Need IDP help

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Opeth24
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Need IDP help

Postby Opeth24 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:13 pm

In a Dynasty IDP league and i can't get the hang of the IDP side. Wondering if someone could help me out. I've updated my signature to include my defensive players going into this off season, looking for advice on who I should cut, target in the draft, or try to find on the wire.

A little about the league:
Dynasty
Half point PPR, 1 Point for Tackles, half for assist, and 4 points for sacks
Roster size is 30 with 5 IR spots.
No kickers
Starter spots:
1QB
2WR
2RB
1TE
1Flex
2DE
2LB
2DB
1D Flex
12 Team/ Half PPR/IDP/30 Roster Spots/Dynasty

QB:R.Wilson, P.Mahomes, T.Bridgewater
RB: T.Montgomery, D. Cook , K. Dixon, L. Fournette, K. Drake, P. Barber, M. Breida, A. Ekeler
WR:D.Hopkins, J. Jones, K.Benjamin, J.Doctson,K.Golladay, K. Cole, G.Tate, J. Gordon, M. Goodwin,
TE:G.Olsen, J.Smith
LB:C.Mosley, V.Williams, C.Lawson, W.Woodyard
DB:J.Adams, D.mcourty, A.Amos
DL: C.Dunlap, M.Addison, A. Okafor

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Re: Need IDP help

Postby JetsFan86 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:02 pm

Most leagues hes gone but takk mckinnley is someone id add if possible or buy. Also matt judon at lb. Hes a machine and wouldn't be suprised to see 70+ total tackles and double digit sacks
12 team. 6pt td's. 1ppr- 2qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 2 flex

Qb-Ryan,Tannehill, Dalton,Bortles
Rb-Freeman,Mccoy,Ivory,Ingram, Cook, McGuire,Clement
Wr-Hopkins,Benjamin,Landry,Alshon,Decker,Tate, Britt,Peake , Krishawn Hogan
Te-Reed,Graham, Henry, Cfed, njoku
Taxi-Boykin, dj foster, peake, b. Miller, Ford
Picks- 3,4,5

Team 2- 32 team Super flex. 1-2qb,1-5wr, 1-5rb, 1-5te. 1ppr, 4pt passing td's, 6pt rushing/reciving td's, start 8 total [double player pool]

Qb-Cousins,bradford, Osweiler,kessler,gabbert
Rb- Zeke, C-Mike, J-stew, Mcguire, Drake
Wr- Evans, Benji, Jmatt, Crowder, Mike Thomas [saints], Josh Reynolds, Peake, demarcus robinson
Te- Howard, Bennett, Leggett, Asj
Taxi- Ford, Gentry
2018 picks: 1.11/5.15

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Re: Need IDP help

Postby JetsFan86 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:03 pm

Opeth24 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:13 pm
In a Dynasty IDP league and i can't get the hang of the IDP side. Wondering if someone could help me out. I've updated my signature to include my defensive players going into this off season, looking for advice on who I should cut, target in the draft, or try to find on the wire.

A little about the league:
Dynasty
Half point PPR, 1 Point for Tackles, half for assist, and 4 points for sacks
Roster size is 30 with 5 IR spots.
No kickers
Starter spots:
1QB
2WR
2RB
1TE
1Flex
2DE
2LB
2DB
1D Flex
I forgot to say you have lawson at lb who i like but i think he may get changed to de?
12 team. 6pt td's. 1ppr- 2qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 2 flex

Qb-Ryan,Tannehill, Dalton,Bortles
Rb-Freeman,Mccoy,Ivory,Ingram, Cook, McGuire,Clement
Wr-Hopkins,Benjamin,Landry,Alshon,Decker,Tate, Britt,Peake , Krishawn Hogan
Te-Reed,Graham, Henry, Cfed, njoku
Taxi-Boykin, dj foster, peake, b. Miller, Ford
Picks- 3,4,5

Team 2- 32 team Super flex. 1-2qb,1-5wr, 1-5rb, 1-5te. 1ppr, 4pt passing td's, 6pt rushing/reciving td's, start 8 total [double player pool]

