Rookie Draft Complete Need to Cut Players

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Re: Rookie Draft Complete Need to Cut Players

Postby Oslo Oildrillers » Tue May 23, 2017 4:05 pm

ThatGuyBrian wrote: Tue May 23, 2017 8:57 am
Oslo Oildrillers wrote: Mon May 22, 2017 3:13 pm Given that it's s-flex, start 2RB, 2-3 LB and 1-2 S, with a roster of 48...I would cut all CBs (except Mathieu if he's a CB), roster max 3-4 safeties, and pick up QB, RB and ILB fliers. There's just not much potential reward by stashing that many safeties and those CBs are totally replaceable through waivers in August.
Did I make a mistake by selecting the IDP players in the draft? I still think that the DT position is in horrible shape but the DE position now at least has some pretty solid talent. Plus I am pretty happy with Jarrad Daivs and Hasson Reddick at the LB position. How would you rate my draft??

Devy players
DeShaun Watson (attained prior to the draft)
Nick Chubb (2016 devy player can be sent to taxi squad)

Rookie Draft
1.01 Joe Mixon RB
1.03 OJ Howard TE
1.08 Evan Engram TE
1.09 Zay Jones WR
2.11 Chris Godwin WR
2.12 Jarrad Davis LB
3.01 Jamal Adams S
3.04 Derek Bennent DE
3.05 Josh Reynolds WR
3.06 Hasson Reddick LB
3.07 Jonathan Allen DE
3.08 Solomon Thomas DE
3.10 Wayne Gallman RB
3.11 Taco Charlton DE
It depends on your scoring setup. If the scoring is fairly standard I think it's fine. If it's "balanced" I think it's good value. It can seem a bit early for some of the DEs, but I can understand why you'd want to rebuild that position group. And since it's devy s-flex all those picks would have been at least half a round later if this was non-devy and non-superflex so...

I tend to go IDP quite often in the third and later. Many owners like to stay away from IDPs and take lottery ticket late round RBs and WRs instead, which gives a higher potential upside but a much smaller chance of hitting, while I like to build a deep and strong IDP group through the draft. That being said forcing need is never a great idea, and especially not at IDP where it's easier to find startable players for free on waivers. Use need as tie-breakers, but it's important to stay disciplined and take advantage of value that drops to you.

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Re: Rookie Draft Complete Need to Cut Players

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Tue May 23, 2017 6:32 pm

Thanks for the help.
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: Rookie Draft Complete Need to Cut Players

Postby Coogan Football » Tue May 23, 2017 10:39 pm

ThatGuyBrian wrote: Tue May 23, 2017 6:32 pm Thanks for the help.
So what'd you end up doing?
12 team 6pts all TDs/.5ppr/SFlex/ balanced IDP, scoring est. 2008
Start QB,SF,2RB,3WR,TE,2Flex,3DL,3LB,3DB,2DFlex
3x Champion 2015, 2016, 2017
QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
DB: H.Smith, Vaccaro, B.Jones, Neal, Adoree, K.Joseph, Geathers, M.Maye, J.Jones, D Thompson

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Re: Rookie Draft Complete Need to Cut Players

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Wed May 24, 2017 4:17 am

Coogan Football wrote: Tue May 23, 2017 10:39 pm
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Tue May 23, 2017 6:32 pm Thanks for the help.
So what'd you end up doing?
Well i have a little time before I have to cut my roster so I am taking all the advice and processing it. Also I sent some of the rookies to my taxi squad to make room for some rookie fliers, just to see what happens with them. One trade was completed; Marshawn Lynch for a 2018 1st round pick. Still trying to get value out of some of the players that other posters told me to waive.
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: Rookie Draft Complete Need to Cut Players

Postby Defender » Fri May 26, 2017 5:30 am

Oslo Oildrillers wrote: Mon May 22, 2017 3:13 pm Given that it's s-flex, start 2RB, 2-3 LB and 1-2 S, with a roster of 48...I would cut all CBs (except Mathieu if he's a CB), roster max 3-4 safeties, and pick up QB, RB and ILB fliers. There's just not much potential reward by stashing that many safeties and those CBs are totally replaceable through waivers in August.
x10
The standard is the standard.

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Re: Rookie Draft Complete Need to Cut Players

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Fri May 26, 2017 8:20 am

Defender wrote: Fri May 26, 2017 5:30 am
Oslo Oildrillers wrote: Mon May 22, 2017 3:13 pm Given that it's s-flex, start 2RB, 2-3 LB and 1-2 S, with a roster of 48...I would cut all CBs (except Mathieu if he's a CB), roster max 3-4 safeties, and pick up QB, RB and ILB fliers. There's just not much potential reward by stashing that many safeties and those CBs are totally replaceable through waivers in August.
x10
So I made the cuts as suggested. This is currently what I have rostered at the CB and S spot:
CB
Darrelle Revis
Richard Sherman

S
Tyrann Mathieu
Eric Reid
Jamal Adams
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: Rookie Draft Complete Need to Cut Players

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri May 26, 2017 10:16 am

ThatGuyBrian wrote: Fri May 26, 2017 8:20 am
Defender wrote: Fri May 26, 2017 5:30 am
Oslo Oildrillers wrote: Mon May 22, 2017 3:13 pm Given that it's s-flex, start 2RB, 2-3 LB and 1-2 S, with a roster of 48...I would cut all CBs (except Mathieu if he's a CB), roster max 3-4 safeties, and pick up QB, RB and ILB fliers. There's just not much potential reward by stashing that many safeties and those CBs are totally replaceable through waivers in August.
x10
So I made the cuts as suggested. This is currently what I have rostered at the CB and S spot:
CB
Darrelle Revis
Richard Sherman

S
Tyrann Mathieu
Eric Reid
Jamal Adams
Why are you rostering Revis?
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
/
TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
/
TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
/
TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
/
TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
/
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA

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Re: Rookie Draft Complete Need to Cut Players

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri May 26, 2017 11:44 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri May 26, 2017 10:16 am
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Fri May 26, 2017 8:20 am
Defender wrote: Fri May 26, 2017 5:30 am

x10
So I made the cuts as suggested. This is currently what I have rostered at the CB and S spot:
CB
Darrelle Revis
Richard Sherman

S
Tyrann Mathieu
Eric Reid
Jamal Adams
Why are you rostering Revis?
x2 he's an FA and most likely done


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