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Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby problemsolver » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:24 pm

16 team salary cap league. I need to start 2 S and only currently own Tony Jefferson, Derwin James, Ronnie Harrison.

Took over an orphan, got some rebuilding to do. My roster has holes all over, but the IDP portion of this team was a hot mess. We are doing our FA auction currently. I need a safety i can start on the cheap.

Here is a list of top available FA's (as sorted by own%)

Reggie Nelson
Darian Thompson
Miles Killebrew
Xavier Woods
Ricardo Allen
Ron Parker
George Iloka
Deshazor Everett
Adrian Phillips
Keith Tandy
Kenny Vaccaro





Anyone stand out in this group? Or are they all pretty much the same? And super top secret sleeper safeties out there i can check on?
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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby Sealion67 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:53 am

Vaccaro and Everett are both someone to consider from that list. Killebrew has been disappointing. Giants aren't happy with Darian Thompson and may lose the job opposite Collins. Phillps had a nice run playing S/LB hybrid for the Chargers, but Derwin James squelches his value.

You might also see if these guys are available...

DJ Swearinger- Always seems to be near the ball
Daniel Sorensen- S/LB Hybrid who plays close to line of scrimmage
Marcus Maye- Some say he outplayed Jamal Adams in their rookie campaigns.
Jabrill Peppers- Underwhelming rookie season, but will supposedly play closer to the LOS this year. Has added value as Punt Returner.
Tyvon Branch- He's old (31), but was having a remarkable season until injured in Week 10
Kurt Coleman- He's 30, but a savvy veteran now at the Saints who can score fantasy points in bundles
Quandre Diggs- Slot corner currently listed as a CB in MFL, he was a fantasy gem late last year filling in for the injured Tavon Wilson at S.
Rodney McLeod- Started off slow last season but put up solid numbers in the back half of the season as teams playing from behind were forced to pass.

Hope this helps some and good luck!

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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby ddog2303 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:06 am

From this list I’m taking Adrian Phillips. If he stays with a S designation he should put up decent point totals due to the snaps at LB.
8 team SUPERFLEX, PPR, .2 PPC, 1.5PPR for TEs, 5 point passing TDs, IDP
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, 1 SF, 1 K
3DL, 4 LB, 4 DB

QB- Rodgers, Wentz,
RB- DJ, Barkley, Kamara, Cook, Mixon, Jamaal Williams, Aaron Jones, Ekeler, Lindsay, Powell
WR- AB, OBJ, Nuk, Michael Thomas, Adams, Watkins, Josh Gordon, Dante Pettis, Doctson, Tyrell, Josh Reynolds
TE- Zach Ertz, Jordan Reed, Hunter Henry, Shaheen
DL- Watt, Donald, Campbell, Griffen, Graham, Irving
LB- Kuechly, Lee, Kwon, Martinez, Hicks, Eric Kendricks, Edmunds, Preston Brown, Hitchens
DB- Landon Collins, Keanu Neal, Poyer, Hyde, Quin, Cyprien

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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby problemsolver » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:58 am

Sealion67 wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:53 am
Vaccaro and Everett are both someone to consider from that list. Killebrew has been disappointing. Giants aren't happy with Darian Thompson and may lose the job opposite Collins. Phillps had a nice run playing S/LB hybrid for the Chargers, but Derwin James squelches his value.

You might also see if these guys are available...

DJ Swearinger- Always seems to be near the ball
Daniel Sorensen- S/LB Hybrid who plays close to line of scrimmage
Marcus Maye- Some say he outplayed Jamal Adams in their rookie campaigns.
Jabrill Peppers- Underwhelming rookie season, but will supposedly play closer to the LOS this year. Has added value as Punt Returner.
Tyvon Branch- He's old (31), but was having a remarkable season until injured in Week 10
Kurt Coleman- He's 30, but a savvy veteran now at the Saints who can score fantasy points in bundles
Quandre Diggs- Slot corner currently listed as a CB in MFL, he was a fantasy gem late last year filling in for the injured Tavon Wilson at S.
Rodney McLeod- Started off slow last season but put up solid numbers in the back half of the season as teams playing from behind were forced to pass.

Hope this helps some and good luck!

