Timmy Jernigan to Philly... DT or DE?

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Timmy Jernigan to Philly... DT or DE?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:31 pm

Tim Jernigan just got traded to Eagles, will be start over Curry as a 4-3 DE? Or will he be a DT, filling in for Bennie Logan?
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
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BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
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KELCE, Schultz
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Re: Timmy Jernigan to Philly... DT or DE?

Postby Team Tacos » Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:43 pm

Nah DT I think, Eagles will have a similar DE rotation with Long taking Barwin's place.
WR: OBJ, Dez, AJG, K. Allen, Crowder, K. White;
RB: Gurley, Montgomery, Lacy; QB: Wilson, Goff; TE: Eifert;
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LB: Telvin, Kwon, Collins, Jatavis, D. Lee; DEF: KC;
DB: Burnett, C-Dix, S. Davis; K:

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Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 RB/WR/TE, 2 WR, 1 WR/TE, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF, 4 LB, 3 DL, 4 DB
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Re: Timmy Jernigan to Philly... DT or DE?

Postby icemic » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:38 pm

This is great news for Jernigan. Everything I'm reading is saying that he will start at DT. If that's the case, he is easily a DT1 with upside.
16 Team Dynasty Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1K, 2DT, 2DE, 3LB, 2CB, 2S .5 ppr
QB - Lawrence, Tua
RB - Henderson, Javonte Williams, Lindsay, Stevenson, Jaret Patterson
WR - McLaurin, Corey Davis, Michael Thomas, Terrace Marshall, Christian Kirk, Marquez Callaway, Quez Watkins, Tyrell Williams, Quintez Cephus, Mike Strachan
TE - Logan Thomas, OJ Howard, Granson, Tremble
DT - Oliver, Kinlaw
DE - Myles Garrett, JJ Watt, Jordan, Hendrickson, Paye
LB - Kendricks, Mosley, Simmons, Parsons, Holcomb, Okereke, Barnes, Barton, Mykal Walker
CB - Carlton Davis, Kenny Moore, Sneed
S - Poyer, Khari Willis, Dugger, Peppers

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Re: Timmy Jernigan to Philly... DT or DE?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:05 pm

icemic wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:38 pm This is great news for Jernigan. Everything I'm reading is saying that he will start at DT. If that's the case, he is easily a DT1 with upside.
I suppose he would probably start at DT over Beau Allen, but I can't see him being a DT1 WITH upside. Being a top 12 DT in & of itself is probably his best possible ceiling. I can easily think of 15 or more DTs I'd take over him.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Timmy Jernigan to Philly... DT or DE?

Postby icemic » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:24 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:05 pm
icemic wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:38 pm This is great news for Jernigan. Everything I'm reading is saying that he will start at DT. If that's the case, he is easily a DT1 with upside.
I suppose he would probably start at DT over Beau Allen, but I can't see him being a DT1 WITH upside. Being a top 12 DT in & of itself is probably his best possible ceiling. I can easily think of 15 or more DTs I'd take over him.
I'll admit my view is optimistic. I've loved Jernigan since he was drafted. I believe scheme limited him in Baltimore. In Philly, Cox and the others will receive all the attention leaving Jernigan to feast. He's already a top level run defender and he has also shown the ability to rush the passer as well. I believe his ceiling is top 5.
16 Team Dynasty Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1K, 2DT, 2DE, 3LB, 2CB, 2S .5 ppr
QB - Lawrence, Tua
RB - Henderson, Javonte Williams, Lindsay, Stevenson, Jaret Patterson
WR - McLaurin, Corey Davis, Michael Thomas, Terrace Marshall, Christian Kirk, Marquez Callaway, Quez Watkins, Tyrell Williams, Quintez Cephus, Mike Strachan
TE - Logan Thomas, OJ Howard, Granson, Tremble
DT - Oliver, Kinlaw
DE - Myles Garrett, JJ Watt, Jordan, Hendrickson, Paye
LB - Kendricks, Mosley, Simmons, Parsons, Holcomb, Okereke, Barnes, Barton, Mykal Walker
CB - Carlton Davis, Kenny Moore, Sneed
S - Poyer, Khari Willis, Dugger, Peppers

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Re: Timmy Jernigan to Philly... DT or DE?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:37 pm

icemic wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:24 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 4:05 pm
icemic wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:38 pm This is great news for Jernigan. Everything I'm reading is saying that he will start at DT. If that's the case, he is easily a DT1 with upside.
I suppose he would probably start at DT over Beau Allen, but I can't see him being a DT1 WITH upside. Being a top 12 DT in & of itself is probably his best possible ceiling. I can easily think of 15 or more DTs I'd take over him.
I'll admit my view is optimistic. I've loved Jernigan since he was drafted. I believe scheme limited him in Baltimore. In Philly, Cox and the others will receive all the attention leaving Jernigan to feast. He's already a top level run defender and he has also shown the ability to rush the passer as well. I believe his ceiling is top 5.
Something like a 25-20-7 line is feasible I suppose. Absolute ceiling of course
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
/
TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
/
TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
/
TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
/
TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Timmy Jernigan to Philly... DT or DE?

Postby Eagles4life » Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:55 pm

I'm cautiously optimistic by the move today... using PFF as a filter he graded out well overall and pretty good vs the run. I would temper expectations as Schwartz seemed to use the DT opposite Cox equally. Both Allen (413) and Logan (467) logged similar snap counts (however Logan did miss 3 games) last year. Jernigan had 631 with Baltimore last year. I think he would need to see a similar snap count this year to reach his potential upside, I'm just not sure he'll get the volume?? The Eagles staff like Allen... I wonder if we see a similar platoon play-out again this year, limiting Timmy's upside. I'll be keeping a close eye on this during training camp... certainly some cheap value in DT premium scoring.

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Re: Timmy Jernigan to Philly... DT or DE?

Postby icemic » Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:02 pm

16 Team Dynasty Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1K, 2DT, 2DE, 3LB, 2CB, 2S .5 ppr
QB - Lawrence, Tua
RB - Henderson, Javonte Williams, Lindsay, Stevenson, Jaret Patterson
WR - McLaurin, Corey Davis, Michael Thomas, Terrace Marshall, Christian Kirk, Marquez Callaway, Quez Watkins, Tyrell Williams, Quintez Cephus, Mike Strachan
TE - Logan Thomas, OJ Howard, Granson, Tremble
DT - Oliver, Kinlaw
DE - Myles Garrett, JJ Watt, Jordan, Hendrickson, Paye
LB - Kendricks, Mosley, Simmons, Parsons, Holcomb, Okereke, Barnes, Barton, Mykal Walker
CB - Carlton Davis, Kenny Moore, Sneed
S - Poyer, Khari Willis, Dugger, Peppers


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