Qb-Cousins,bradford, Osweiler,kessler,gabbert
Rb- Zeke, C-Mike, J-stew, Mcguire, Drake
Wr- Evans, Benji, Jmatt, Crowder, Mike Thomas [saints], Josh Reynolds, Peake, demarcus robinson
Te- Howard, Bennett, Leggett, Asj
Taxi- Ford, Gentry
2018 picks: 1.11/5.15

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Re: Need IDP help

Postby StableOfRBs » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:39 am

Opeth24 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:13 pm
In a Dynasty IDP league and i can't get the hang of the IDP side. Wondering if someone could help me out. I've updated my signature to include my defensive players going into this off season, looking for advice on who I should cut, target in the draft, or try to find on the wire.

A little about the league:
Dynasty
Half point PPR, 1 Point for Tackles, half for assist, and 4 points for sacks
Roster size is 30 with 5 IR spots.
No kickers
Starter spots:
1QB
2WR
2RB
1TE
1Flex
2DE
2LB
2DB
1D Flex
IDP can get a little weird because the scoring is so variable from league to league and designations change depending on what site you use. I assume by your starting requirements that Safeties and CBs are lumped in with the DB label and DTs and DEs are both listed under DE. The IDP 101 post in this subforum is definitely a solid place to get a general idea.

Personally I draft based on scarcity when it comes to IDP, from what I've gathered across a few IDP leagues I'm in the scarcity generally works out like: DT > DE > LB > S > CB. Just like the offensive side there are tiers to every position but where the scarcity comes in is the drop off between each tier at each position. For example with DTs there are 4-5 tier 1 "elite" guys then 6-8 tier 1.5 "high end" guys and after that maybe 15-16 tier 2 "solid" guys and then after that it's more or less a crap shoot as to whether you can find a guy who will put up decent production for you. On the flip side you have CBs where there are 7-8 tier 1 "elite" guys, 20-21 tier 1.5 "high end" guys, and 38-39 tier 2 "solid" guys (Note I'm using a scoring system for a league I'm currently in where tier 1 = 15+ pts/week, tier 1.5 = 13-15 pts/week, and tier 2 = 10-13 pts/week). Obviously this doesn't mean you ignore a top 5 safety to take a top 20 DT just because there's more depth at the safety position but it means you can afford to wait longer to take guys at deeper positions.

Based on your league size, roster size, starting requirements, and the players you have listed in your sig I'm gonna assume there's a fair amount of depth available on your waiver wire. Looking at your team it seems like you've got some solid IDP guys, although injuries derailed you a bit this year, and maybe the issue is not knowing when to start which guys? Your DEs and DBs seem fine to me, for LB Lawson is iffy and Woodyard just had a massive upswing in production and is gonna be 32 next season so maybe look for some youth. Jarrad Davis, Deone Bucannon, and Jon Bostic are all pretty good younger players and it wouldn't surprise me if at least one of them was available on the WW.

PS when I'm evaluating IDPs I like to look for younger guys that have a high amount of real life draft capital spent on them (NFL rounds 3 or higher) since teams are more likely to both give them a longer leash if they don't crush right out of the gate and give them more snaps/playing time which is huge for production. Not only that but when a team spends a high pick on a defensive player in today's league, where QBs/WRs/OL take up a lot of draft capital, I think it really speaks to their talent level. Obviously there are guys like Laron Landry who are complete busts but as a general rule of thumb I think it works out pretty well.
12 Team 1QB/2RB/2WR/1FLEX/1TE/1DST, TE premium

QBs: Andrew Luck, Tyrod Taylor
RBs: David Johnson, Melvin Gordon, Ty Montgomery, Doug Martin, Rob Kelley, De'Angelo Henderson, Chris Carson, James Conner, Austin Ekeler, Rod Smith
WRs: Amari Cooper, OBJ, Alshon Jeffery, Demaryius Thomas, Josh Doctson, Jeremy Maclin, Cooper Kupp
TEs: Jordan Reed, Jack Doyle, David Njoku, Jonnu Smith, Ricky Seals-Jones
DSTs: Bengals

