Cory James vs Nick Vigil

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Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Cory James
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Nick Vigil
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Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Postby Team Tacos » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:29 pm

Which one do you prefer and why? I have to cut one of them tomorrow due to roster maximums and am having a hard time deciding. Neither is needed to start at the moment but could be. Other LBs are Jatavis Brown, Reuben Foster, Darron Lee, and Jaylon Smith, start 3 LBs.

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Re: Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:00 pm

Vigil the better prospect, James far less competition. Both are currently set to be starters... you don't have ANYONE else to cut??
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
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BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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Re: Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Postby saw061600 » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:02 pm

Send out trade offers to everyone. Maybe you get lucky.
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Re: Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Postby Team Tacos » Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:31 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:00 pm Vigil the better prospect, James far less competition. Both are currently set to be starters... you don't have ANYONE else to cut??

Sadly no, have to cut down to five LBs. Sending out trade offers is probably my best bet.

These are the things I've been considering: Cory James posted better pre-draft workout numbers (except for the 3-cone), had the highest PFF grade this preseason of any Raider at 84.2 (the 3rd highest grade of any NFL LB), and will be playing WLB on the field for for 3 downs. Nick Vigil had a great preseason and is ticketed for a 3 down role at SLB, but Carl Lawson will get snaps at SLB too and there's a lot of competition in Cincy for tackles. So I'm leaning James at the moment.

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Re: Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Postby bruiser » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:47 am

Vigil gets my vote, but it's very close. James has already been an injured LB. Vigil does not profile as a SAM backer and is a sneaky candidate to slide in and keep the WLB spot even after Burfict returns. Burfict may get the veteran treatment and slide into MIKE role with more responsibility. All my speculation and fitting the pieces together.

James only has injury concern, so I'd probably cut Darron Lee. No question.
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Re: Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Postby Team Tacos » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:22 am

Thanks Bruiser, interesting take, Vigil could be worth a gamble. However, I'm surprised you suggested cutting Darron Lee and not Jaylon Smith, lol.

I'm reading that Cory James is not great in coverage, and Nick Vigil seems to be the opposite. Anyone heard that?

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Re: Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Postby bruiser » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:44 pm

Team Tacos wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:22 am Thanks Bruiser, interesting take, Vigil could be worth a gamble. However, I'm surprised you suggested cutting Darron Lee and not Jaylon Smith, lol.

I'm reading that Cory James is not great in coverage, and Nick Vigil seems to be the opposite. Anyone heard that?
I haven't heard much about James' condition, but I've heard enough about Darron Lee not being what we hoped he'd be. Jaylon Smith is a gamble, yes. I'm holding him, but would accept a 2nd rounder to trade him off and not have to worry about the knee.
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Re: Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:50 am

Sad to say, Vigil looked like a mess last night. Multiple missed tackles where his angle was way off, seemed extremely passive, just didn't look like a starting linebacker in this League... I hope I'm wrong!
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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Re: Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Postby The Red Rooster » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:40 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:50 am Sad to say, Vigil looked like a mess last night. Multiple missed tackles where his angle was way off, seemed extremely passive, just didn't look like a starting linebacker in this League... I hope I'm wrong!
How did he look in week 1? Im eyeing him a bit and I am very curious.

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Re: Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:51 pm

The Red Rooster wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:40 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:50 am Sad to say, Vigil looked like a mess last night. Multiple missed tackles where his angle was way off, seemed extremely passive, just didn't look like a starting linebacker in this League... I hope I'm wrong!
How did he look in week 1? Im eyeing him a bit and I am very curious.
Tentative but not as sloppy. He looked BAD last night
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
/
TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Postby Slevin Kelevra » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:13 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:51 pm
The Red Rooster wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:40 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:50 am Sad to say, Vigil looked like a mess last night. Multiple missed tackles where his angle was way off, seemed extremely passive, just didn't look like a starting linebacker in this League... I hope I'm wrong!
How did he look in week 1? Im eyeing him a bit and I am very curious.
Tentative but not as sloppy. He looked BAD last night
44.4 on PFF after 2 weeks

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Re: Cory James vs Nick Vigil

Postby The Red Rooster » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:39 am

Slevin Kelevra wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:13 am
lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:51 pm
The Red Rooster wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:40 pm

How did he look in week 1? Im eyeing him a bit and I am very curious.
Tentative but not as sloppy. He looked BAD last night
44.4 on PFF after 2 weeks
That seems, poor to quite poor.


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