SeaLion
Thanks for all the work.....unfortunately all these guys are already rostered. Maybe i just need to wait until training camp battles play out and see who starting where.
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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby boobam13 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:54 pm

can you link you league page so we can take a gander?
12Team/PPR/1QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-1FLEX-1K-1DL-2LB-2DB-2DEF FLEX 2013 and 2017 Champion*
53 Man Rosters - Active (46) Practice Squad (7) IR (5 Max)
QB- TBrady, DWatson
RB- TGurley, LFournette, CIvory, TJYeldon, CGrant, MBrown, SRidley, RTurbin, CMicheal, TCannon, JMcNichols, TEdmunds, SVereen, KFarrow, TJLogan, JWilliams, AWadley, DHenderson, TWest, RThomas, JAdams, CWarrenIII
WR- ABrown, DHopkins, MEvans, ESanders, CKupp, SShepard, PRichardson, QEnunwa, DMoncrief, CConley, CRogers
TE- RGronk, TKelce, DGoedert, AGates, JHollister
K- MBryant
DL- CJones
LB- DDavis, MBarron, BMcKinney, SThompson, GHodges, GAvery, NVigil, JCarter, BCoyle
DB- KByard, SDavis, JTartt, RAllen, KNeal
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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby dlf_tomk » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:46 am

problemsolver wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:24 pm

Reggie Nelson
Darian Thompson
Miles Killebrew
Xavier Woods
Ricardo Allen
Ron Parker
George Iloka
Deshazor Everett
Adrian Phillips
Keith Tandy
Kenny Vaccaro
I'd be taking Phillips first. Derwin James will not take his job. James takes Jahleel Addae's job from 2017 with Addae supposedly playing deep [or on the bench].

Phillips played straight LB for the last 5 games of last year. He could easily not start this year but if he does he's a great own.

After him I don't really want any of those others I'm afraid. They're all part timers or in unoptimal spots.
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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby myndflyte » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:58 am

Is John Jefferson, Justin Simmons, or Jonathan Cyprian already rostered? They may be lower owned players that could put up big numbers this year.
12 team 0.5 pt PPR, 25 player rosters in season/40 player out, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Bradford, Lauletta (R)
RB: Gordon, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, Ekeler, Perine, Cunningham,Grant, Martin, Turbin, Adams (R)
WR: Cooks, Coleman, Doctson, Golladay, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Williams, Z. Jones, Roberts, Tate (R), Cain (R), N. Brown (TS), Hardy, Hansen (TS)
TE: Howard, Cook, Croom, Watson
2019 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

12 team 1 pt PPR SF startup; 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 SFlex, 2 Flex
QB: Prescott, Smith, Webb, Griffin III
RB: Elliott, Miller, Coleman, Collins, J. Williams, Powell, Gore, Davis, Ballage (R), J. Jackson (R)
WR: K. Allen, Smith-Schuster, M. Jones, Sanu, Crowder, R. Anderson, Enunwa, Mitchell, Carroo, S. Cobbs (R), Moore (R)
TE: Howard, Seferian-Jenkins, Butt
2019 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby Space Cowboy » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:50 pm

Kindred from CLE or MacDougal from SEA?

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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby problemsolver » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:14 am

Sorry i let this slip.....i got into a draft in a different league and put this on the back burner. Thanks to everyone who responded. I saw i had a trade offer this morning in this league and it kind of brought it back to the forefront for me.

I give LB Jadaveon Clowney
I get S Josh Jones

I dont know what to make of this. Clowney was LB26 in this league last year and would probably be my LB3 behind TSmith and Woodyard. I do have some depth at LB so this trade wouldnt cripple me, but im still not sure about it. The GB defensive backfield seems like its in a huge state of flux right now. With my luck the day after i make this trade they'll sign Kenny Vacarro and Eric Reid and Jones will be covering punts.
myndflyte wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:58 am
Is John Jefferson, Justin Simmons, or Jonathan Cyprian already rostered? They may be lower owned players that could put up big numbers this year.
Simmons and Cyprian are owned. I cant find John Jefferson in the MFL player list.
Space Cowboy wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:50 pm
Kindred from CLE or MacDougal from SEA?

Kindred is available, although he is listed at the third S behind Peppers and Randall everywhere i looked. MacDougal is not available.

dlf_tomk wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:46 am


I'd be taking Phillips first. Derwin James will not take his job. James takes Jahleel Addae's job from 2017 with Addae supposedly playing deep [or on the bench].
So it seems my best options in FA are:

1) Phillips
2) Kindred
3) Dart Throw
boobam13 wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:54 pm
can you link you league page so we can take a gander?