Greek Mythology League - Heracles - 2QB/3RB/4WR/2TE/2Flex/2DT/2DE/4LB/2CB/2S/1DFlex:
http://www54.myfantasyleague.com/2018/o ... =07&F=0007

Marvel vs. DC League - Lords of Order - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/1SFlex/2Flex/1DT/2DE/3LB/1CB/2S/1DFlex:
http://www54.myfantasyleague.com/2018/o ... =07&F=0008

Legend of the Ring Co-owned League - The Two-Man Power Trip - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/1SFlex/2Flex/1DT/2DE/3LB/1CB/2S/1DFlex:
http://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2018/o ... =07&F=0009

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Re: Need IDP help

Postby Opeth24 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:51 am

JetsFan86 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:03 pm
Opeth24 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:13 pm
In a Dynasty IDP league and i can't get the hang of the IDP side. Wondering if someone could help me out. I've updated my signature to include my defensive players going into this off season, looking for advice on who I should cut, target in the draft, or try to find on the wire.

A little about the league:
Dynasty
Half point PPR, 1 Point for Tackles, half for assist, and 4 points for sacks
Roster size is 30 with 5 IR spots.
No kickers
Starter spots:
1QB
2WR
2RB
1TE
1Flex
2DE
2LB
2DB
1D Flex
I forgot to say you have lawson at lb who i like but i think he may get changed to de?
Yeah in my league they have him as a LB/DE. Hes more of a wait and see. He needs more playing time.
12 Team/ Half PPR/IDP/30 Roster Spots/Dynasty

QB:R.Wilson, P.Mahomes, T.Bridgewater
RB: T.Montgomery, D. Cook , K. Dixon, L. Fournette, K. Drake, P. Barber, M. Breida, A. Ekeler
WR:D.Hopkins, J. Jones, K.Benjamin, J.Doctson,K.Golladay, K. Cole, G.Tate, J. Gordon, M. Goodwin,
TE:G.Olsen, J.Smith
LB:C.Mosley, V.Williams, C.Lawson, W.Woodyard
DB:J.Adams, D.mcourty, A.Amos
DL: C.Dunlap, M.Addison, A. Okafor

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Re: Need IDP help

Postby Opeth24 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:56 am

StableOfRBs wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:39 am
Opeth24 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:13 pm
In a Dynasty IDP league and i can't get the hang of the IDP side. Wondering if someone could help me out. I've updated my signature to include my defensive players going into this off season, looking for advice on who I should cut, target in the draft, or try to find on the wire.

A little about the league:
Dynasty
Half point PPR, 1 Point for Tackles, half for assist, and 4 points for sacks
Roster size is 30 with 5 IR spots.
No kickers
Starter spots:
1QB
2WR
2RB
1TE
1Flex
2DE
2LB
2DB
1D Flex
IDP can get a little weird because the scoring is so variable from league to league and designations change depending on what site you use. I assume by your starting requirements that Safeties and CBs are lumped in with the DB label and DTs and DEs are both listed under DE. The IDP 101 post in this subforum is definitely a solid place to get a general idea.

Personally I draft based on scarcity when it comes to IDP, from what I've gathered across a few IDP leagues I'm in the scarcity generally works out like: DT > DE > LB > S > CB. Just like the offensive side there are tiers to every position but where the scarcity comes in is the drop off between each tier at each position. For example with DTs there are 4-5 tier 1 "elite" guys then 6-8 tier 1.5 "high end" guys and after that maybe 15-16 tier 2 "solid" guys and then after that it's more or less a crap shoot as to whether you can find a guy who will put up decent production for you. On the flip side you have CBs where there are 7-8 tier 1 "elite" guys, 20-21 tier 1.5 "high end" guys, and 38-39 tier 2 "solid" guys (Note I'm using a scoring system for a league I'm currently in where tier 1 = 15+ pts/week, tier 1.5 = 13-15 pts/week, and tier 2 = 10-13 pts/week). Obviously this doesn't mean you ignore a top 5 safety to take a top 20 DT just because there's more depth at the safety position but it means you can afford to wait longer to take guys at deeper positions.

