a hernia, which is a dime-a-dozen injury in the NFL makes me wonder if there's something more there (ala Kevin White's "shin splints" that was a stress fracture). Also, highly talented WR prospects with the name "Mike Williams" don't exactly have the best track record! :P
The Bengals OL is a big concern too. I think Dalton's gonna get killed this year. Ross has a small frame and previous injuries aside, I wonder how he'll hold up to the punishment of the NFL.

As for Mike Williams...yeah I traded up years ago to take that schlep the Bucs drafted. I thought I was getting a big time WR. :wall:


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