Certainly.

http://www53.myfantasyleague.com/2018/t ... ints&TEAM=*
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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:29 pm

Deshazor Everett
Kenny Vaccaro
Adrian Phillips
Eric Reid
Xavier Woods
Ricardo Allen
George Iloka

That would be my rough order.
T1
LUCK, Flacco, J Allen, Beathard
MIXON, AP, Collins, Ajayi, Chase E, R Smith, Blue
EVANS/HILL/DIGGS/KA/HILTON, Sammy, C Davis, A Miller, Tre'Quan, Pascal
GRONK, Vance, Herndon, Shaheen
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DL: CHANDLER/FLOWERS/SHORT, Golden, Addison, Okafor, Sheard, Larry O, Malik J
LB: KENDRICKS/WARNER/ZACH C, Schobert, Williamson, R Evans, Walker, KJW, Bynes, Kyzir, Young
DB: ADDAE/AMOS/SIMMONS, John J, Kazee, TJ Mac, Diggs

T2
JIMMY G, Rivers, Eli
GURLEY/DJ/MIXON, Guice, A Jones, Chase E, Darkwa
NUK/AJG/HILL/KA, Landry, Sammy, Hogan, J-Wash, J'Mon, JMatt, David Moore, J Wright
ENGRAM, Doyle, Vance, Higbee, Everett, Maxx, Herndon, Heuerman, Hollister
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DL: BUCKNER/BARNETT/GRIFFEN/HEYWARD, Golden, Short, Ogbah, Wolfe, Spence, Weatherly, Simon, Wilkerson, Horton
LB: KENDRICKS/BURFICT/WARNER/HITCHENS, Danny T, KJW, Ebukam, Walker, Vince W, M Lee
DB: GEATHERS/POYER/JOHN J, Diggs, Kazee, Maye, Tavon, Hairston, Fuller

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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby dawgs4life » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:49 pm

Vaccaro will sign, its just where? if he ends up in a good spot he is your best bet. I think Everett is going to be competing with Nicholson this year for playing time. And he wasn't very good to begin with imo. Woods is an unknown dart throw but might be useful. I agree with above Phillips will still play a lot of snaps but will be moved into different positions. Iloka is a last resort if you need to fill a spot. Never scores a ton but is always starting, so there is always a chance.
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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby dlf_tomk » Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:24 am

I think myndflyte was talking about John Johnson above. He's getting plenty of hype [but not someone I'm behind at all].

However - can anyone tell me why they think Kenny Vaccaro will get a job? I don't really get it. He's not a good player and it seems that NFL teams aren't really interested either.

I guess it's possible he gets some cash once the vet guaranteed date passes but that's unlikely to mean a regular, full-time job.

Anyway - you don't really need a 4th safety right now. You'd likely be churning him anyway. Phillips has the most upside. Instead of owning a weekly S4 like most of the guys here you're better off grabbing Kerwynn Williams or Antonio gates or Deatrich Wise. potential big hits are far more attractive than bad depth.
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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby myndflyte » Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:34 am

problemsolver wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:14 am
I cant find John Jefferson in the MFL player list.
Sorry, I meant John Johnson. My bad.
12 team 0.5 pt PPR, 25 player rosters in season/40 player out, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Bradford, Lauletta (R)
RB: Gordon, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, Ekeler, Perine, Cunningham,Grant, Martin, Turbin, Adams (R)
WR: Cooks, Coleman, Doctson, Golladay, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Williams, Z. Jones, Roberts, Tate (R), Cain (R), N. Brown (TS), Hardy, Hansen (TS)
TE: Howard, Cook, Croom, Watson
2019 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

12 team 1 pt PPR SF startup; 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 SFlex, 2 Flex
QB: Prescott, Smith, Webb, Griffin III
RB: Elliott, Miller, Coleman, Collins, J. Williams, Powell, Gore, Davis, Ballage (R), J. Jackson (R)
WR: K. Allen, Smith-Schuster, M. Jones, Sanu, Crowder, R. Anderson, Enunwa, Mitchell, Carroo, S. Cobbs (R), Moore (R)
TE: Howard, Seferian-Jenkins, Butt
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Re: Looking for a cheap startable safety

Postby SirJoseppi » Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:20 pm

Montae Nicholson

Maurice Alexander/Delano Hill (one of these two will likely get the starting SS spot if ET does wind up getting traded or holds out into the regular season).
12 team IDP league, 0.5 PPR, 1.6 per tackle, 4 per sack/INT:

QB: Big Ben, Alex Smith, Tyrod Taylor
RB: Guice (IR), Sony Michel, Drake, Aaron Jones (S), Marlon Mack, Chris Warren III (IR)
WR: Thielen, Fitz, Agholor, Crabtree, Shepard, Zay Jones, G. Allison, Tre'Quan Smith
TE: Rudolph, Jonnu Smith, Trey Burton, Chris Herndon

DT: David Irving, Kenny Clark
DE: Aaron Donald, Ngakoue, Golden
LB: Martinez, Van Noy, Bradham, Nick Vigil, BJ Goodson, Rashaan Evans, Fred Warner, Josh Bynes, Skai Moore
S: Eric Berry, Geathers, Josh Jones, J. Tartt, Montae Nicholson, DeShon Elliott (IR)
CB: Tre White, Akthello Witherspoon

TS: Sam Darnold, Ito Smith, Richie James, Justin Watson, Auden Tate


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