Kahlil Mack

[Thedude30]

Hey all you IDP pros, maybe I should post this on the commish board, but you all may have some insight as well. I have a conundrum in a current startup dynasty draft. An owner selected Kahlil Mack a week ago who was at the time listed as a DE, but he is now being listed on rotoworld (and MFL) as a LB. The owner wants him to be moved back to DE since that is how he drafted him, is Oakland moving to a 3-4 or is his actual position fairly nebulous as an edge rusher? Any advice would be great, thanks.

[UnsafeAtAnySpd]

Gotta go with what MFL lists him as for consistency imo.

[lukkynumber13]

Anyone playing IDP Dynasty needs to understand positional movement. Khalil Mack has constantly been a hot topic over the past 2 years, regarding his designation.

It's a tough learning experience, but one that probably could've been avoided. A fair amount of research would've given this owner the knowledge that Mack will probably be moved to LB.

Would this owner be sad if he drafted Mack last year, as a LB, and then he got to use him as a DE all year?

Not to mention, MFL updates periodically and then lock positions in a few months. Who knows what will be the final designation.

[Coogan Football]

MFL let's you "edit" positions for players.


In my league if an owner can prove (different football websites with depth charts, actual game film examples) that a defensive player lines up or plays in a different position around 50% of the time then I will edit that player and change them to be listed as combo of DE/LB or CB/S.

It's not exactly perfect, but it works for us.

[lukkynumber13]

MFL let's you "edit" positions for players.


In my league if an owner can prove (different football websites with depth charts, actual game film examples) that a defensive player lines up or plays in a different position around 50% of the time then I will edit that player and change them to be listed as combo of DE/LB or CB/S.

It's not exactly perfect, but it works for us.

If every owner in a league is on board with that, then great, but man that's a slippery slope.

I'm not attacking what you personally do, it clearly works in your case. But introducing that while a league is already underway? Yikes.

[Thedude30]

Anyone playing IDP Dynasty needs to understand positional movement. Khalil Mack has constantly been a hot topic over the past 2 years, regarding his designation.

It's a tough learning experience, but one that probably could've been avoided. A fair amount of research would've given this owner the knowledge that Mack will probably be moved to LB.

Would this owner be sad if he drafted Mack last year, as a LB, and then he got to use him as a DE all year?

Not to mention, MFL updates periodically and then lock positions in a few months. Who knows what will be the final designation.

This is a very good point, thanks. About half the league is new to the IDP scene so there will be a bit of a learning curve. He's still a great player either way.

[pierson242]

He should be what MFL list him. Anyone with any IDP knowledge knew this was coming! As said above if they moved him from LB to DE no way he complains. It was obvious he would be moved, he stays LB.

[Coogan Football]

MFL let's you "edit" positions for players.


In my league if an owner can prove (different football websites with depth charts, actual game film examples) that a defensive player lines up or plays in a different position around 50% of the time then I will edit that player and change them to be listed as combo of DE/LB or CB/S.

It's not exactly perfect, but it works for us.

If every owner in a league is on board with that, then great, but man that's a slippery slope.

I'm not attacking what you personally do, it clearly works in your case. But introducing that while a league is already underway? Yikes.

Oh I definitely agree. When we first moved to IDP this issue came up and we kind of decided together that's how we would do it since so many different websites can be different. There's probably 5 defensive players that are rostered in our league right now that have dual designations

[bruiser]

MFL let's you "edit" positions for players.


In my league if an owner can prove (different football websites with depth charts, actual game film examples) that a defensive player lines up or plays in a different position around 50% of the time then I will edit that player and change them to be listed as combo of DE/LB or CB/S.

It's not exactly perfect, but it works for us.

This worked for us for our inaugural season. Then, it didn't. Can't really make a clearer point: player position designations need to be arbitrary (software). No commish should ever want that hassle nor scrutiny of deciding who gets eligibility and who doesn't.

[NY CAT]

MFL shod have the final say.

He is DE now therefore, unfortunately his value has taken a severe hit.

[saw061600]

I think it's best to stick with wherever the player is designated by league site. I certainly wan't happy when Bucannon was moved to LB but that's the risk of IDP.

[GridironGuerilla]

I agree that MFL designation is the be all end all. That's the risk you take with these types of players. Commissioning is a nightmare enough without adding all the subjective analysis to determine a players position.

[bot]

Bottom line.....he should have researched more. That's IDP for you. Live and learn. I would direct him here if he complains once you make your decision so he can see that you are not simply picking on him in any way.

[FiremanEd]

I'm of the opinion that it is a 'tough luck' situation for the owner. Such is the offseason with IDP. The info on such a potential change was out there as well. You got to let it ride and leave it as MFL dictates the position or you open a can of worms.

I did a startup years ago and but a few days after day 1 (of 4) live auction events Aaron Hernandez went to jail...that's the breaks. Sure it isn't an IDP position change, but this is how dynasty works. Tough breaks come along and you deal with it.

[JJDubya]

I have some sympathy, especially in a new format. The pick can't be undone, but if I was commish I would suggest letting the team website dictate. If they say he's a DE, then he's a DE. Kind of lame imo that MFL bases these things solely off of what one website says. The whole hand in the dirt or not thing is lame. No real fix, but path of least resistance is follow the MFL model. You're gonna have a bitter owner on your hands, that's for sure.