Based on your league size, roster size, starting requirements, and the players you have listed in your sig I'm gonna assume there's a fair amount of depth available on your waiver wire. Looking at your team it seems like you've got some solid IDP guys, although injuries derailed you a bit this year, and maybe the issue is not knowing when to start which guys? Your DEs and DBs seem fine to me, for LB Lawson is iffy and Woodyard just had a massive upswing in production and is gonna be 32 next season so maybe look for some youth. Jarrad Davis, Deone Bucannon, and Jon Bostic are all pretty good younger players and it wouldn't surprise me if at least one of them was available on the WW.

PS when I'm evaluating IDPs I like to look for younger guys that have a high amount of real life draft capital spent on them (NFL rounds 3 or higher) since teams are more likely to both give them a longer leash if they don't crush right out of the gate and give them more snaps/playing time which is huge for production. Not only that but when a team spends a high pick on a defensive player in today's league, where QBs/WRs/OL take up a lot of draft capital, I think it really speaks to their talent level. Obviously there are guys like Laron Landry who are complete busts but as a general rule of thumb I think it works out pretty well.
You're correct in the lumping of IDP players. Thanks for the input. I'll check the wire and see what's available. Thanks.
12 Team/ Half PPR/IDP/30 Roster Spots/Dynasty

QB:R.Wilson, P.Mahomes, T.Bridgewater
RB: T.Montgomery, D. Cook , K. Dixon, L. Fournette, K. Drake, P. Barber, M. Breida, A. Ekeler
WR:D.Hopkins, J. Jones, K.Benjamin, J.Doctson,K.Golladay, K. Cole, G.Tate, J. Gordon, M. Goodwin,
TE:G.Olsen, J.Smith
LB:C.Mosley, V.Williams, C.Lawson, W.Woodyard
DB:J.Adams, D.mcourty, A.Amos
DL: C.Dunlap, M.Addison, A. Okafor

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Re: Need IDP help

Postby JetsFan86 » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:07 am

Opeth24 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:51 am
JetsFan86 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:03 pm
Opeth24 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:13 pm
In a Dynasty IDP league and i can't get the hang of the IDP side. Wondering if someone could help me out. I've updated my signature to include my defensive players going into this off season, looking for advice on who I should cut, target in the draft, or try to find on the wire.

A little about the league:
Dynasty
Half point PPR, 1 Point for Tackles, half for assist, and 4 points for sacks
Roster size is 30 with 5 IR spots.
No kickers
Starter spots:
1QB
2WR
2RB
1TE
1Flex
2DE
2LB
2DB
1D Flex
I forgot to say you have lawson at lb who i like but i think he may get changed to de?
Yeah in my league they have him as a LB/DE. Hes more of a wait and see. He needs more playing time.
Didnt he lead rookies in sacks ? Believe he had like 8 sacks. Either way hes a guy id look at
12 team. 6pt td's. 1ppr- 2qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 2 flex

Qb-Ryan,Tannehill, Dalton,Bortles
Rb-Freeman,Mccoy,Ivory,Ingram, Cook, McGuire,Clement
Wr-Hopkins,Benjamin,Landry,Alshon,Decker,Tate, Britt,Peake , Krishawn Hogan
Te-Reed,Graham, Henry, Cfed, njoku
Taxi-Boykin, dj foster, peake, b. Miller, Ford
Picks- 3,4,5

Team 2- 32 team Super flex. 1-2qb,1-5wr, 1-5rb, 1-5te. 1ppr, 4pt passing td's, 6pt rushing/reciving td's, start 8 total [double player pool]

Qb-Cousins,bradford, Osweiler,kessler,gabbert
Rb- Zeke, C-Mike, J-stew, Mcguire, Drake
Wr- Evans, Benji, Jmatt, Crowder, Mike Thomas [saints], Josh Reynolds, Peake, demarcus robinson
Te- Howard, Bennett, Leggett, Asj
Taxi- Ford, Gentry
2018 picks: 1.11/5.15

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Re: Need IDP help

Postby rangerdave » Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:38 am

In your setup, I might just keep Mosley, Adams, and Dunlap. There should be enough depth in the draft and on the wire that is comparable to the other IDP on your roster.
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